"Y" not? and "women's" work

[Joy Frestedt]

I have to agree with Sarah here.  This is a forum for women,largely by 
women, and about the special needs of women.  I don't want to lose this.  
Let's talk about our needs and if men have contributions - hopefully they 
support our needs.  The women and men on this group are mostly bright, 
intelligent and helpful - let's return to discussions of import to women 
biologists.

I'm applying for a job teaching because the cut throat medical research, 
stress, and competition are a pain.  Am I copping out because I'm female?  
Or I'm female and therefore I expect better behavior from my colleagues 
(mostly men in powerful places) than I've been receiving.  I do expect 
better behavior, but most of the men who counsel me say to expect this 
deplorable treatment in the work I do.  Many women confidents (and forward 
thinking wonderful men generally NOT in the trenches with me) also expect 
better behavior.

Joy

========Sarah wrote=====
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As to male participation, I still feel that this group should revolve 
around womans issues and that men do not necessarily have a place as 
active members.  I realise that they have a viewpoint and have things to 
say, but I do worry that the purpose of the group will be lost. The whole 
of science and the internet is predominantly male and this seems to be 
the only place women scientists have a forum, without the pressure of 
men. We can talk about what we want to talk about (be it high heels or 
childcare facilities) and set the agenda ourselves. I don't want this to 
be lost.
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=========Alison wrote============
I welcome the postings from our male colleagues.  Many problems
women in the sciences have, seem to be in communications with
male colleagues.  How better to improve communication between
the sexes than to provide a forum where both men and women can
address such issues?
Alison Murray

Joy L Frestedt, PhD candidate
Pathobiology program, Lab Med and Path
University of Minnesota Medical School
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