Bennett and Hacker: Village Idiots or Philosophers?
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Mon Feb 16 11:37:29 EST 2004
"David Longley" <David at longley.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <4030e04a.30726781 at netnews.att.net>, Lester Zick
> <lesterDELzick at worldnet.att.net> writes
> >Hi Eray -
> >I certainly agree with what you note here. The problem with arguments,
> >rationales, etc. is that they are only about as useful as people's
> >comprehension of them. I think they are conclusive once understood but
> >Neil considers them totally or mostly word salad and you seem to be
> >somewhere in the middle.
> >But I'll say one thing for the arguments, they're brief. So they admit
> >of evaluation in pretty straightforward terms. The only complicated
> >rationale is for S "differences between differences" resolution of
> >Russell's paradox and I'll be posting more on that in a few days.
> >The unfortunate thing is they don't have any obvious direct relevance
> >to immediate issues in ai as the subject stands. The only significance
> >I can think of at the moment is that these ideas indicate that the
> >idea of actual sentience in ai is really something more than programs
> >and whatever one chooses to project as ai in turing terms.
> >This latter is more on the order of robotics or in cognitive arenas
> >what I refer to as artificial neural turologies - ants. Which I find
> >nothing wrong with because it will probably prove more useful than
> >actual models of general cognition. However as Jim Bromer points out
> >in his Re: Reasoning and AI yesterday, it has been the case that
> >designers and programmers have thought they were more or less
> >discovering and writing equations of cognitive behavior and sentience
> >with their programs and that has definitely not proven to be the case.
> >So I consider that it would behoove ai architects to understand why so
> >they can reconsider whether they are aiming at actual cognition or
> >just robotics and the difference between the two.
> Go and find out about *discrimination learning*.
Go and find out something about: computer science, neuroscience, cognitive
> David Longley
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