pamela.norton at mail.tju.edu
Tue Jan 8 04:23:17 EST 2002
In article <edeec6c5.0201041100.2712ad3e at posting.google.com>, giner
<giner at my-deja.com> wrote:
> notmyaddress at hotmail.com (SLF) wrote in message
> news:<3C332FEA.4CC0A403 at hotmail.com>...
> > Here's an article for discussion:
> > "Where have all the women faculty gone?"
> > addresses some of the reasons women don't pursue jobs in academe.
> > Importantly, the author makes the
> > point that loss of women from the pipeline isn't due solely to family
> > commitments and long hours. "All the career alternatives that I have
> > mentioned are demanding. Women are not choosing different careers based
> > on the hours involved or the lack of intellectual challenge...... We're
> > not talking about the type of work. We're talking about something
> > social--the established culture, collegiality and mentoring
> > relationships in the academic sciences."
> I thought that was a particularly interesting article. However, I
> question the assumption the author makes above - I know several women,
> including myself, who made the decision to leave academia partially
> because of the long hours involved. I left academia after postdoc'ing
> because I wanted a life. I've found that I love having weekends to
> myself and my husband. (I actually have a hobby now!)
> But maybe the long hours bugged me because I no longer loved what I
> was doing. Compared to grad school, postdoc'ing is a lonely
> experience. I didn't feel like I was part of any group. And I
> certainly didn't feel that I was part of the university I was working
> for. I can also see that feeling of isolation growing worse if I
> became a professor. And, quite frankly, I have rarely met a faculty
> member who seemed to be really happy and enjoying their work. It
> really hit home for me when my grad school advisor, who had always
> appeared rather serene and content with his work, admitted to me that
> if he had the chance to do it all over again he'd do something
> It took a long time to come to the decision to leave academia, and two
> years later it still feels really good.
It's great that you are happy with your decision. Can you tell us a
little bit about what you chose to do instead of sticking to the
academic route? What have been the advantages/trade-offs, in addition
to the extra time that you mention?
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