To Peter Re: DC lesion? - a lesson?

k p Collins kpaulc at [----------]earthlink.net
Fri Feb 20 03:10:31 EST 2004


Hi Peter,

[This one will be 'Difficult'.]

"Peter F." <effectivespamblock at ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:eCgZb.120$3X5.3333 at nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Hi NMF,
>
> About Machworth and similar kinds of definitions of Habituation: IMO they
> are euphemizing rather than unifying.
>
> It can be explained (excEPTionally tightly and powerfully) why this is
> normally so.
>
> In short, our brains (or "Actention[-modular] Selection Systems") are the
> result of a now not so strange 'strange attractor' in phylogeny of fauna
> towards what can be acronym-named as "AEVASIVE functionality".
>
>
> Near the base of the philosophical pylon that prop up this explanation, is
a
> schematic depiction of evolution from the vantage-point of only three (but
> accEPTably defined;) categories of selective/evolutionary pressures -
either
> 'instrinsic' or environmental such - being effective in relation the lives
> of individuals of populations in the phylogeny of fauna.
>
> Two of these categories (of the Evolutionary Pressure Totality) are
> topmost - namely "Adversity type selective/evolutionary pressures"
(ATSEP),
> and "Opportunity type selective/evolutionary pressures" (OTSEP), and the
> remaining one - SHITS (amplified by CURSES type memories) -  is a "sub"
> category of ATSEP.
>
> Re SHITS:
> As an alternative to describing the inhibitory neural functions at the
core
> of
> neurotic defences they can be described not entirely metaphorically, as:
> "selective (alt. synaptic)
> Hibernation". [Nothing would be gained by using the phrase "selective
> Habtuation", for two reasons:
> 1. Habituations has a traditional co-notation as being mainly a
cancellation
> of responses to repeated *insignificant* stimulation (ditto or aspects of
a
> situations).

Looking back through the History of
Science discloses that this doesn't work,
Peter.

For a thousand 'years', Ptoemaic Astronomy
was accepted 'because' 'habituated' to that
which is actually Significant.

> 2. Habituation already implies selectivity (of function and effect).

Yeah, but it's only 'selectivity' that's
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization
with respect the neural activation that
has already occurred within nervous
systems - which means that the 'sel-
ectivity' is 'just' 'moving toward' and
'moving away from' relative TD E/I,
=not= this or that which is in the extern-
al experiential environment.

Big-Difference.

=HUGE=.

The result of such 'selectivity' is what
has been Humanity's self-Ravaging.

Absent comprehension of how and
why nervous systems process inform-
ation via 'blindly'-automated TD E/I-
minimization, folks 'move toward'
that which has merely become
'blindly'-and-automatically TD E/I-
minimizad, with affect aligned with
respect to =TD E/I=, =not= with
respect to that which is of physically-
real Significance.

It's why, absent comprehension of
the way that nervous systems pro-
cess information via 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization, 'hab-
ituation' is =nothing=.

It is, in fact, the 'religiosity' with
respect to which you've 'shaken
your finger at me' :-]

And it's why I'm 'fighting' so De-
terminedly to give folks NDT's
stuff.

Folks are not Truly-Alive unless
they escape the 'blind'-automation
of haphazard TD E/I-minimization
[of haphazard 'habituation'].

Instead of being Truly-Alive, folks
exist as unthinking-automatons,
which is why folks Ravage one an-
other, in efforts to perpetuate that
which is, in their experience, cor-
related with TD E/I-minimization,
instead of 'moving toward' physic-
ally-real Significance.

When he 'moved toward' heliocen-
tricism, Bruno 'moved toward' phys-
ically-real Significance, only to be
burned at the stake by 'colleagues'
who 'moved toward' 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization. [Bruno
was a Monk.]

Galileo was condemned to house-
arrest, by the 'same' 'moving toward'
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimiz-
ation, because he 'moved toward'
physically-real Significance.

