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Longley's Enlightened Empire (Re: Enlightened Empiricism, Extensionalism and the Control of Operant Behavior)

David Longley David at longley.demon.co.uk
Thu Nov 4 11:02:48 EST 2004

In article <10okfike49bgs47 at corp.supernews.com>, Albert 
<alwagner at tcac.net> writes
>David Longley wrote:
>> In article <10ok8bammq1pdc9 at corp.supernews.com>, Albert 
>><alwagner at tcac.net> writes
>>> David Longley wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> The above is just further evidence of the type of liberal, irrational,
>>>> decadence and ignorance...
>>> Your use of the word 'liberal' as a derogative places all of your 
>>>arguments and comments in proper perspective, as does your constant 
>>>attempt to slime a variety of newsgroups by heavy crossposting.
>>> <snip>
>> Your "perspective" is naive, ignorant and idiotic.
>>  Give yourself an education and try to read Skinner's "Beyond Freedom 
>>and  Dignity" 1971, and then, if you can manage it (which I suspect 
>>you  can't), "Upon Further Reflection" (1987).
>>  If that's all too much for you, try the populist version, ie 
>>Chomsky's  "Manufacturing Consent" 1992, or for some figures, try 
>>Murray and  Herrnstein's "The Bell Curve" (1994).
>>  Along the way, give a few moments' thought to why so many of the 
>>above  (and many like them) find folk like yourself and Verhey 
>>incorrigibly  ignorant.
>I can only add to my previous remarks that you are also a racial bigot, 
>as evidenced by your championing of _The Bell Curve_.  I am *delighted* 
>to be considered 'incorrigibly ignorant' by your racist behaviorist 
It's not about "race", it's about the distribution of human abilities, 
class structure, human behavioural genetics, human migration, mating and 
the effects of long term natural selection. "Race" is incidental as you 
would have picked up if you'd actually read and understood any of it.

You *are* incorrigibly ignorant, and you're also a naive dupe of what 
amounts to a "politically correct" irrational liberalism which amounts 
to a bizarre form of intellectual fascism and you risk sacrificing 
everything rational about science as a consequence.

Try to do some *critical* self analysis and look at the empirical 
research instead of posting fanciful rubbish. There are few findings 
with as much evidence behind it as the above, and I suggest you should 
make a determined effort to grasp what it means and it's global 
implications rather than burying your head up your rectum because you 
don't "like" it or would "like" it to be otherwise. It's because of your 
sort of behaviour that careful science is driven underground and worse.
David Longley

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