[Neuroscience] Re: why did humans grow a bigger neocortex?

Glen M. Sizemore via neur-sci%40net.bio.net (by gmsizemore2 from yahoo.com)
Thu Jul 19 12:37:17 EST 2007


"John H." <bingblat from goaway.com.au> wrote in message 
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> Hello Peter,
>
>
> Yes, there is some very interesting stuff that this chap is coming up 
> with.
> Even decortication can allow the animal to engage in quite complex
> behaviors. The idea that consciousness is a "higher function" is just
> dualism in disguise. Perhaps like yourself I don't believe in "all or
> nothing consciousness". Actually these days I can't even clearly 
> distinguish
> "consciousness" and awareness". We need a new way to understand all this 
> and
> this chap is heading in the right direction.

I disagree. Most of what he says is not new - indeed, the distinctions 
between implicit and explicit memories etc. shows that this stuff is old 
hat. What is needed is a conceptual overhaul of cognitive "science." 
Unfortunately, one exists (its called "behaviorism") already but has been 
largely ignored.



> "Entertained by my own EIMC" <write_to_eimc from ozemail.com.au> wrote in 
> message
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>> It looks like your list contains references that are might be rationally
>> aligned with the concepts of levels (and "lines") of consciousness (or of
>> actending or paying actention).
>>
>> ["1st-line, 2nd-line, and 3rd-line consciousness" are expression used by
>> Arthur Janov.]
>>
>> The normally naive, neglectful and nebulous (hollow-headed or empty)
> meaning
>> of "consciousness" will continue according to people's careless ignorance
>> and neglect of available relevant scientific facts - i.e. it will 
>> continue
>> unless these facts become corroberated towards the formation of a 
>> subsumed
>> crystaline (by definition 'in dEPTh') meaning.
>>
>> "konstantin kouzovnikov" <myukhome from hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mailman.292.1184611717.11350.neur-sci from net.bio.net...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "John H." <bingblat from goaway.com.au>
>> >>To: neur-sci from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>> >>Subject: [Neuroscience] Re: why did humans grow a bigger neocortex?
>> >>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:20:24 +1000
>> >>
>> >>It may be purely anatomical, standing upright, the skull base must be
>> >>changed and that may allow some favourable changes.
>> >
>> >
>> > The following may contribute to the discussion:
>> >
>> > Merker B.
>> > Related Articles, Links
>> > Consciousness without a cerebral cortex: A challenge for neuroscience
> and
>> > medicine.
>> > Behav Brain Sci. 2007 Feb;30(1):63-81.
>> > PMID: 17475053 [PubMed - in process]
>> >
>> > Merker B.
>> > Related Articles, Links
>> > Grounding consciousness: The mesodiencephalon as thalamocortical base.
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>> > PMID: 17475081 [PubMed - in process]
>> > 5:
>> > Watt DF.
>> > Related Articles, Links
>> > Affirmative-action for the brainstem in the neuroscience of
> consciousness:
>> > The zeitgeist of the brainstem as a "dumb arousal" system.
>> > Behav Brain Sci. 2007 Feb;30(1):108-10.
>> > PMID: 17475079 [PubMed - in process]
>> > 6:
>> > van Honk J, Morgan BE, Schutter DJ.
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>> > 7:
>> > Panksepp J.
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> of
>> > the soul.
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>> > 8:
>> > Northoff G.
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>> > 9:
>> > Izard C.
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>> > 10:
>> > Edelman DB.
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>> > 11:
>> > Doesburg SM, Ward LM.
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>> > 12:
>> > Coenen AM.
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>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > konstantin
>> >
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