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re real function, naive bcells

Ephraim Fuchs ejf at welchlink.uoregon.edu
Thu Jun 8 22:42:52 EST 1995


bryan fisk (bryan_fisk at gyn.mda.uth.tmc.edu) wrote:

: >So once again I ask, How do T cells distinguish foreign antigens from 
: >idiotypes presented by B cells?  Why should the former activate and the 
: >latter not?

: For peptides from the idiotypic region to be presented by MHC class I or 
: II molecules it must a) possess the proper binding MHC binding motif and 
: b) have a sufficiently high binding affinity and/or be present in high 
: enough concentration to effectively compete with other self-peptides. 
: Thus, it would appear doubtful that every B-cell  would effectively 
: present idiotypic peptides. Also, B-cells which present peptides via 
: class II but not class I may have an advantage in recieving added T-cell 
: help (possible means of autoimmunity?). Finally, it seems of very low 
: probability that a single, non-proliferating, naive B-cell will 
: encounter a cognate T-cell in the periphery.

The problem I have with this answer is:

1) At least some B cells present their idiotypes (I confess, I don't know 
the fraction)

2) Many of these B cells that do present their idiotypes will become 
activated in the course of their lifetimes

3) If an activated B cell can activate a naive T cell, an autoreactive T 
cell that cross-reacts on that B cell idiotype could do a lot of damage.

As rare as you think such a situation may be, it only takes one encounter 
of an autoreactive T cell with a B cell presenting a cross-reacting 
idiotype during the entire lifetime of the animal to do (possibly) 
significant and potentially lethal damage.

Ephraim Fuchs




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