neuroscience training? - CORRECTION

ken kpaulc at [remove]earthlink.net
Mon Mar 15 04:43:46 EST 2004


CORRECTION, below.

"ken" <kpaulc at earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Teb5c.21843$%06.10794 at newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Hi John,
>
> "John H." <johnh at faraway.> wrote in message
> news:4055251d at dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > [...]
> [...]
> Having cleaned a stable, here and there, I wasn't
> oblivious to the general quality-of-air 'problem' :-]
>
> First, my view is that =Everyone= can 'move toward'
> Truth in ways that foster ~"being sure your feet are in
> the right place, and, then standing firm" [Abraham Lincoln]
>
> This's a big part of what I'm working to enable folks
> to see.
>
> My 'standing-on-what-I-post' is just more of
> what I always try to do - Honor Truth, all the
> more Determinedly, when it's Hard to do so.
>
> Understanding that it's all 'just' TD E/I-minimiza-
> tion, and having a 'feel' for the "amygdalar-priming"
> threshold, makes it endurable, if not 'Pleasant'.
>
> The 'middle' moves, to the degree that folks ex-
> perience TD E/I(down) with respect to it.
>
> But, if it's Truth, it's always 'Safe' to 'stand-on-it'.
>
> > Sinking in shit:
>
> You're 'just' Honorably-'Modest', and you've never
> come close to that, John, and you won't while there's
> Life in-me.
>
> > No-one here is addressing my specific area of interest:
> > progressive neurodegeneration arising from TBI and
> > transient deficits relating to the same. Hence I'm wasting
> > my time here, hence the more I post the more I'm
> > sinking in shit.
>
> Well, let's see... the 'progressiveness' usually stems from
> there being a TD E/I(up) contition that's 'not' TD E/I-
> minimizable, be-cause there's something 'missing' in the
> 'normal' neural Topology.
>
> But this isn't, necessarily, a 'show-stopper', because pre-
> frontal cortex can build "prefrontal constellations" with re-
> spect to anything, and everything, that occurs elsewhere
> within the nervous system.
>
> If the "constraint" Therapy results are going as you de-
> scribed them, for instance, it's a virtual-certainty that
> there's a PF "constellation" being developed, and which
> exerts action [as is discussed in AoK, Ap7] that's in-
> volved in the Therapy's going-well.
>
> The =same= can be done in-general.
>
> Why it, routinely, isn't so done is because PFCx's gov-
> ernance of the "meta-phases" of the brain's information-
> processing have not been, generally, comprehended.
>
> Working with them - working in a way that 'nourishes'
> [enhances] PFCx function requires 'strange' [counter-
> intuitive] Choices to be made. One has to, literally,
> attend in a ["on-the-'outside'-looking-in"] way,

CORRECTION, immediately-above.

[The lower-'level' brain is 'environment' for PFCx's
"brain within the brain".] kpc

> and, to do
> this, requires, first, coming up-to-speed in NDT [and
> 'moving away from' Nay-sayers who do not, yet, com-
> prehend NDT - which is most of what makes working
> PFCx dynamics 'hard' - the necessary 'strangeness'
> always occurs in ways that elevate TD E/I within virtually
> all of the non-NDT-understanding nervous systems that
> are encountered, and those nervous systems 'take-offense',
> and actualize behaviors that impose TD E/U(up) back
> upon the nervous system that's doing the PFCx Work -
> and everything tends to 'break-down' right-there, be-
> cause the sought-after PFCx work is diverted into
> dealing with the externally-imposed TD E/I(up) that
> nervous systems reacting to the necessary 'strangeness'
> induce-back - which, I'm sure all those working in
> Constraint Therapy will immediately Recognize, and
> understand.]
>
> It's some of NDT's most-promising stuff, but I've not,
> yet, even been able to get into it - it remains too 'strange' -
> folks do not, yet, have a good-enough general-handle on
> NDT's stuff, and, when I try to reach-further into NDT's
> stuff, all that happens is that I get 'beat-up' by the folks
> whose nervous systems are experiencing too-much TD
> E/I. It's, inherently, the essence of 'psychological' "double-
> binds".
>
> So I can go-forward only a little-bit at a 'time', keeping
> everything 'below' folks "amygdalar-priming thresholds",
> which is 'hard' because the thresholds vary with individuals.
>
> But, if I can hold-on, a while longer, you'll receive some
> Truly-Wonderful stuff with respect to your area of interest.
>
> [And, if folks'll meet with me, in-person, the 'delay' can be
> minimized [presuming that folks who'd so meet with me,
> would, in fact, be 'geared-up' to understand, and not want-
> to 'prove' that they can't understand.]
>
> Meanwhile, I have been working, ever-so-gently, toward
> this direction.
>
> > Fair enough, I'd never make a living as a comedian.
> >
> > John
>
> I've been wanting to tell you, BTW, I wouldn't express
> my Gratitude to you [in a recent post] by trying to 'kiss'
> you.
>
> I'd probably wait until we were along, get down on my
> knees, bow my head, and say, "Thanks" - making sure
> you understood what I was "Thanking you" for.
>
> Why?
>
> Go back and reread what's above. It's a case of the 'strange-
> ness' in-point, and I do stuff, like this, routinely, because
> I understand how it works to 'present a Gift' that Endures,
> and Grows, to the benefit of the one who receives the Gift.
>
> But, see? It's all a bit 'strange', which is why, as above, it's
> 'hard'-to-do, and Rare within Human interactive dynamics.
>
> Me? I'm Used-to-it :-]
>
> [My health - it's my Heart. Ironic, ain't it? [I have no
> Medical Insurance, so I can't get treated. It's my own
> Fault - 'smoking' too-much to 'turn-off' the 'aloneness'.
> So, I'm in a Race. Seems I've always been Racing some-
> thing. My Mom's Death. My Dad's Death. Now, my
> Death. I've yet to Win any these 'races'. But, why Waste
> what I've left? So, I'm 'pushing', a bit. That's all.]]
>
> Cheers, John, ken [k. p. collins]
>
> > "ken" <kpaulc at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:0MP4c.19579$%06.12057 at newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > "John H." <johnh at faraway.> wrote in message
> > > news:40528735 at dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > >
> > > > "ken" <kpaulc at earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:qzk4c.34781$aT1.16057 at newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > > > I stand on what I posted.
> > > > >
> > > > > K. P. Collins
> > > >
> > > > Now come on Ken, if the above be true
> > > > you must be suffering hypoxia by now.
> > > > Fortunately I don't stand on what I post,
> > > > otherwise I'd be sinking in shit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John H.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't know what you're talking about, here, John.
> > >
> > > I've explained that, unless I RETRACT, CORRECT,
> > > or Clarify, I stand on what I've posted.
> > >
> > > I also Guard Free Will :-]
> > >
> > > But I don't know what you're talking about, above.
> > >
> > > ken [k. p. collins]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>





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