DC lesion? - a lesson?
k p Collins
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Thu Feb 19 03:05:03 EST 2004
"NMF" <nm_fournier at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Very interesting discussion Peter. I enjoyed it very much. I am actually
> going to purchase the book you referenced by Jane F. Mackworth.
> The comment about Jesus as a drug addict. Hmm it's possible. Actually
> there is an old book (don't remember the author's name though) about the
> controversy of what may or may not have been on the sponge when placed to
> Christ's lips (the report is that it was a bitter substance). Considering
> that Jesus (if he really existed) most likely was aware and probably even
> spent time with the Essenes (Yahad) ( which were a group that had intimate
> ties with India and familiarity with a variety of psychotropic compounds
> (such as Rauwolfia serpentine; also called reserpine....which is a bitter
> substance) that were routinely employed in ceremonial practice) it may be
My view is that Jesus refused the drug-laced
'wine' because He refused to allow His Sacri-
fice to be less-than-Perfect [which is what
accepting drugs would've made it].
And the fact that He did, completely-
undermines Peter's 'suggestion', doesn't
In a Ravaged 'state', everything else is
commensurately-weakened, so a 'drug-
addict' would've tended, strongly, to
welcomed the artificial 'solace' with
which he was familiar, not Refuse it.
The "Essenes" thing is nothing but routine
Slander through which folks who 'move
away from' Jesus attempt to 'justify' the
directionality in which they 'move'.
The three 'years' of Jesus' Teaching are
thoroughly accounted-for in the facts of
the behavioral Transfomations that oc-
curred in The Apostles. If Jesus were not
devoted to being with-them, their "biological
mass" and "behavioral inertia" would not
have been such that they all [except Judas]
were Faithful even in the face of their own
horrible Deaths [except for John, who was
Faithful, but died of natural causes]. And
Judas, realizing his Error, took his own
If Jesus had been 'dallying', away from His
Disciples, they'd not've found the stuff of
what was, obviously, their Faith in Jesus.
So the "Essenes" stuff doesn't compute
[except in a completely-arbitrary 'time'-
series way - sort of like saying that, "be-
cause I am alive at the same 'time' that
others, here in b.n, are alive, we know
one another". Fact is, we don't, and
probably never will.]
k. p. collins
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