reporting on the human radiation experiments

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      EILEEN WELSOME: The sad part about Elmer's story is that nobody
      believed him. He went to his doctor and told him, "I think I've
      been injected with something." His doctor diagnosed him as a
      paranoid schizophrenic at the same time that he was conversing with
      the atomic energy scientists in Argon National Lab to provide them
      with tissue samples.


Plutonium Files: How the U.S. Secretly Fed Radioactivity to Thousands
of Americans
Wednesday, May 5th, 2004

Denver-based journalist Eileen Welsome reveals how as a reporter for
the tiny Albuquerque Tribune (circulation 35,000) she uncovered one of
the country's great Cold War secrets: the U.S. government had
knowingly exposed thousands of human Guinea pigs with radiation
poisoning including 18 Americans who had plutonium injected directly
into their bloodstream. [includes rush transcript] In a Massachusetts
school, seventy-three disabled children were spoon-fed oatmeal laced
with radioactive isotopes.

In an upstate New York hospital, an eighteen-year-old woman believing
she was being treated for a pituitary disorder, was injected with

At a Tennessee clinic, 829 pregnant women were served "vitamin
cocktails" containing radioactive iron, as part of their regular

No these are not acts of terrorism by common criminals.

These are just some of the secret human radiation experiments that the
U.S. government conducted on unsuspecting Americans for decades as
part of its atom bomb program.

In a gruesome plot that spanned 30 years, doctors and scientists
working with the US atomic weapons program, exposed thousands of
unwilling and unknowing Americans to radiation poisoning to study its

For years, the experiments by the U.S. government and the identities
of their human guinea pigs were covered up.

Then after a six-year investigation, investigative reporter Eileen
Welsome uncovered the names of 18 people who were injected with
plutonium in the 1940s without their knowledge by federal government
scientists. In 1993, she published her finding in The Albuquerque
Tribune and later received the Pulitzer Prize for her work.

Another six years later, Welsome published "The Plutonium Files:
America's Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold War." The book gives
a detailed account of the unspeakable scientific trials conducted by
the U.S. government that reduced thousands of American men, women, and
even children to nameless specimens.

     * Eileen Welsome, Pulitzer prize-winning reporter and author of
"The Plutonium Files: America's Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold



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AMY GOODMAN: After a six-year investigation, reporter Eileen Welsome
uncovered the identities of eighteen people injected with plutonium in
the 1940's without their knowledge by federal government
scientists. Eileen Welsome published her findings in a series in the
"Albuquerque Tribune" and received the Pulitzer Prize for her work. It
took another six years for her to complete her book called "The
Plutonium Files, America's Secret Medical Experiments in the Cold
War." She joins us now in Boulder, Colorado. Eileen Welsome, thanks
for joining us.

EILEEN WELSOME: Happy to be here. Thank you for having me.

AMY GOODMAN: Over the years we have spoken with you, but now that
we're on this tour and you live in Denver, this is a rare opportunity
to sit down and go through this story. First, how did you even get a
clue that this was going on?

EILEEN WELSOME: Amy, it started, as you mentioned earlier, I was a
reporter at the "Albuquerque Tribune" and I was doing some research on
an air force base there, and they were doing some cleanup work. I
noticed that in the document there were several radioactive animal
dumps on this air force base. So I was curious about what kind of
animals were in the dump and why were they radioactive? So I went over
to the air force base, Kirkland Air Force Base, to what was then
called the Air Force Special Weapons Laboratory. And they got out a
big stack of these dusty reports for me to read on these animal
studies. And so as I was thumbing through these reports, and it was
horrible because they were incubating beagles and watching them
develop cancers and how long they lived and charting the radiation
sickness. But as a reporter, there wasn't a story there for me. These
were old experiments and as gruesome as they were, it wasn't something
that a daily newspaper would be interested in. So it was about 5:00 on
Friday, I was eager to go home, but I felt like I had gone to this
trouble to get these documents and I had to make my time look good. So
I kept flipping through the reports. And my eye fell on a footnote and
the footnote mentioned something about 18 humans who had been injected
with plutonium. So I kind of reared back in my seat. I was just
shocked. Shocked to think that our government had injected 18 people
with plutonium. So I jotted down what I could from the citation and
the next day, which was a Saturday, I went to the university library
there and started hunting up reports about these scientists. So that
was the beginning of it and the reason I looked at the footnote, I
need to say this, is I had done a lot of financial reporting prior to
that time and I know that whenever a company wants to put in the bad
news, it's always in a footnote. So that taught me to look at

AMY GOODMAN: And so how did you begin to unravel this story?