Jesus was Crucified because He
'moved toward' physically-real Sig-
nificance =with respect to= the
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimiz-
ation, by folks who 'moved toward'
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimiz-
ation, not physically-real Significance.

There's =always= been the same
=Evil= inherent - the 'sin' of attributing
greatest-'significance', not to physical
reality, but to 'blindly'-automated
TD E/I-minimization = not to physical
reality, but to experientially-determined
'self' that's oblivious to the fact that it
is merely experientially-determined.

Folks Ravage one another because
they 'blindly'-and-automatically elevate
their 'selves' to the status of 'god' -
elevate that which is merely their experi-
ential happenstance to 'being the signif-
icant stuff', when all it is is 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization.

> The (by me bet on) semantic strenght of the phrase "selective Hibernation"
> is given by that "selective" can refer to a precisely neurologically
> localized (even synapse specific) functional focus; and that Hibernation
can
> thereby (using the prefix "selective") even easily be associated with a
> lowering of **key actention focusing** neurons' rate of firing (hence
their
> metabolic rate) down to a
> "selective unconsciousness" causing - so not to be understood as narrowly
as
> just selectively awareness precluding, or selective awareness causing -
> 'value'.

Yes.

action, knowing how to 'move' =regard-
less= of TD E/I-minimization.

'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization,
is not actually "selective" =unless= 'blindly'-
automated TD E/I-minimization is, first,
understood.

Which is why I 'fight' so Hard to give
folks Understanding with respect to
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization.

I look around, and 'all' I see are folks
forsaking Being-Truly-Alive, be-sole-
cause they do not, yet, comprehend
how they 'blindly'-and-automatically
'move toward' 'blindly'-automated
TD E/I-minimization.

You See it, Don't you, Peter?

And it's all Very-Serious, because
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization
burns folks, who 'move away from'
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization,
at the stake, subjects them to 'house arrest',
and Crucifies them.

Which Discloses the Baseness of 'blindly'-
automated 'moving toward' 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization, doesn't it?

Yup.

But. be-cause of "behavioral inertia" that
derives in "biological mass" [AoK, Ap5],
one cannot just 'snap one's fingers' and
'poof!' folks into 'moving away from'
'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization.

One must give folks experience that, ever
so gently, "inverts" [AoK, Ap4] folks'
Beings with respect to 'blindly'-automated
TD E/I-minimization.

All the while, knowing that 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization does burn folks,
who 'move away from' 'blindly'-automated
TD E/I-minimization, at the stake, subjects
them to 'house arrest', and Crucifies them.

So, one procedes Gently, passing back
and forth, slowly giving the stuff of under-
standing, little-by-little, reiteratively.

> Hence the *not quite metaphorical*, and far from inEPT, association
between
> the traditional meaning of hibernation (and aestivation) and the more or
> less selective "freezing' or metabolic-rate-lowering effect of slowly as
> well as (and *even more common than*) rapidly traumatic life-situational
> adversity. I have concEPTualized any such adversity as SHITS (which is
short
> for "selective Hibernation imploring type situations").

There's =no= "selection" possible
until "biological mass" with respect to
how, and why, nervous systems
process information via 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization is incorp-
orated - literally embodied - within
nervous systems.

Understanding of 'blindly''-automated
TD E/I-minimization is =the= Prerequisite
of the Possibility of "selection" - of Free
Will.

The Gift is Great, but the 'Lifting' is Heavy.

