grad student connections

Mandy Johnstone udbl119 at
Wed Apr 5 10:21:58 EST 1995

In article <199504031854.LAA11872 at> eoshuster at UCDAVIS.EDU (Beth Shuster) writes:
>Subject: Re: grad student connections
>From: eoshuster at UCDAVIS.EDU (Beth Shuster)
>Date: 3 Apr 1995 11:54:29 -0700

>On 4/2, Julie Keith <Julia.A.Keith at> wrote:  
><our program here has a minimum of 5 years (even if you
>>come in with a masters already) and I know of programs (Harvard comes to mind)
>>where the average grad student stay is 8-10 years.  How come the US demands so
>>much more time? 

>  My understanding is that students in the UK are forced to specialize MUCH
>earlier than in the US & have taken what we would consider to be graduate
>level courses before starting the PhD program.  Thus, they take few, if any
>formal courses once they do enter a program & can devote full time to
>  Clarification would be appreciated from those of you who've actually gone
>through the UK sustem.


>Beth Shuster                        
>Univ. of California, Davis
>eoshuster at

Hi Beth,

This was what I thought I posted yesterday. I am just finishing off my Ph.D in 
London and I have been in the lab for three solid years-no lecture programs. 
All those finished when I finished my degree which as you say was fairly 
intense in the final year doing 8 very specific units of study. I cannot 
say how this  compares to a US undergrad degree since I 
haven't gone through your system.

Mandy Johnstone
(M.Johnstone at

King's College, London.

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