women in science

Janet Bryant jl_bryant at pnl.gov
Thu Oct 20 11:42:27 EST 1994


In article <3847q0$46l at bbs.pnl.gov>, jl_bryant at pnl.gov (Janet Bryant) says:
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>In article <1994Sep27.221559.5512 at rivers>, tb02 at rivers.acc.uwrf.edu says:
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>>I am doing a study on the low participation of women in science 
>>(particularly in chemistry and physics).  I would like to get input from 
>>anyone with anpinion or experiance related to this tipopic.  Points
>>to consider would be: discrimination in the classroom, exclusion of 
>>women in classroom discussion, verbal discouragement from teachers or 
>>peers, "uncool" stereotypes of science people, and anything else yuoou
>>can think of.  If you have access to any good data or resources on this 
>>topic, please mention that too.
>>- 
>>thomas.l.buchanan at uwrf.edu.
>>
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To: jl_bryant at pnl.gov
From: jl_bryant at pnl.gov (Janet Bryant)
Subject: Re: women in science
Organization: Battelle Pacific Northwest Labs
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 09:19:50 PST
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In article <3847q0$46l at bbs.pnl.gov>, you say:
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>In article <1994Sep27.221559.5512 at rivers>, tb02 at rivers.acc.uwrf.edu says:
>>
>>I am doing a study on the low participation of women in science 
>>(particularly in chemistry and physics).  I would like to get input from 
>>anyone with anpinion or experiance related to this tipopic.  Points
>>to consider would be: discrimination in the classroom, exclusion of 
>>women in classroom discussion, verbal discouragement from teachers or 
>>peers, "uncool" stereotypes of science people, and anything else yuoou
>>can think of.  If you have access to any good data or resources on this 
>>topic, please mention that too.
>>- 
>>thomas.l.buchanan at uwrf.edu.
>>
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>Some of the best resources I am aware of on this subject:
>
>The Association for Women In Science (AWIS).  (1993).  "A Hand Up: 
>Women Mentoring Women in Science".  Washington, D.C  
>ISBN #0-9634590-2-3
>=Has a forward by Bernadine Healy (Director of the the National
>Institutes of Health) that is (in and of itself) full of a wealth of 
>references to informational studies on this subject.
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>The American Association of University Women. (1992). "How Schools
>Shortchange Girls." Washington, D.C.
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>Girgus, Joan S., and Catherine A. Sanderson. (Sept 1988) "Women and
>Science: An alliance gone awry". (Discussion paper prepared for the Science
>Advisory Committee, Pew Science Program in Undergraduate Education).
>Philadelphia: Pew Charitable Trusts.
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>National Science Foundation. (1992). "Women and minorities in science 
>and engineering: An Update". Washington, D.C.
>>
>Seymour, Elaine, and Hewitt, Nancy. (1992). "Factors contributing to high 
>attrition rates among science and engineering undergraduate majors".
>(Report prepared for the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation). New York: Alfred P. Sloan
>Foundation.
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>That should get you started.  As a senior research scientist at Pacific
>Northwest Laboratory in Richland, WA, I am intrigued by this whole subject.
>I'm the product of parochial schools in Chicago, IL (read that to mean: taught
>by nuns for 13 years....:-)
>and yet was encouraged to be good at what I am good at....math and science.
>
>I am also very stubborn.  Which according to the above studies seems to
>be correlated at least to longevity in the field, if not, success.
>
>regards.
>
>Janet Bryant
>jl_bryant at pnl.gov
>"opinions are mine.  all mine.  no one else dares to claim them, especially my
>employer...."
>
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Thomas:  I also wanted to share a personal recollection from my
college days (that's 18 years ago)....

The chairman of my chemistry dept. (male, p-chem prof) saw that I
was partying all night; learning to chug beer; and still pulling straight
A's in a double major of chem and mathmatics.

He angrily told me that I'd "...never graduate with a chemistry degree from
his department.  Not as long as he was chairman."  and "Why don't 
you get married and have babies instead and not waste all of our time!"

I very deliberately told him that not only would I graduate with a chem
degree, I would do so with honor, and win the award for top graduating
chem senior while doing so.  With or without his blessings.

I had to take him for p-chem my senior year.  I had a perfect 4.0 in chem
up til then.  He gave me my first C of my academic career.  And I thanked
him...because a C is still passing. ( I deserved a B, and had the records
to prove it...)

Anyway.  I performed real research as an undergrad under the tutelage of
my organic professor.  That was the first year they awarded a "joint" award 
in chemistry.  to me and to a straight A, double major (also a woman) in
biology and chem.  She is now an MD in the Midwest.

I went back to visit 6 years out of school.  My organic professor was now
the department chair. (still is) We're working out the details of cooperative research
between my DOE project and that department at a small liberal arts college
in the midwest.

I told you I was stubborn.

Any other questions?  It was fun to think about why I went into this
craziness once in a while....

Janet
jl_bryant at pnl.gov
Pacific Northwest Laboratories
Richland, WA
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