JohnnyDax1 (johnnydax1 at aol.com) wrote:
: I read somewhere that one antidote for nerve gas, including Sarin, was an
: injection of Atropine Sulfate. Isn't Atropine Sulfate used in some
: non-prescription medications such as back pills? What are the dosage
: differences? I know it's probably silly, but could a person exposed to a
: nerve agent scarf a bottle of back pills and have a better chance of
: survival?
It's a thought... for more normal poisoning, activated charcoal works
well. Uh, I'm trying to reach anyone who was caught in the recent Sarin
bombing, because many of those who were are at risk of becoming what is
known as environmentally ill, or of getting multiple chemical
sensitivities. I am recovering from both, and want to share some simple
helps (without which I would be dead now), but I don't know where to post
them!
I hope this is a right place for this; Usenet is still mostly beyond me,
yet I know how important this was for me, and could be for many of those
recently exposed in Japan. I am sorry if I have posted wrongly. If you
might want to post this to a righter place, please do. If you don't want
to read this, please don't - hit n or d or whatever, now. Thank you for
your time and etc.
They are: things to look out for (symptoms) - mind "fog", sensitivity to
chemicals/scents/locations/types of cloth/soaps/foods/furs/(ad nauseum)
that were not a problem before but which may grow slowly, loss of: fine
motor control, math skills, an impairment of judgement or emotional
control, gross motor control, clear vision, other skills. Weight gain
(a raise in one's metabolic set point), diabetes (if from poisoning or
stress, if acted on quickly, need not become permanent!), asthma,
systemic yeast infections, chronic fatigue, thyroid diseases, allergies,
skin conditions... for starters.
Things to do: avoid things you are now reacting to (call that first aid -
try to prevent symptoms by locating problems and avoiding them),
supporting stressed organs and systems (with medical help, nutritional
supplements, a less-stressing environment, homeopathics, accupuncture,
rest, exercise, herbs, anything that helps *you*, and that varies a
*lot*), and getting the poisons *out*.
That latter item is my main concern, as my pesticide exposure last
September dam' near killed me. Here are some things I have done, for
folk in need to look at doing (preferable under a doctor's care, but most
of these are pretty safe).
Poisons come out via various organs: the lungs (try to get fresh air,
especially during sleep), kidneys (drink lots of water; support other
ways, see a doctor if input doesn't match output), skin (add about 1/2
cup of hydrogen peroxide to a 1-person-sized hot bath, maybe epsom salts,
too: the latter brings out poisons, while the H2O2 has extra oxygen that
connects with the free radicals of the poisons that are sweated out, and
keep them from re-entering the body; if armpits itch, a water/H2O2
solution at about 10:1 will help), and liver (since it dumps poisons into
the stomach, absorbers such as activated charcoal, bentonite clay and
french green clay can be used when the liver is doing more work or more
dumping, induced by heat, exercise, herbs, coffee enemas, gentle massage
of the liver from front and back at once, - but care must be used so that
the absorbers don't absorb nutrients and medications that you *do* want
absorbed!).
To keep poisons (just encountered - if you have allergens, your body treats
them as poisons, and poisons already in the body aften come out with heat,
etc., and then re-enter if not prevented) from getting from the blood
into storage in cells, take anti-oxidants. I was told to look for
*reduced Glutathion* and DMG, and I can tell if my dosage needs to be
raised (if I am in a more chemical environment, for instance), by how I
am reacting. My first dosage was 6 pills a *day*, but reduced within the
week; now that I am able to hold a job, I need 2 or 3 a day, depending on
exposure.
Vitamin C is very good helping the body deal with poisons; I am often at
"bowel tolerance" just to stay healthy enough to work. It is one thing
that - with an eye to the bowels :) - is safe for nearly anyone and is
easily available. I consider it part of first aid against low-level
poisoning. (Activated charcoal of course, if poisons are consumed, is
better right away, but C should be taken later.)
To get heat, I just throw an extra blanket on the bed, and keep a lot of
water near at hand. Cheap woman's sauna. Niacin - low doses, or to the
flush level with absorbers (etc) but maybe once a month (too often, too much
toxins coming out do damage... great way to become diabetic!), can also
get poisons in your cells *out*. Anti-oxidants/c in advance to keep them
from re-entering the cells... and absorbers or water/H2O2 soaks or both,
to get and keep them out of the body, and lots of water so the kidneys can
evacuate it as well.... It is fairly straightforward, and is why I m not
only alive, but able to work again. But your body may prefer things that
my body cannot tolerate (like aloe vera?), so keep the concepts I have
share, but *test* rather than take what works for me as a perscriptions
for you.
Oh, and other folk find that Alka Setzer Gold (purely baking soda, I'm
told, but the right amout of it - which I've been told is 1/8th of a
teaspoon, which seems to prevent the poisons from being abosrbable also,
but didn't work for *me*) to help a *lot*. GIve it a small test, if you
want, and if it helps, do it as needed; if you exceed moderation, or have
other symptoms, of course see a doctor.
I thank you for reading this - please pass it if you think it could help
someone. Again, I am not a doctor, and these are not doctor
treatments. But they are good places to start looking and thinking about
how to cope with the longer-term results of poisoning, and much of this
has helped folk with malathion poisoning, which is similar.
Most imortant, keep you spirits up (find or make a support group or
e-mailing-list?), because your immune system is very responsive to your
moods. Godd luck. Alondra, with EI/MCS.
