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re the real function of immune system, ad naus..

Ephraim Fuchs ejf at welchlink.uoregon.edu
Thu May 25 08:00:06 EST 1995


Dr. Kirberg,

Since you are at Basel, you may wish to talk to Franca Ronchese (if she 
is still there; I do not know).  She did a neat experiment where she 
adoptively transferred F1 (b x d) T cells and B cells into scid (H-2d) 
mice, followed by priming with soluble antigen.  While this priming was 
accompanied by vigorous antibody production, the primed T cells were 
restricted only to H-2d and not to H-2b.  Obviously, because the F1 B 
cells were making antibody, they were activated and interacting with T 
cells.  Yet no H-2b restricted helper T cells were activated.  H-2b 
restricted T cells were generated if the adoptive transfer also included 
F1 professional APC.  So it appears that activated B cells are unable to 
prime the precursors of CD4+ T cells that give help in antibody 
production.  

Maybe we are agreeing, and this is just semantics.  However, the bottom 
line, I believe is that no B cell, resting or activated, can prime naive 
T cells, but they can reactivate memory T cells.

By the way, I don't trust transgenic T cells.  They have more than one 
species of antigen-specific receptor on their surface and so can acquire 
memory from a pairing of endogenous alpha chain and transgenic beta chain.

The reason that all this is important to the original discussion is that 
if B cells fail to activate naive T cells, then the immune system CANNOT 
discriminate self from nonself because any antigen, self or foreign, 
presented exclusively by B cells will tolerize naive T cells specific for it.

Thus one must look for a new paradigm of immune function.

Ephraim Fuchs
ejf at welchlink.welch.jhu.edu





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