[Plant-biology] Re: Identify Ohio plant

bae from cs.toronto.no-uce.edu via plantbio%40net.bio.net (by bae from cs.toronto.no-uce.edu)
Thu Jul 5 15:33:34 EST 2007

In article <mailman.203.1183659756.11350.plantbio from net.bio.net>,
Vinson Doyle <sonofvin from gmail.com> wrote:
>You can tell the garlic from the onions by the flattened leaves.  Onions
>have rounded, hollow leaves.

Leeks have flat leaves too, as do many other Allium species including
garlic chives.  On the other hand, quite a few Allium spp have round
leaves like onions (A.cepa), including some non-bulbing vegetable species,
chives, and others.

Allium is a huge genus, and many spp are used as ornamentals, so there's
no telling what you might find in the wild, growing as an escape.  BUt
from the picture, it sure looks like a hardneck garlic.  I don't know
of any other common species that does that act with the twisting stalk
with the top developing into a sterile inflorescence of topsets.

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here.

>On 7/3/07, Carol Paliwoda <capaliwoda from yahoo.com> wrote:
>> monique <monique from mail.bio.tamu.edu> wrote in
>> news:f6b3cj$kji$1 from news.tamu.edu:
>> > Carol Paliwoda wrote:
>> >> Can anyone identify this plant found in an Ohio field (pointed white
>> >> bulb on end of long stalk)?  Pictures at
>> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cpal/
>> >
>> > Almost certainly a species of _Allium_, the genus that includes onions
>> > and garlic.
>> >
>> > M. Reed
>> >
>> A reply I got in sci.bio.botany quoted:
>> "It's garlic, Allium sativum, a rocambole or hardneck form.  The stalks
>> will straighten and the structure on top will develop into a bunch of
>> tiny topsets, sometimes with abortive flowers.  When the topsets dry
>> they will drop off and grow into a single clove the following year,
>> and a small bulb the year after, also putting up a stalk with topsets.
>> You can go back later this summer and dig up the small bulbs and eat
>> them or plant cloves to get more bulbs next year.  The topsets can
>> become a bit of a pest in the garden, but you can eat the young plants
>> from them in the spring as 'green garlic', just like green onions.
>> Garlic is an old world plant, not native to Ohio.  Most garlic varieties
>> for cold climates are hardneck forms like this.  The 'hard neck' is the
>> remains of the stalk.  Warm climate garlics are usually softneck forms.
>> They don't put up a stalk."
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