EILEEN WELSOME: Well, here was my problem: I learned there were some
scientific reports in the literature, so I got those reports. I
started to cull everything I could. And I learned that there were 18
people that had been injected with plutonium, but they were known by
code numbers only. So the problem for me became how to find 18
Americans that had been injected with plutonium 30 or 40 years ago in
a country of millions. So I thought that -- I mean, it was an
impossible task, and so I started very crudely. I put these 18 code
numbers on yellow sheets of paper and then as I gathered documents, I
would write down what I knew about each of these 18 people. So I
eventually learned their ages, the date they were injected, what kind
of disease they had, if there was an autopsy or a biopsy conducted,
and when they died. And then it was just a matter of continuing to do
that and pick up clues.

AMY GOODMAN: Tell us about one of the 18 people.

EILEEN WELSOME: Well, I had gone off on a journalism fellowship and I
had been filing Freedom of Information Act requests with the federal
government. So I had a tiny folder on this experiment and when I came
back and looked -- I pulled out my folder and I had fresh eyes. And I
looked at this document again and these documents were redacted. In
other words, the names of the patients were whited out and so were the
names of the doctors. And my eye fell on this line, which said Doctor
so and so contacted the physician of Cal-3 in Italy, Texas. And what
leapt out at me were the words, Italy, Texas. By then, I knew a lot
about Cal-3. I knew he was an African American man who would have been
80 years old, who would have been -- who had his left leg amputated
three days after he was injected with plutonium. So given those few
clues and that this person might have lived in Italy, Texas, I was
determined to go there and knock on every door until I found this man.

AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to Pulitzer Prize winning reporter Eileen
Welsome. So tell us about your discovery, how you made contact.

EILEEN WELSOME: So I got out a map. I looked up Italy, Texas. It was
south of Dallas, about 60 miles. I called directory assistance, got
the number of Italy's City Hall, called them up, introduced myself,
described the person I was looking for and they said, "You're looking
for Elmer Allen, but he died a year ago. Would you like his wife's
number?" So I said, "Of course." And I wrote the number down and
within minutes I was talking to Mrs. Allen.

AMY GOODMAN: And what did you say?

EILEEN WELSOME: I was very circumspect because I didn't want to
frighten her and I didn't want to seem like a kook and I didn't want
to put words in her mouth. I wanted to know what she remembered. So I
simply said, you know, I had some documents that suggested that her
husband may have been involved in a government-funded study and I
would like to talk with her about it. And she asked me to talk to her
daughter, Elmerine Allen Whitfield. And I called her and she was very
quiet on the phone. As I reeled out my story, she said, "Ok, you can
come on." And so I flew to Italy, Texas, and we sat down at her
kitchen table and by the end of the interview, I knew and they knew
that I had found the first of these 18 people.

AMY GOODMAN: Elmer's story?

EILEEN WELSOME: Elmer's story.

AMY GOODMAN: What was Elmer's story, how did he end up in a hospital
being injected with plutonium?

EILEEN WELSOME: Elmer was a railroad porter. He and his wife were
living in the Bay Area in the mid 1940's. They had left Texas and gone
out there to start a better life. They had two young babies. Elmer
fell from the train in Chicago and damaged his leg, and that sort of
put him into the medical system. That was the beginning of his
participation in this experiment. And his leg did not heal and he kept
going back to the doctor. Somehow he found himself in this clinic at
U.C. San Francisco University of California Hospital in San Francisco,
and they selected him for this radiation experiment.

AMY GOODMAN: But he didn't know that?

EILEEN WELSOME: Oh, no, no, he absolutely did not know. He was told
that he had an osteosargenic sarcoma in his knee and they would have
to amputate in order to save him. There's some question about whether
he did or didn't have that cancer and I do not know the answer to
that. But three days before they amputated that leg, they injected him
in the calf, intramuscularly, with plutonium.

AMY GOODMAN: Didn't they -- he describe to his wife how they put a
target on his leg and they injected it in that?

EILEEN WELSOME: They eventually, with the consent of Mrs. Allen, I was
able to get Elmer's medical records from U.C. San Francisco and in
those medical records, the doctors talked about putting that target on
his calf prior to the injection.

AMY GOODMAN: Now, he never knew he was a subject in a U.S. government
experiment, but he suspected something, is that right?

