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brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

Bob LeChevalier lojbab at lojban.org
Thu Aug 1 01:33:42 EST 2002


"John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote:
>> >Judging by your attitude and stupidity, you're most likely in the jew Yawk
>> >area,
>>
>> Wrong (as I've told you several times before).
>>
>> >New Jersey
>> >478 = one of the lowest SAT math scores in the country
>> >270 = NAEP math score, one of the lowest in the country
>> >$10,233 = THE highest cost per student per year in the country
>> >
>> >North Dakota
>> >592 = THE *highest* SAT math score in the country
>>
>> Of course only 5% of the students took the test, probably among the
>> brightest 5%
>
>Which is meaningless, since North Dakota ALSO scored in the top 5 on NAEP
>which doesn't have that limitation.

I have no reason to denigrate the citizens of North Dakota.

I'll point out, however, that New Jersey scored above average on NAEP
testing as well.  So SAT and NAEP scores do not necessarily track.

>Only IF you could produce a test which showed that North Dakota scored high
>on SAT only BECAUSE "among the brightest 5%" took the test should you repeat
>this LIE.  And you can't do that, because all the other tests show the same
>pattern.

The correlation between percentage taking the SAT and mean score for
each state is high.  Furthermore, it makes sense that only the
brighter college bound kids who plan to attend college in elite
universities in other states that require the SAT (ND schools do not)
would take the SAT, and they indeed would be expected to score better
than the average kid.

>63% of students in North Dakota took the ACT,

Actually 80%.  YOu apparently cannot read the tables you use for
evidence.

>and they STILL scored at the top, 22.8, with only 4 states scoring higher.

Actually 21.4. which was above the average 21.0 but not extremely so.

>Conversely, "among the
>brightest 4%" of New Jersey's students took ACT, and they scored 21.5, which
>is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

Actually 20.7, which was slightly below the average 21.0

>To use your argument, since only 4%
>of New Jersey's students took ACT, the AVERAGE student in NJ must be WAY
>down the curve (which of course is true, as 21.5 is already at the bottom of
>the curve).

This would be a valid argument if the top universities used the ACT
instead of the SAT, but the ACT is primarily used by Western rural
state universities, which are not the schools that the top students in
the country attend.

>http://www.act.org/news/data/00/00states.html

>> I've posted my SAT scores before when you've tried this game: 666
>> verbal 774 math; total 1440.  So did toto and several other women.
>> Now you post yours, nincompoop.  Let's see you show how much smarter
>> you are than the women here. (Not!)
>
>This is like little girls in a sand box throwing sand at each other,
>complaining that they got sand all over them.  Why don't you pull your head
>out and act, or at least write, like a man?

I've written like a man ever since I became a man.

Men are very competitive.  What were your SAT scores?  Mine were
higher, I am sure!

>Not only is this an irrelevant
>anecdote, not only does it have NOTHING to do with the issue at hand, not
>only does it have NOTHING to do with average test scores, but your
>performance on this forum makes your claim a LIE.  The LEAST you would know
>with such a math score is what an "average" is and quit making such absurd
>statements, but you obviously DO NOT.

I am fully aware what an average is.  Furthermore, I can read a data
table correctly.

Even so, what were your scores?

>> (BTW Fairfax Co VA
>> Year 2000 combined Math/verbal average score 1098 with 84% of seniors
>> tested. (US average 1019))
>
>la, de. .ucking, da.

The so-called-Christian tries to pretend like he isn't cussing.  And
you are telling me to "write like a man"???

>Entire states scored much higher than that.  Alabama scored 1,113.  Even
>Clinton's home state scored 1,112.

Not with 84% of their students taking the test.

>Hint:  The reason Virginia consistently scores so much lower than New Jersey
>on ACT is its high percentage of niggers.

Really?  VA is 20% black, and NJ is 15% black.  Not much difference
(and since only 4% of those in NJ and 9% of those in VA took ACT, the
numbers of black kids who took the test was pretty small).

lojbab



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