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re^5 real funct, idiotype, confusion

Ephraim Fuchs ejf at welchlink.uoregon.edu
Sat Jun 10 05:23:37 EST 1995


Whether it's idiotype or idiotope, all I know is that B cells create 
unique linear amino acid sequences in their antibodies by the process of 
V-D-J recombinations, that at least some of these unique peptides that 
are generated in the course of antigen processing and presentation are 
presented to T cells, and that there is no way that I can think of that T 
cells can distinguish these unique peptides made and presented by B cells 
from the IDENTICAL peptides that are characteristic of "foreign" antigens.

That B cells do in fact process and present their unique peptides is 
empirically established (see literature by S. Weiss and B. Bogen).

Just because I cannot think of any way that the immune system can 
distinguish between idiotypes and foreign antigens does not mean that 
there is no such mechanism.  Therefore I repeat, can anyone provide me 
with an acceptable answer to this question?

My answer, by the way, is that T cells can in fact not distinguish, that 
B cells always tolerize naive T cells, and that the consequence of this 
is that the immune system cannot distinguish self from nonself because 
any antigen, self or foreign, presented by a B cell will tolerize naive T 
cells specific for that antigen.

Ephraim Fuchs
ejf at welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





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