EILEEN WELSOME: Yes. He told a good friend of his in Italy, Texas,
that the doctors kept flying in and out of his room practicing to be
doctors. And he told his friend, "They guinea-pigged me."

AMY GOODMAN: We interviewed Elmerine Allen a number of times and she
talked about how growing up her father would say that, and then when
she left for college, he said, watch out, "Don't let the
U.S. government guinea-pig you." And they always thought that Elmer
had some kind of, well, Elmer was kind of quirky, and he had this
delusion that the government experimented on him.

EILEEN WELSOME: The sad part about Elmer's story is that nobody
believed him. He went to his doctor and told him, "I think I've been
injected with something." His doctor diagnosed him as a paranoid
schizophrenic at the same time that he was conversing with the atomic
energy scientists in Argon National Lab to provide them with tissue

AMY GOODMAN: Wait, wait, his doctor said he was a paranoid
schizophrenic at the same time his doctor was providing his tissues to
the government scientists doing the experiment?

EILEEN WELSOME: That's correct. That's what the medical records
show. So Elmer was not only used in 1947 when he was injected with
this radioactive isotope, but he was continued to be used as a guinea
pig for the rest of his life.

AMY GOODMAN: Being sent for example to where, Rochester, New York?

EILEEN WELSOME: In the -- the experiment had two parts. In the 1970's,
the -- in the 1970's, a second generation of atomic scientists
rediscovered this experiment. So they wanted to dig up all the people
who were dead, who had been injected with plutonium, and they also
wanted to bring whoever survived them back into the lab for further
studies. And Elmer was one of those people.

AMY GOODMAN: Under what pretext since he didn't know, supposedly, that
he was a U.S. government guinea pig?

EILEEN WELSOME: They told Elmer, and this is all documented in the
medical records, that they knew he had a very serious cancer and they
wanted to know where he had lived so long.

AMY GOODMAN: Eileen Welsome is our guest. Pulitzer Prize winning
reporter, unearthed the names of 18 people injected with plutonium by
the U.S. government. When we come back, we're going to talk about who
these scientists were. We'll hear more of the stories. And then also
the group studies, the studies of hundreds of people who were given --
well, a couple dozen disabled children in Massachusetts fed
radioactive isotopes in their oatmeal, hundreds of pregnant women,
also, served so-called vitamin cocktails containing radioactive iron
-- how this all happened without anyone knowing about it until
recently. Stay with us.

AMY GOODMAN: This is Democracy Now! I'm Amy Goodman. As we continue
looking at "The Plutonium Files: America's Secret Medical Experiments
in the Cold War." We're broadcasting from Boulder, Colorado and our
guest is Pulitzer Prize winning reporter Eileen Welsome now lives in
Denver. The lessons -- let the lessons of history remind us that the
best safeguard for the future is an informed and active
citizenry. Let's continue on this journey of the people who were
injected, and the people who injected them. This certainly sounds a
little like the Tuskegee experiments, but tell us, who ran this

EILEEN WELSOME: The program sounded in the Manhattan Project, the
project to build the atomic bomb in the early 1940's. Side by side
with the physicists worked a group of doctors who were interested in
finding out how to protect their own workers in the Weapons
Complex. And also trying to figure out what these new radio isotopes
did in the human body. So basically, the beginning was the fathers of
the bomb project, the medical doctors and scientists that were the
tier below the Nobel Laureates, below the Oppenheimers and so on.

AMY GOODMAN: Did they know this was happening?

EILEEN WELSOME: Certainly the records indicate that Oppenheimer
approved the injections of these patients with Plutonium, because Los
Alamos was fighting a severe contamination problem and the scientists
working in those laboratories were concerned about their own health.

AMY GOODMAN: Didn't Oppenheimer come from Berkeley, and you had Elmer
who was injected in California?

EILEEN WELSOME: That's correct. There was a large component of the
atomic bomb project in the Bay area.

AMY GOODMAN: Conducted where?

EILEEN WELSOME: At the University of California at Berkeley and also
at the university of California San Francisco.

AMY GOODMAN: So we're talking about a nexus of university, military,
working together?

EILEEN WELSOME: That's exactly right. During the Manhattan Project, it
was a very strange hybrid animal where you had people that were in the
military working for the military, and you had people that were
getting paid by universities.

AMY GOODMAN: The robbing of graves?

