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John H. johnhas at tpg.com.au
Thu Feb 26 00:08:10 EST 2004


You're opening a Pandora's box here and you can rest assured your post
will make Ken very angry. As an off an on visitor to this ng for many
years I have seen this whole process unfold so many times and it has
become very tedious.

I have formerly expressed my concerns about Ken and for that you once
called me an idiot. You insulted me on a number of occasions but not
of late. I just kept ignoring your snide remarks. Extinction. You've
treated me with respect thereafter. I think I know what Ken's problem
is and while I have hinted at the same occasionally I'm just so tired
of the way he hijacks this ng; especially since lately some bods like
yourself have made the ng much more entertaining and informative. Like
many others I have tried to encourage Ken to seek some help but he is
so entrenched in this thinking that from this distance the effort
appears futile. I do not think undertaking personality analysis is
going to change that.

So now we see more and more posts directed towards Ken, this is best
described as fueling the fire. Don't do it. Just ignore his rants
about his personal life and probably better just to killfile him
entirely, as I have done in the past.

At present Ken is damaging this ng and if past experience is any guide
the continuing habit of fueling the fire will drive away many people.
For a layman like myself, with no social context to discuss my ideas,
ngs like this are very important to me. I need the input of people
like yourself and lately some very good neurobods have come on the
scene. I don't want to lose that chance for interaction. I may not
post much but I can assure there are several posters here I always
read (Sizemore, Blizor, NMF, Dynasoar, Matt jones, ...) because I need
educating. That is now being threatened and I'll fight to the death to
preserve this avenue or learning. It's fine for you professionals, you
can walk down the hall and have a chat, layman like myself rely
heavily on internet forums to satisfy our curiousity and find some
answers. For me now this is very important because I've worked hard
enough over the years to be in a position where I must prepare a
presentation at an upcoming conference in my hometown, not bad for a
layman who treats this more as a hobby than an obsession but it would
not have been possible except for forums like these which allow me to
test my ideas. Thanks to NMF in that regard, he has been looking at a
similiar to problem that I have focussed on.

If people here really want to help Ken then such requests as yours
should be made in private email. Everyone, let it go.

John H. 

"Glen M. Sizemore" <gmsizemore2 at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<0e03c9604d71202d69e461053abc307f at news.teranews.com>...
> Your descent into what is traditionally called "madness," and its acutely
> public nature (i.e., you post on the freakin' internet) have become, I
> admit, mildly fascinating to me. Before VALIS starts beaming "information"
> into your brain right through your aluminum foil hat, Ken, drop the
> "science" for a moment and tell me a few things. How old are you? Where were
> you born? Where did you go to school? What is the extent of your formal
> education? Did you ever have a girlfriend? Do sports? Have friends? Did you
> have any siblings? Do they keep contact with you? Where do you live now? I'm
> serious, Ken. Normally I wouldn't suggest someone post this sort of stuff on
> an NG like this but, let's face it, unless you are institutionalized, you
> will continue to enlighten us ad nauseam, and I have become truly interested
> in the answers to the questions I posed.

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