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Creation of sci.techniques.xtallography on 23/10/1993

Lachlan Cranswick lachlan at dmp.csiro.au
Sun Oct 24 19:32:45 EST 1993


Newsgroups posted to: sci.chem,sci.materials,sci.geo.geology,sci.optics,sci.nanotech,sci.misc,sci.polymers,bionet.xtallography,sci.techniques.xtallography

Followup-To: sci.techniques.xtallography
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This is a post to announce the creation of a crystallography
newsgroup, sci.techniques.xtallography on 23rd October 1993.

Would people please pass this message on to potential users
of this newsgroup.

For interested participants, following is a draft 
"Welcome to sci.techniques.xtallography" which includes the
newsgroup's charter.  People are welcome to post comments, suggestions 
and correct the bad grammar.

Lachlan Cranswick (lachlan at dmp.csiro.au)

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         Draft:    Welcome to sci.techniques.xtallography.
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This is the first of a hopefully regular posting welcoming people to 
the unmoderated newsgroup, "sci.techniques.xtallography".  The main 
aim of this newsgroup is to provide an open, easily accessible, 
electronic conferencing system or bulletin board for the 
crystallographic community on the internet.  The newsgroups (in 
theory) allow queries and discussion to take place in days to weeks, 
that would take months to years (or not at all) on conventional paper 
journals.  Opportunities for informal discussion and exchange of 
information and opinions that might only occur at international 
conferences can routinely take place on the internet newsgroups.

Participants are welcome and encouraged to browse, read, follow-on, 
post, and use this newsgroup as an information server, discussion area 
and electronic conferencing system to its maximum advantage.  Being an 
unmoderated newsgroup, no one owns or runs this newsgroup so.  Thus 
participants should feel uninhibited to freely use this crystallographic 
discussion forum.
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                           ETIQUETTE

It is requested that most of the posts and discussion on this newsgroup
occur in a mature and constructive fashion.  Encouraging 
politeness and courtesy on this newsgroup provides the best chance
of it serving crystallographers and others who would like to use 
this newsgroup as a scientific resource and discussion area.
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                            CHARTER 

Following is part of the original charter for this newsgroup written up 
during the newsgroup creation process.  The main emphasis being 
that this newsgroup is a discussion area for anything relevant to the 
scientific discipline of crystallography.

It should be noted that concerns have been raised about participants
avoiding the peer-review process by publishing structures on this
discussion area that might be incorporated into crystallographic 
databases.  As around two out of five submitted structures have problems 
or errors, it is thus recommended that this newsgroup not be used to 
publish raw results and data that would normally go via the peer-review 
process.


Topics for discussion include:
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Powder diffraction (neutron/X-rays)
Single crystal diffraction
Electron diffraction
Crystal Structure determination
Structure determination
Rietveld Refinement
Software 
Data formats
Databases
Hardware/Equipment - specs, alignment, opinions, etc.
Phase Identification - search match software/techniques/....
Discussion of complementary/confirmatory  techniques :-
         e.g.:- SEM, XRF, MicroProbe, AFM, STM, Optical Microscopy......
Applications to the fields of Mineralogy, Geology, 
         Physics, Chemistry, Industry, etc.
Announcements/reviews of papers/conferences.
Preparation techniques.
Non-ambient techniques (high-pressure/temperature/??)
Discussion on the accuracy/validity of various structures
         and reference patterns.
General Discussion/opinions/questions.
Synchrotron radiation
Positions vacant
Crystallographic texture determination
Biological crystallography and applications
TEM (Transmission Electron Microscopy)
Structural analysis of disordered (i.e. amorphous) materials.

Anything else that is relevant to crystallography in general.


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FAQ's  (frequently asked question files)

One thing users might like to keep in mind is the idea of FAQs 
(frequently asked question files).  After discussion on a particular 
topic, interested people might like to create an FAQ so that any 
conclusions or interesting information are stored and are posted 
regularly to limit the same discussion occurring every 6 months or so.

Examples of a crystallography FAQ might be :-

FAQ sci.techniques.xtallography - structure drawing software
FAQ sci.techniques.xtallography - molecular modelling software
FAQ - crystallography information services on the internet.
FAQ - how to find a colleague's email address on the internet.

Some of above topics have already been already discussed to some extent 
in newsgroups such as sci.chem and sci.materials and thus might be 
appropriate to create FAQs relatively soon.

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FUTURE ACTIONS ON THIS NEWSGROUP

Based on email received, three desirable actions for the near future 
are :-

a) Link this newsgroup to LISTSERV or related software such that 
interested users can read this newsgroup via email.

b) Archive this newsgroup such that old postings are retrievable.

c) Expand awareness of this newsgroup amongst the crystallographic and 
scientific community by announcments on relevant paper journals and 
electronic information servers.

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Again, comments, criticisms and suggestions are appreciated as either 
followons to this post or via email.

Lachlan Cranswick (lachlan at dmp.csiro.au)




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