EILEEN WELSOME: That occurred -- well, I don't know if I would quite
put it so strongly as that, but they did exhume bodies.

AMY GOODMAN: With the family's consent?

EILEEN WELSOME: They sought the consent of the families, but they did
not tell the families the true purpose for the exhumations.

AMY GOODMAN: What did they tell them?

EILEEN WELSOME: That they had been given some radio isotope or some
chemical and wanted to see what it had done in the bodies of their
loved ones.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, that's true, isn't it?

EILEEN WELSOME: Yes, but they didn't use the word Plutonium.

AMY GOODMAN: Can you name a scientist and can you tell us what the
response has been?

EILEEN WELSOME: When I did my research, most of the scientists, with
the exception of Himer Fridel, who was the assistant medical director
of the Manhattan Project, were dead.

AMY GOODMAN: The Manhattan Project being --

EILEEN WELSOME: The atomic bomb program. But the scientist who had
conducted the more recent studies defended them. That they were
important to protecting the workers in the nuclear weapons complex or
that they were harmless.

AMY GOODMAN: So let's go through the experiments. The 18 people
injected with Plutonium, none of them knew that that had happened to
them. But moving on, in a Massachusetts school, 73 disabled children
spoon fed oatmeal that had radio isotopes in them, radioactive
isotopes. What happened?

EILEEN WELSOME: In that case, this was a nutrition study and they were
given radioactive calcium and other radio isotopes.

AMY GOODMAN: Every morning?

EILEEN WELSOME: In their oatmeal, it was either mixed into the oatmeal
or in the milk. And these boys did not know what was being given to
them, nor did their parents. And in fact, they were told that this was
really something nutritious and good for them. They were asked to give
blood samples, urine samples, feces samples.

AMY GOODMAN: How long did this go on for?

EILEEN WELSOME: It went on for a number of years. And these boys grew
into men and did not find out what had been done to them until the

AMY GOODMAN: Upstate New York hospital, 18-year-old girl thinks she's
being treated for a pituitary disorder and gets injected with

EILEEN WELSOME: This was a young woman who like Elmer Allen wound up
in a hospital at the wrong place and was injected.

AMY GOODMAN: Tennessee clinic, 829 pregnant women served radioactive
iron as part of their regular treatment. What did they think they were

EILEEN WELSOME: This was a study done immediately after World War II
and these young women came to the clinic thinking that they were
getting vitamins to drink, that this would help their babies. And in
fact, what was being studied was how fast the radio iodine crossed
into the placenta.

AMY GOODMAN: Where was this?

EILEEN WELSOME: At Vanderbilt University in Nashville.

AMY GOODMAN: And what happened to these women?

EILEEN WELSOME: They had all kinds of ailments, skin diseases, cancer,
blood disorders, some of their offspring, their children that they
were carrying at the time of this experiment died of cancer. And very
strange cancers at young ages.

AMY GOODMAN: Were there any whistle blowers among the doctors and

EILEEN WELSOME: There was none whatsoever. The doctors closed ranks
and considered this worthwhile science, and something they were doing
to protect the country.

AMY GOODMAN: What about patients brought into the basement of the
hospital and experimented on in the middle of the night, where was

EILEEN WELSOME: This was an experiment that was done in Cincinnati,
Ohio. It was another one of these hybrid experiments that was half
medical, half military. And in many cases, that's the problem with
hybrid experiments. Often times, what's medically good for the patient
is not militarily the best experiment. So these studies were done with
cancer patients. They were told it would help their cancer. What the
doctors were looking at was trying to figure out in the event of an
atomic bomb detonation, how long could soldiers fight?

AMY GOODMAN: We're talking to Eileen Welsome. Her series came out in
the Albuquerque Tribune and she turned it into a book, the Plutonium
Files. Your expose came out under the Clinton years. President Clinton
set up an advisory committee on human radiation experiments, which did
its own digging into radiation programs. Remarkably enough, the
report, the final report, came out on October 3, 1995, the same day as
the verdict in the O.J. Simpson case. I don't remember seeing the
results being reported.

EILEEN WELSOME: It was really unfortunate, because everybody in the
country was focused on O.J. Simpson and --

AMY GOODMAN: Or was it timed right? Because let's remember every day
people were waiting to the Simpson verdict, so it clearly was not
beyond the government commission to understand the attention of the
nation was focused elsewhere.

EILEEN WELSOME: I hadn't thought about that, Amy. It's simply a

AMY GOODMAN: So the results came out anyway?

