Sci careers w/o grad school..........

Hilary Bates hbates at amgen.com
Fri Jun 21 13:30:25 EST 1996


chriso at dfrc.wisc.edu wrote:
>Hello.......this is an interesting newsgroup, even though I have 
>gotten some naive, definatly not "grown up yet" (ala DK) replys to 
>some of my thoughts. But what I want to know, is where are all those 
>millions of women out there in the science world with careers who 
>never went to grad school?  We too have to deal with moves (hate our 
>job, company closes, spouse wants to move, etc etc), and harrasment 
>and kids and promotions and and and........Why are they/us/you  not 
>participating in this group?  If you are out there, please let me 
>know!

I'm a distinctly non-traditional scientist. Bachelors in Chemistry, 
worked as an analytical chemist for the British government for two 
years, then moved to an information science post in the same ministry 
and studied part-time for a Masters-equivalent in Information science.
I've worked in Information science ever since, 13 years now, eleven of 
those in the further-specialised area of patent information. I always
had a strong bias towards the biological side of chemistry, taking 
Biology as one of my A-levels and a couple of Biochemistry options 
during my B.A.

I'm now working for a biotech./pharmaceutical company and moved six 
thousand miles for this job (from Britain to California). There simply 
wasn't anything suitable available in the UK for the three years I spent 
looking before I came out here. I'm single and childless, so the move 
was relatively easy (it would probably have been impossible, rather than 
just difficult, with a husband to consider, because of visa issues).

Mobility in Europe is less of a problem, because the individual 
countries are so much smaller than the U.S. Part of the problem here is 
the sheer size of the country. It's possible (though not desirable) to 
commute on a weekly basis from one side (or end) of England to the 
other. It really isn't even possible here unless one is extraordinarily 
committed (either to the job or to the spouse! :-) ).

So, Chris, yes we're here and I at least am participating! Just my 
$0.02. Or perhaps $0.01...

Hilary
hbates at amgen.com
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