Devic's syndrome

NMF neil.fournier at sympatico.ca
Fri Feb 6 12:42:14 EST 2004


"Cluver-Bucy" syndrome, eh?

 To those people who aren't aware why this discussion is going on.  These
badgerings are basically steming from the fact that I question his ideas by
asking him to provide data and calculations to verify his hypothesis.
(Something that he feels that he has adequately provided.  But I feel has
not been provided)  So this is just a heated and immature discussion and  I
apologize for wasting everybody else's time on.  (this is will be my last
comment on this topic).

I can't see how I could take credit about Devic  syndrome, when it was
discovered about hundred years ago.  I never thought I was saying anything
all that novel about the subject.  I better make sure for the future that
when I comment that Devic syndrome is demyelinating, I better make sure to I
reference it. (Your an idiot.  Quite nit-picking.  For you to be sitting
there and making comments about referencing ideas is a complete hypocrisy.
I have never seen you reference anything!).

Most of the stuff brought up in these posts, especially the ones in
reference to neurological illness, are basically common knowledge in
neurology circles.  I am clinical neuroscientist.  That is what I study and
get paid to do.  I have never made a comment on something unless I have some
level of knowledge about the subject.  (When I don't know anything I state
it.  In this post everything I stated is extremely common knowledge that
most people even in their first year of medical school would know.  When I
wrote the post I had my old neurology binder near me and pulled it out to
make sure the points were valid and contained as much information.  This is
the not the area of my expertise and I firmly stated that in my post.  I
would definitely like to know whose ideas I am supposedly "ripping off" as
my own?).  I provided her with what I already knew about the subject, which
is a real basic understanding that I learnt years ago.  It is probably stuff
she already knew. (Seeing how she is probably reading up on the subject.  If
she wanted references or citations, she or anyone could easily ask and I
could dig up some old neurology books  or papers that talk about the
condition.  Other than that I am sure there are many websites on the
internet about this disorder)

Secondly, all the things I suggested about Kluver-Bucy syndrome are common
knowledge in the limbic system research circles. And if you actually read
the post you would have discovered that I brought up all the major
researchers involved with those discoveries (hence they were well
referenced.  If you want the original papers then ask for the citations). I
have pretty much read all of Heinrich Kluver's work and actually did one of
my "comps" on visual agnosia due to amygdalar lesions in monkeys.  I do
consider myself an expert in this area. If you want citations ask, don't
make accusations.  I never made any comment that it was me that dicovered
this. Generally when one brings up a discussion on Kluver-Bucy syndrome, one
is referencing Heinrich Kluver and Paul Bucy work.  Go back to the original
work before you make statements, especially in regards to topics you know
absolutely nothing about.




"k p Collins" <kpaulc@[----------]earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:TPKUb.12498$jH6.5713 at newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> "NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:iiIUb.25716$9U5.1287455 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> > That's an extremely pointless comment. I thought you had a lot more
> > integrity than that.  Actually when I wrote the post, I used some of the
> > information that I had in notes that I wrote when I took a
> > neuropsychological and neurological assessment course about 6 years ago.
> I
> > believe they were taken probably from Principles in Neurological
> Assessment
> > (if you are interested).
> >
> > One of my primary area of research involves investigating the
> histomorphic,
> > humoral, and behavioral consequences of brain injury (with
specialization
> in
> > temporal lobe and limbic epilepsy).  My training has been in clinical
> > neuroscience with a specialization in anatomy and physiology.  I never
> > claimed to be an expert on Devic Disease, hence my comment that I am not
> all
> > that familiar with this disorder. I also have no clinical experience
> > treating patients affected by this specific kind of demyelination.
> However,
> > I have read many books on demyelination in MS and most of my knowledge
> stems
> > from the debate regarding the similarity and dissimilarity involving MS
> and
> > Devic Disease.  I have done previous work investigating the
> > immunosuppressive role of limbic seizures on demyelination (in the EAE
> model
> > of MS).  Get your facts straight next time you are going to question my
> > credentials.
>
> How you carry your 'credentials' speaks
> for itself.
>
> In neither of your commentaries did you
> Credit your sources. You took all the Credit
> for yourself.
>
> You mentioned "Kluver" and "Bucy", but
> how could you not, when the subject was
> "Cluver[sic]-Bucy Syndrome"?
>
> Do you want me to Analyze your prior
> posts?
>
> It's Broken between us.
>
> 'go away' [not from b.n. Just from me.]
>
> K. P. Collins
>
> > Secondly, I never claimed to come up with any of the concepts regarding
> > Kluver-Bucy syndrome. To do so would be extremely idiotic, especially in
> > light of the fact that my name is not Heinrich Kluver or Paul Bucy.
Read
> > some of the original works before you ignorantly post a message.
> >
> >
> >
> > "k p Collins" <kpaulc@[----------]earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:SpFUb.12079$jH6.3002 at newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > "NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:XgEUb.15434$bp1.650571 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > Dear Karla,
> > > >
> > > > I am not all that familiar with this disorder but I'll tell you what
I
> > do
> > > > know.
> > > > [...]
> > >
> > > It's 'hilarious'. You do an internet search,
> > > rip-off the work of others, and 'pose' as
> > > if it's 'yours' - same as you did with "Kluver-
> > > Bucy Syndrome".
> > >
> > > 'go away'!
> > >
> > > K. P. Collins
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > "k p Collins" <kpaulc@[----------]earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:SpFUb.12079$jH6.3002 at newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > "NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:XgEUb.15434$bp1.650571 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > Dear Karla,
> > > >
> > > > I am not all that familiar with this disorder but I'll tell you what
I
> > do
> > > > know.
> > > > [...]
> > >
> > > It's 'hilarious'. You do an internet search,
> > > rip-off the work of others, and 'pose' as
> > > if it's 'yours' - same as you did with "Kluver-
> > > Bucy Syndrome".
> > >
> > > 'go away'!
> > >
> > > K. P. Collins
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>





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