> Re AEVASIVE:
>
> The statement that AEVASIVE stands for was pieced-together with playful
> philosophical pragmatism.
>
> (The following is largely lazily copied from a previous post of mine.)
>
> AEVASIVE might appear (after a shallow interpretation of 'its surface') to
> be a glib acronym; However, if properly understood it is in no way
trivially
> meaningful.
>
> =========
> There is not the time to try to explain AEVASIVE other than to mentioning
> that with its SEPTIC content, hence also its substantiality (including a
> deliberately
> Tolerance Principled looseness) this acronym-concEPT does with pragmatic
> approximativeness stand for:
>
> Ambi-advantageously
>
> [expression made up specifically to provide a strongly Explanatory
> Philosophical Traction with specific reference to the frequent
> phylogenetic/life-situational simultaneity of selection/evolutionary
> pressures in the form "SHITS come CURSES type Adversity type pressures",
on
> one hand, and what I call "Opportunity type pressures", on the other hand.
> The 'genophenotying effect' of the realtime (real-life) overlap between
> these types
> of pressures" Opportunities and SHITS (amplified by being a cause of
CURSES)
> can be seen to be reflected in correspondingly "ambi-advantageously
> adaptive" animal functions and traits - the by far most characteristic of
> which are to be found in the ways we
> humans function and behave]

"ambi-advantageously adaptive"

'move away from' being 'burned at the
stake', while 'moving toward' an end
to 'stake-burnings' ...?

> Evolved
> (more than acceptably provides an E)
>
> Veritable
> (or Vested, and in some sense 'Vitally Vectorial')
>
> Actention Selection - OR System
> (either S-word can be conveniently subtracted - no time to include the my
> metaphorical interpretation of what the ASS is and does;)
>
> Incorporating
> (obviously amongst much else - but in a central, widely known instructive
> role)
>
> Various
> (provides a valuable V ;)
>
> Endoopiates
> (only since the word "opioids" doesn't start with an
> acronym-building E)
> ========

In nervous system function, 'reward'
is =only= a servo mechanism, =not=,
itself, "the goal". [It doesn't do to, through
the ingestion of psychoactive substances,
render a nervous system something other
than a nervous system, and then say, "See?
This stuff is all that nervous systems are
concerned with." The thing that's 'concerned'
only with the psychoactive substances is no
longer a "nervous system", but some arti-
ficially 'engineered' hybrid-system, that
'functions' in a way that commensurately
'moves away from' what "nervous systems"
innately do with respect to non-drug-hybridized
experience.]

> As an alternative to describing neurotic defenses or neurotic aspects of
> personalities (largely unconscious suppression or
> repression and rerouted co-motivation by) as being most basically
> inhibitory, the inhibitory mechanism(s?) at the core of
> neurotic defences (also IMO, "neurotic defences" are better understood -
and
> expressed with a single much more broad, balanced, and explicitly profound
> term - as "AEVASIVE
> characteristics")
>
> BTW:
> I feel rather comfortable contemplating our ASS as a partly parallel
partly
> overlapping and partly hierarchical stack and bundle of neurons (not
> discounting the gifts of glia) or modular circuits (encompassing anything
> from the sensory input end to the motor output end of our neurology), each
> aspiring (or actually and regularly) producing each performing or paying
> specific focuses of actention performing cheered-on or booed by current
> environmental input weighted most basically by phylogenetic situations but
> also by situations occurred previously during the individual's life-time
and
> even by experiences environmental histone encoded factors infuencing an
> individual's parents prior to the individual's conception.
>
>  just before the conditioning (alteration of individual neurons'
> physioanatomy) caused no longer current and
> "NMF" <nm_fournier at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:SKSYb.7016$Cd6.571786 at news20.bellglobal.com...

It's all 'just' been absence-of-understanding
with respect to how and why nervous sys-
tems process information via 'blindly'-auto-
mated TD E/I-minimization.

Give this understanding, and, to the degree
that it is incorporated as "biological mass"
within nervous systems, those nervous sys-
tems are Enabled to 'move toward' Truth,
rather than being, 'blindly'-and-automatically,
Coersed, by 'blindly'-automated TD E/I-mini-
mization, to 'blindly'-and-automatically 'move
toward' 'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimiza-
tion.

'blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization is
"the beast" - that which Ravages, that in
which "Evil" is embodied.

"If ['blindly'-automated TD E/I-minimization]
is the problem, cut it out."

Hoping neither of us gets 'burned at the stake,
house arrested, of Crucified [well, tow out of
three ain't bad :-],

Cheers, Old Friend,

ken [k. p. collins]





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