new name?

Lee Hadden hadden at WINGATE.EDU
Tue Jun 9 21:43:13 EST 1998


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Lee Hadden wrote:

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> This has to be one of the top four topics in terms of responses in the past
> year!  I'll have to ditto responses from David and Jon and add some
> additional thoughts:
>
> 1.  What perception of us do people who are seeking answers get, if we
> isolate ourselves from them [or them from us]?   "Us" being anything from
> "plant-eders" to college faculty, biologists, botanists, researchers,
> people in general?  We represent,officially or unofficially, our
> discipline, institution, and profession [not to mention supposedly
> civilized and educated fellow humans.]
>
> 2.  I wish my students would ask as many questions!   Those seeking answers
> and assistance are the ones who want to learn and are thus teachable; and
> are the ones I want to teach.
>
> 3.  At least in this forum we have the option [privilege] of ignoring ones
> we think are poorly stated or thought out, or [more importantly perhaps]
> those questions to which we don't know the answer.  At least we don't have
> to say "I don't know"  more than our egos can bear or drop back and punt
> with some half-baked response trying to look like we know a little about
> everything!  And how nice to be able to "proof" our responses or reconsider
> them before airing them!
>
> 4.  It is so easy, as some have pointed out, to delete ones we don't want
> to deal with.
> CLICK!  Problem solved.
> Why create work by filtering, moderating, renaming, etc., especially at the
> risk of turning away or turning off individuals who sincerely want help but
> didn't know which source was most appropriate for their query.  If we're
> educators, let's do just that when and where we can, with whomever we can.
>
> 5.   Maybe there ought to be one master link to the links David Kramer
> listed for us, listed under our banner or somewhere on the page.  Then
> people who need gardening help would have ready access to those.   [one
> caution:  I have stayed away from giving technical advice to people whose
> endeavors involved risk to themselves or their students.  If my
> contribution were taken as endorsement of some procedure over which I had
> no oversight, by a person whose technical abilities and safety awareness
> were unknown to me, I might unwittingly help create a dangerous situation.
> Other than to caution them, if responding at all, I've left them alone,
> hoping they would seek on-site help from a colleague who might notice and
> point out hazards.   The most recent "using steam to kill phloem" is a case
> in point.  Possibly workable in my lab, but not necessarily in one I'm not
> supervising  or familiar with.
>
> Keep up the encouraging, inspiring, and tremendously helpful work
> colleagues!  It's great to have an arena in which I can get insight on
> things I'm ignorant about, and with colleagues with whom I am comfortable
> showing where I am ignorant, knowing I won't be for long!  [If your
> students could get a feel for you as real people in search of knowledge
> (answers to questions) from this site as I have, our academic endeavors
> with them would be greatly enhanced.]
>
> Have a great week!
>
> Lee Hadden
>
> Jon Monroe wrote:
>
> > Plant-ed...
> >
> > is a good name that a lot of people recognize.  I really don't think we
> > have a problem so lets not try to fix it.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >   Jonathan Monroe                voice:  540-568-6649 (office)
> >   Department of Biology                  540-568-6045 (lab)
> >   James Madison University       fax:    540-568-3333
> >   Harrisonburg, VA 22807-0001    e-mail: monroejd at jmu.edu
> >     http://www.jmu.edu/biology/biofac/jmonroe/jmonroe.html
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> This has to be one of the top four topics in terms of responses in the
> past year!&nbsp; I'll have to ditto responses from David and Jon and add
> some additional thoughts:
>
> <P>1.&nbsp; What perception of us do people who are seeking answers get,
> if we isolate ourselves from them [or them from us]?&nbsp;&nbsp; "Us" being
> anything from "plant-eders" to college faculty, biologists, botanists,
> researchers, people in general?&nbsp; We represent,officially or unofficially,
> our discipline, institution, and profession [not to mention supposedly
> civilized and educated fellow humans.]
>
> <P>2.&nbsp; I wish my students would ask as many questions!&nbsp;&nbsp;
> Those seeking answers and assistance are the ones who want to learn and
> are thus teachable; and are the ones I <B>want</B> to teach.
>
> <P>3.&nbsp; At least in this forum we have the option [privilege] of ignoring
> ones we think are poorly stated or thought out, or [more importantly perhaps]
> those questions to which we don't know the answer.&nbsp; At least we don't
> have to say "I don't know"&nbsp; more than our egos can bear or drop back
> and punt with some half-baked response trying to look like we know a little
> about everything!&nbsp; And how nice to be able to "proof" our responses
> or reconsider them before airing them!
>
> <P>4.&nbsp; It is so easy, as some have pointed out, to delete ones we
> don't want to deal with.
> <BR>CLICK!&nbsp; Problem solved.
> <BR>Why create work by filtering, moderating, renaming, etc., especially
> at the risk of turning away or turning off individuals who sincerely want
> help but didn't know which source was most appropriate for their query.&nbsp;
> If we're educators, let's do just that when and where we can, with whomever
> we can.
>
> <P>5.&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe there ought to be one master link to the links
> David Kramer listed for us, listed under our banner or somewhere on the
> page.&nbsp; Then people who need gardening help would have ready access
> to those.&nbsp;&nbsp; [one caution:&nbsp; I have stayed away from giving
> technical advice to people whose endeavors involved risk to themselves
> or their students.&nbsp; If my contribution were taken as endorsement of
> some procedure over which I had no oversight, by a person whose technical
> abilities and safety awareness were unknown to me, I might unwittingly
> help create a dangerous situation.&nbsp; Other than to caution them, if
> responding at all, I've left them alone, hoping they would seek on-site
> help from a colleague who might notice and point out hazards.&nbsp;&nbsp;
> The most recent "using steam to kill phloem" is a case in point.&nbsp;
> Possibly workable in my lab, but not necessarily in one I'm not supervising&nbsp;
> or familiar with.
>
> <P>Keep up the encouraging, inspiring, and tremendously helpful work colleagues!&nbsp;
> It's great to have an arena in which I can get insight on things I'm ignorant
> about, and with colleagues with whom I am comfortable showing where I am
> ignorant, knowing I won't be for long!&nbsp; [If your students could get
> a feel for you as real people in search of knowledge (answers to questions)
> from this site as I have, our academic endeavors with them would be greatly
> enhanced.]
>
> <P>Have a great week!
>
> <P>Lee Hadden
> <BR>&nbsp;
>
> <P>Jon Monroe wrote:
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Plant-ed...
>
> <P>is a good name that a lot of people recognize.&nbsp; I really don't
> think we
> <BR>have a problem so lets not try to fix it.
>
> <P>Jon
>
> <P>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> <BR>&nbsp; Jonathan Monroe&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> voice:&nbsp; 540-568-6649 (office)
> <BR>&nbsp; Department of Biology&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> 540-568-6045 (lab)
> <BR>&nbsp; James Madison University&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 540-568-3333
> <BR>&nbsp; Harrisonburg, VA 22807-0001&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e-mail: monroejd at jmu.edu
> <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A HREF="http://www.jmu.edu/biology/biofac/jmonroe/jmonroe.html">http://www.jmu.edu/biology/biofac/jmonroe/jmonroe.html</A>
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