SciAm article [was Happy Groundhog Day!]
kenneth.p.collins at worldnet.att.net
Fri Feb 11 17:02:18 EST 2005
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| "kenneth collins" <kenneth.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
| > "kenneth collins" <kenneth.p.collins at worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
| > news:CQzMd.1851$Th1.937 at bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| > | [...]
| > | "Memory" is extremely-very-much
| > | more than "synapses", but this article
| > | reduces it all to "synapses".
| > |
| > -----snip ---
| > Think about it in terms of other sys-
| > tems of information-representation.
| > 1. The English-Alphabet.
| > 26 symbols that can be used to create
| > "words", "sentences", "paragraphs",
| > "essays", "Letters to the Editor", "News-
| > group Posts", "Chapters", "Poems",
| > "Song Lyrics", "Books", "Libraries",
| > etc., ad infinitum.
| > ---------snip -----
| > One can't get to "here" invoking
| > only "synapses" -- "memory" is
| > =much= more than "synapses".
| If you can explain how the "Libraries" are more than
| 'ink on the paper', then you can explain to us how memory is
| more than "synapses".
The answer to the question implied
in your reply was in the post to which
you replied, but I'll reiterate it, here,
from a slightly 'different' angle.
If Libraries were not more than
"ink on the paper", 'books' would
have to write-themselves -- you
know -- 'Poof!' into being via
It's the same with 'memory' and
the same with respect to any
'individual' "synapse", and with
respect to all the "synapses"
that exist within a nervous sys-
So how can "memory" be "all
synapses", when a "synapse"
can have no existence without
the hugely-more stuff to which
I referred in my previous post,
to which you've replied?
It's not "ink on the paper" that
makes a book "a book" -- that
which puts "information" into
a book is what makes it "a book",
and, without that which puts in-
formation into a book, one can
put all the ink on paper that one
wants to put on paper, stack
'volumes' of such "ink on the
paper" stuff up on shelves in
a building, but the result will not
be a "library", and there will
be no "information" in the vol-
umes, none on a "page", none
in any little inky squiggle.
It's the same with respect to
That nervous systems are not
like "books" is what I was get-
ting at in my use of an "alpha-
"Memory" occurs as a function
of =global= nervous system dyn-
amics, and, within such, there's
lots of sutff that's at least as im-
portant as are "synapses", and a
lot of stuff that's easily seen to be
more-important than "synapses",
because, while individual synapses
are "dispensible", the more-import-
ant stuff isn't. That stuff is globally-
integrated TD E/I-minimization,
and it's =in-it=, and nowhere else,
that "memory" resides.
[Note to those who are considering
the "ER Engram" hypothesis that
I shared a few 'weeks' back -- to
reiterate, I expect that it will be Ver-
ified that the ER constitutes a cellular-
level 'library' that enables a cell to
configure itself within on-going TD
E/I-minimization, so that, along with
=much more=, the cell's contribution
to "memory" will also be optimized".
With respect to "synapses", the ER
is "boss" to them, and they come
and go while the ER 'just' builds
Directional-encoded TD E/I-mini-
mization-evoked "information". [FLASH!
4:35pm, Friday, 2005-02-11 --
which warrants some consideration
with respect to degenerative diseases.]]
"Where'd he get that @#$#%& stuff?"
k. p. collins
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