EILEEN WELSOME: The results came out anyway, and nobody paid attention
to it.

AMY GOODMAN: And what were the results?

EILEEN WELSOME: Basically, they confirmed that thousands and thousands
of experiments had been done on U.S. Citizens. That the victims were
the most vulnerable people in our society: the young, the
disenfranchised, the poor, people of color, people who did not know
enough to ask questions. In other words, the subjects were not
doctor's children or friends of their doctors; they were people who
were vulnerable.

AMY GOODMAN: And how many places did this happen in the United States?
The school in Massachusetts, the Cincinnati test, Elmer Allen was at
the University of California Berkeley, how many sites were these
government scientists working in?

EILEEN WELSOME: There were hundreds of sites. There were private
hospitals, public hospitals, military installations, orphanages. About
any place that doctor was working where they might be able to get a


EILEEN WELSOME: Yes, that was a really, really ugly experiment. A
group of prisoners had their testicles eradiated.


EILEEN WELSOME: In Oregon mostly. And the purpose was for NASA. They
were interested in knowing the effects of space radiation on

AMY GOODMAN: And what happened to these prisoners?

EILEEN WELSOME: Many of them that I interviewed were still in
prison. They had all kinds of medical problems and cancers and health

AMY GOODMAN: Lawsuits?

EILEEN WELSOME: Many, many lawsuits filed. Some of the families were
compensated. The Plutonium patients got an average per family of
$400,000. I think that was the largest. And patients at other sites
around the country got lesser amounts.

AMY GOODMAN: What about today? Do you think which have learned
anything? And as people listen to this, I'm sure there are many who
will start to wonder.

EILEEN WELSOME: I think that the way to safeguard yourself, you as a
patient or your loved ones as patients, is by asking questions. And
the other way to safeguard -- the other way to prevent these things
from happening again is to make sure that what we do is open an
available to the public. Because openness is a disinfectant and it
keeps these kinds of malignant, unethical experiments from happening.

AMY GOODMAN: Yet we have entered an age of perhaps greater secrecy
than ever before.

EILEEN WELSOME: That's correct. In fact, I realized as I was doing my
book, my intuition told me this was a small window that was closing
and I don't think that today I could get some of the documents that I
was able to get for this book.

AMY GOODMAN: Soldiers?

EILEEN WELSOME: Thousands of soldiers were used in bomb tests in


EILEEN WELSOME: Well, they were ordered into the blast area within
minutes after a detonation. They flew in -- Air Force pilots flew into
radioactive clouds. They detonated atomic bombs in the Pacific. The
soldiers and sailors were then ordered in to retrieve various
instruments that were contaminated.

AMY GOODMAN: And then there were not the people who were personally
fed the radio isotopes, the kids at the school or the women who were
given these vitamin cocktails that were radioactive. But there was the
disbursing of radio activity in the air over cities, at schools?

EILEEN WELSOME: That's correct. One of the most famous is the Green
Run at the Hanford Reservation.

AMY GOODMAN: In Washington state?

EILEEN WELSOME: In Washington State in which they released radio
iodine and the prairie was very hot, but that was one of the
controversial findings in this committee report. They did not say or
recommend that the government be forbidden from doing this. They
basically said you need to have a committee and at some point the
documents should be made public. I thought that was one of the worst
recommendations that they came out with.

AMY GOODMAN: I want to thank you very much for being with us. What was
the biggest revelation for you in this research and looking at the
Plutonium Files?

EILEEN WELSOME: The biggest revelation for me was to see how cruel and
inhuman these very educated doctors were toward their patients.

AMY GOODMAN: And not telling them?

EILEEN WELSOME: And not telling them.

AMY GOODMAN: And the medical establishment today, is it backing them

EILEEN WELSOME: They were when I was doing my research on this
book. They still defended these experiments as being important.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, Eileen Welsome, thank you for being with us. The
book is called "The Plutonium Files: America's Secret Medical
Experiments in the Cold War." Tomorrow on Democracy Now!, we'll be
joined by Joyce Mescus, the owner of The Tattered Cover, an
independent bookstore in Denver who has been talked about by many
booksellers as the one who took on the US Government when police came
in to get records of someone who had bought a book in her store. She
spent tens of thousands of dollars fighting this case. We're going to
talk about what this means this day and age. We're also going to speak
with a doctor who has treated soldiers coming back from Iraq.

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