Kittentails (Wulfenia = Besseya)

[Darin Burleigh]

Does anyone have experience collecting seeds from 
Kittentails? latin name Besseya (== Wulfenia) bullii, in the
the Scrophulariacea. 
Should they be completely brown? or can you collect them 
semi-green? 
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