Working hard - letter.txt (0/1)

lizzard lizzard at
Sat Mar 22 06:00:37 EST 1997

Caroline Szymeczek-Seay <seay at> wrote:

>Rachelle J. Bienstock wrote:
>> This entire line equating the number of hours worked to working hard
>> is annoying...A person can be in science and take articles, journals,
>> and books to read at home, and work on papers and answering e-mail
>> at home and still be accessible to their children and family when
>> needed....They can also be more productive when they are in their
>> lab at work and sit around eating donuts and make less small talk
>> with people...When you are paying someone a significant fraction
>> of your salary to watch your child/children you are going to make
>> the most of your time...
>> I should also mentioned that scientists in industry are not expected
>> to work 60 or 80 hour work weeks and are certainly compensated far
>> better than graduate students...They are expected to be professionals
>> and to perform the work necessary and required but they are not
>> expected to punch a time clock...If there is somekind of dead line
>> or they are preparing a manuscript, patent or presentation they may
>> work additional hours but it is rare on a regular basis...
>I totally agree with you that one can accomplish a lot outside of the
>lab.  As a postdoc, however, I surely get the impression that "face
>time" in the lab is very important.  The perception of some is that if
>you're not to be seen, you're not working....unfair, but I tend to deal
>with it by playing the game....making sure to be here always at least
>during "normal hours" and often on off hours.  Of course, the most
>important thing is to get the work done, but if it's best for me
>politically to do it when everyone else is around, unfortunately, that's
>what I do.

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