women and men in science etc

Rachelle J. Bienstock rachelle at picard.niehs.nih.gov
Tue Dec 12 16:54:12 EST 1995


All these people at universities keep mentioning people bringing their
kids into labs, etcetera...I should remind people that in most places
it is forbidden to bring children into laboratories or even on-sight
as it is a safety violation- violates fire laws, etcetera...In fact, I worked
in a research lab in industry for 4 years and it was forbidden to bring
any children under the age of 12 on to the premises...with the exception
of "bring your child to work day" or "family day" and then children's access
was strictly controlled.

When you are a graduate student or post doc, you are more in control of
your time and schedule..as long as you show you are getting work done.
When you are an independent researcher in government or industry you have
to fill out time cards, work during normal business hours (with a little
flexibility, but in most places, basically sometime between 8:00 am and 6 pm).
If you have to take your kid to the doctor, or if your kid is sick you have
to use some of the 10 days per year vacation or 5 days per year sick leave you
have or take a day of personal leave without pay....

It is very difficult especially when kids are small, they get colds, ear
infections and run fevers alot...then day care won't take them and you are
scurrying to make alternative plans...Also you are up all night for several
nights in a row and barely functioning....then 9 out of 10 times you come down
with what your kid had as well....

Even when you have a spouse who helps it is very difficult!




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