M. McLeod wrote:
>> Here's that word faith being bandied about. What's faith got to do with
> what I want to call a religion. I have faith my car will start. I have
> faith that I'll get bills. Faith is something you feel you know
> definitely.
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But cars and bills do surprise one now and then.
-Steve
> I definitely know that I don't know therefore I have faith.
> Anyway I'm a reasonist not an agnostic because it has too many
> connotations.
> MM
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Yeah, I guess I am too, except when I run out of reasons, and then it's
nice not to know things for a little while and just float along and
giggle.
-Steve
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> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Steve wrote:
>> > M. McLeod wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Malcolm McMahon wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sure, atheism is a religion. Agnosticism isn't a religion but atheism is
> > > > a positive set of beliefs about the nature of the universe which fits
> > > > any sensible definition of the word.
> > >
> > > By your criterium agnosticism IS a religion. If you read the ng you'd
> > > know
> > > this. Agnostics are POSITIVE that mankind can't positively know whether or
> > > not there is a god nor how the universe was created nor any of the other
> > > things you know-it-alls go on about.
> > > MM
> > -------------------------------------
> > I agree with the last, but religions require an adherence by faith to
> > precepts. I don't believe ANYBODY actually does that, they only LIE
> > about it and internally are as much agnostic as any of us. THEY merely
> > call it their originally sinful nature, whereas we call it good sense
> > and humility.
> >
> > -Steve
