In article <005101bf2746$130bd600$6f8edcd8 at clb>, Charles & Sonya wrote: > botany positions Normally on one's knees, with nose to the ground and posterior pointing skywards, hence the collective term - a rump of botanists. 8-) Regards, Roger - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Roger Whitehead, Oxted, Surrey, England