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Eidetic imagery and fantasy prone people/the occult

Xochi Zen x at apocalypse.org
Thu Jun 20 15:24:43 EST 1996


In article <31C96EB9.2E37 at student.uq.edu.au>,
Darren Poulton  <s340222 at student.uq.edu.au> wrote:

>Eidetic Imagery is the 'technical term' for what is commonly known as a photographic 
>memory. The rare individual who posesses this talent also perform amazingly well with 
>imagery tasks. Nowhere in my understanding is Eidetic Imagery linked with imagination.

 Are you a psychologist? I thought there was a difference between the two...
 that photographic memory, erm, referred to the ability to vividly remember
 , in great detail, many things. And that eidetic "imagery" was the ability
 to visualize whatever one wanted to, in great detail. Now, a person who has
 a photographic memory might be able to do both. I'm not a psychologist,
 just an interested amateur. 

 Actually, a full photographic memory isn't a talent, but a curse. 
 Any neuroscientist would know this. People will full photographic 
 memories are not a happy lot. If you hadn't heard this, then you need
 to read more widely on the subject. If one couldn't forget anything...


>> I'm of the suspicion that a good many people who actively practice magic,
>> witchcraft, etc. have eidetic imaginations... 
>
>Oh are you now?

 Suspicion, yes. Which is why I'm posting this message here. Would you 
 prefer that I assert what I don't know?

>What you so casually pass off as 'delusions' are the beliefs of a great many people in 
>this world. How dare you! Your ignorance of a belief system doesn't give you the right 
>to judge its validity. Let me ask what you base your judgement upon.

 A great many people believe they've seen Elvis alive since his death,
 have been abducted by aliens, etc. I'm not referring to witchcraft as
 a feel-good nature religion per se. 

>> One thing I've noticed personally about such people is that they're often
>> obsessed with fantasy literature (i.e. "I've read all of Piers Anthony's
>> 400 novels") and that many happen to be artists.
>
>I enjoy fantasy novels, so do a great many more than 1% to 6% of the population, that's 
>why there's so much of it in the bookstores. I realise that as scientists we must make 
>generalisations, but these generalisations are unfounded, unsound, and unworthy of my 
>further consideration. You are a poor scientist sir (if indeed you are one at all...).

 I'm not a scientist. However, I'd be surprised if you were since you've 
 been reading so carelessly. "One thing I've noticed" is something akin 
 to "hmmm... that's peculiar... I wonder about that." Which is perfectly 
 valid for what it is. You might try popping a few muscle relaxants so
 that your knee won't jerk as much.

>> I need this information for a bibliography of skeptical works on witchcraft,
>> magic, and miracles I've been working on. Any books on how people come to
>> have these odd beliefs are welcome.
>
>A bibliography of skeptical works? Good on you! A sound idea and worthy of my attention, 
>but please restrain yourself from calling my beliefs 'odd'!

 What are these beliefs then? I'm referring to a very narrow range of 
 beliefs. Please let me know what your beliefs are in detail, then I might
 be able to tell you if I still feel that they're odd.

 Do you think you can kill someone at a distance with the power of your
 mind? Move objects with the power of your mind alone? etc.?
 Can you predict the future? (please pass me the next winning lotto #).
 If you don't believe in things like this, then I'm not even interested
 in your particular religious beliefs.

>Sounds as though your study is biased......

 Actually, I'm presenting a little-presented side. There are any number
 of books on witchcraft. Obviously you didn't read the introduction to my
 bibliography. I answer some of your questions there. But apparently you're
 only here to vent, not contribute.

 It's not a study. Please learn to read more carefully.

 - Xochi



-- 
| Xochi Zen        "William James used to preach the 'will to believe.' For   |
| x at apocalypse.org  my part, I should wish to preach the 'will to doubt.' ... |
|		    What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to|
|		    find out, which is the exact opposite" - Bertrand Russell |



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