Devic's syndrome

Mark Zarella zarellam at twcnyremove.rr.comspam
Sun Feb 8 13:01:40 EST 2004


I thought you were talking to yourself.  I've long since killfiled that
nutcase, and I suspect the rest of the regulars in this newsgroup have also
done the same.

"NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4OQUb.16513$bp1.715453 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> "Cluver-Bucy" syndrome, eh?
>
>  To those people who aren't aware why this discussion is going on.  These
> badgerings are basically steming from the fact that I question his ideas
by
> asking him to provide data and calculations to verify his hypothesis.
> (Something that he feels that he has adequately provided.  But I feel has
> not been provided)  So this is just a heated and immature discussion and
I
> apologize for wasting everybody else's time on.  (this is will be my last
> comment on this topic).
>
> I can't see how I could take credit about Devic  syndrome, when it was
> discovered about hundred years ago.  I never thought I was saying anything
> all that novel about the subject.  I better make sure for the future that
> when I comment that Devic syndrome is demyelinating, I better make sure to
I
> reference it. (Your an idiot.  Quite nit-picking.  For you to be sitting
> there and making comments about referencing ideas is a complete hypocrisy.
> I have never seen you reference anything!).
>
> Most of the stuff brought up in these posts, especially the ones in
> reference to neurological illness, are basically common knowledge in
> neurology circles.  I am clinical neuroscientist.  That is what I study
and
> get paid to do.  I have never made a comment on something unless I have
some
> level of knowledge about the subject.  (When I don't know anything I state
> it.  In this post everything I stated is extremely common knowledge that
> most people even in their first year of medical school would know.  When I
> wrote the post I had my old neurology binder near me and pulled it out to
> make sure the points were valid and contained as much information.  This
is
> the not the area of my expertise and I firmly stated that in my post.  I
> would definitely like to know whose ideas I am supposedly "ripping off" as
> my own?).  I provided her with what I already knew about the subject,
which
> is a real basic understanding that I learnt years ago.  It is probably
stuff
> she already knew. (Seeing how she is probably reading up on the subject.
If
> she wanted references or citations, she or anyone could easily ask and I
> could dig up some old neurology books  or papers that talk about the
> condition.  Other than that I am sure there are many websites on the
> internet about this disorder)
>
> Secondly, all the things I suggested about Kluver-Bucy syndrome are common
> knowledge in the limbic system research circles. And if you actually read
> the post you would have discovered that I brought up all the major
> researchers involved with those discoveries (hence they were well
> referenced.  If you want the original papers then ask for the citations).
I
> have pretty much read all of Heinrich Kluver's work and actually did one
of
> my "comps" on visual agnosia due to amygdalar lesions in monkeys.  I do
> consider myself an expert in this area. If you want citations ask, don't
> make accusations.  I never made any comment that it was me that dicovered
> this. Generally when one brings up a discussion on Kluver-Bucy syndrome,
one
> is referencing Heinrich Kluver and Paul Bucy work.  Go back to the
original
> work before you make statements, especially in regards to topics you know
> absolutely nothing about.
>
>
>
>
> "k p Collins" <kpaulc@[----------]earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:TPKUb.12498$jH6.5713 at newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > "NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:iiIUb.25716$9U5.1287455 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > That's an extremely pointless comment. I thought you had a lot more
> > > integrity than that.  Actually when I wrote the post, I used some of
the
> > > information that I had in notes that I wrote when I took a
> > > neuropsychological and neurological assessment course about 6 years
ago.
> > I
> > > believe they were taken probably from Principles in Neurological
> > Assessment
> > > (if you are interested).
> > >
> > > One of my primary area of research involves investigating the
> > histomorphic,
> > > humoral, and behavioral consequences of brain injury (with
> specialization
> > in
> > > temporal lobe and limbic epilepsy).  My training has been in clinical
> > > neuroscience with a specialization in anatomy and physiology.  I never
> > > claimed to be an expert on Devic Disease, hence my comment that I am
not
> > all
> > > that familiar with this disorder. I also have no clinical experience
> > > treating patients affected by this specific kind of demyelination.
> > However,
> > > I have read many books on demyelination in MS and most of my knowledge
> > stems
> > > from the debate regarding the similarity and dissimilarity involving
MS
> > and
> > > Devic Disease.  I have done previous work investigating the
> > > immunosuppressive role of limbic seizures on demyelination (in the EAE
> > model
> > > of MS).  Get your facts straight next time you are going to question
my
> > > credentials.
> >
> > How you carry your 'credentials' speaks
> > for itself.
> >
> > In neither of your commentaries did you
> > Credit your sources. You took all the Credit
> > for yourself.
> >
> > You mentioned "Kluver" and "Bucy", but
> > how could you not, when the subject was
> > "Cluver[sic]-Bucy Syndrome"?
> >
> > Do you want me to Analyze your prior
> > posts?
> >
> > It's Broken between us.
> >
> > 'go away' [not from b.n. Just from me.]
> >
> > K. P. Collins
> >
> > > Secondly, I never claimed to come up with any of the concepts
regarding
> > > Kluver-Bucy syndrome. To do so would be extremely idiotic, especially
in
> > > light of the fact that my name is not Heinrich Kluver or Paul Bucy.
> Read
> > > some of the original works before you ignorantly post a message.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "k p Collins" <kpaulc@[----------]earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:SpFUb.12079$jH6.3002 at newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > "NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:XgEUb.15434$bp1.650571 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > > Dear Karla,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not all that familiar with this disorder but I'll tell you
what
> I
> > > do
> > > > > know.
> > > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > It's 'hilarious'. You do an internet search,
> > > > rip-off the work of others, and 'pose' as
> > > > if it's 'yours' - same as you did with "Kluver-
> > > > Bucy Syndrome".
> > > >
> > > > 'go away'!
> > > >
> > > > K. P. Collins
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "k p Collins" <kpaulc@[----------]earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:SpFUb.12079$jH6.3002 at newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > "NMF" <neil.fournier at sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:XgEUb.15434$bp1.650571 at news20.bellglobal.com...
> > > > > Dear Karla,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not all that familiar with this disorder but I'll tell you
what
> I
> > > do
> > > > > know.
> > > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > It's 'hilarious'. You do an internet search,
> > > > rip-off the work of others, and 'pose' as
> > > > if it's 'yours' - same as you did with "Kluver-
> > > > Bucy Syndrome".
> > > >
> > > > 'go away'!
> > > >
> > > > K. P. Collins
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>





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