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GREAT HEALING immunetn at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 12 03:13:48 EST 1996


Brian Foley wrote:
> 
> GREAT HEALING wrote:
> >
> > --
> > ~~~~WE OVERCAME AIDS! STEVE WILL LIVE!~~~~
> > **********Anya Posdeva  &  Eugene Lerner*************
> > phone:(212) 577 6045 E-mail: immunetn at earthlink.net
> > <<http://home.earthlink.net/~immunetn/txpcaids.htm>>
> >
> >     ---------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> And on these WWW pages we find such nonsense as:
> 
> "Moreover, less then 30% of children born of HIV positive
> mothers have the HIV virus themselves. Just think: nine
> months child was living and nourishing with
> HIV+ blood of his mother and born HIV free.
> THIS MEANS THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT RECEPTIVE TO THE HIV.
> Most of the people who carry HIV and develop AIDS are gay men.
> They have a subtle psycho-physical organization, that is,
> they have a delicate, "sophisticated" immune system, where the
> basic animalistic mechanisms are not working properly. That is
> why AIDS appears only in our time, when refined modern
> civilization leads to refined psycho-physiology of individuals."
> 
>         While the human immune system is affected by
> psycological factors, such as stress, I do not
> believe that a tantric session (or many of them) will
> cure AIDS and cancer.
>         The reason most children are born HIV-free is
> that the placenta does not allow whole virus to cross.
> It is not because most people are resistant to HIV.
>         Most of the HIV-possitive people on earth are
> not gay men.  In the United States, the early epidemic
> was mostly among gay men, but that does not hold true for
> the rest of the world.  I do not believe that ones sexual
> orientation results in a weak or strong immune system.
> 
>         I have reported this SPAM to www.fraud.com and
> I hope these people will stop mis-representing the power
> of their tantric sessions.  Any kind of massage therapy,
> acupuncture or stress reduction is bound to have some
> beneficial results, but I seriously doubt that it can
> cure a significant number of AIDS ro cancer cases.
> --
>  ____________________________________________________________________
> |Brian T. Foley                btf at t10.lanl.gov                      |
> |HIV Database                  (505) 665-1970                        |
> |Los Alamos National Lab       http://hiv-web.lanl.gov/index.html    |
> |Los Alamos, NM 87544  U.S.A.  http://hiv-web.lanl.gov/~btf/home.html|
> |____________________________________________________________________|1. You wrote: "placenta does not allow whole virus to cross."
But the many children are still get the HIV. This means SOME CHILDREN ARE 
MORE 
RECEPTIVE TO THE VIRUS THAN OTHERS.
2. There are countries with very high sexual activity where most people 
are ignorant 
about prevention of sexually transmitted diseases. Still, amount of HIV 
people is not 
remarkable.
SOME PEOPLE ARE LESS RECEPTIVE TO HIV.
3. From times of Freid it is known that sexual life of person affects 
psichophisiology, 
including 
Immune system. We are not saying that sexual orientation affects on 
STRENGTH of 
immune system, we are saying it is affects STRUCTURE of the latter.
4. TANTRIC SESSION 2+2 doesn't just relieve stress. We stimulate 
bones and bone marrow with our hands. Also we concentrate attention of 
our patients 
on the bone marrow and this naturally stimulates it.
5. We did two sessions on Steve specially to prove our theory. Our work 
was 
videotaped by a doctor, the changes in his blood tests was predicted. A 
year after 
Steve is alive and feels good with T4-cell count "9", now it is 80. We 
will be thankful to 
you if you will give some explanation to this fact and give us examples 
of such 
situations from practices of other doctors.
6. Now we are together with New York Association Veterans of police do 
one more 
demonstration, if it will be interesting for you, we can send you 
results. We was 
interested in deeper study of influence of our method stimulation of the 
Immune 
system. This is one of our reasons of placing our add in newsgroups. 
Excuse my Incorrect English and thank you for your attention.

-- 
~~~~WE OVERCAME AIDS! STEVE WILL LIVE!~~~~
**********Anya Posdeva  &  Eugene Lerner*************
phone:(212) 577 6045 E-mail: immunetn at earthlink.net 
<<http://home.earthlink.net/~immunetn/txpcaids.htm>>



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