-- > parsetree wrote:
> Americans consume things that are not necessities. They also have much
> higher quality homes and many other things.
and "Richard C. August" <raugust at ptd.net> responded:
> Dear Parse Tree,
>> Obviously, you have never been outside the USA.
>> I lived in West Germany, prior to and during the Fall of the Wall. I
> conversed in German with the German people, and was even "allowed" (read:
> INVITED) into their homes). I ate at German restaurants. I shopped
German
> stores and drank at German bars. I can say, with DEAD CERTAINTY, that
> Germany's homes are of MUCH HIGHER quality than US homes, and at a rate at
> parity with German incomes. This is because Germans who study a trade are
> first paid a wage that the German Government says is commensurate with
that
> trade, and second APPRENTICED under a MASTER until they achieve MASTERY of
> their trade, usually taking about 3 to 5 years, often much longer
depending
> on the trade.
>> Translation: German manufacture is much better because their workers are
> more highly educated and more highly skilled than the average American
> laborer, who is often NOT apprenticed and only masters a skill by the seat
> of his pants.
>> In the 1870s-1880s, during King Ludwig II's reign in Bavaria, Ludwig, a
> liberal patron of the arts, commissioned Bavarian chemists to formulate
> outdoor paints which could be used to paint beautiful murals on the sides
of
> prominent buildings, or which could be used to paint in solid colours.
> These chemists went to work, very pleased with the pay they received from
> the King's hand, and formulated outdoor paint which is the STANDARD for
> outdoor paint on German buildings, because this formula lasts for YEARS
> without much maintenance. American chemists could not come up with such a
> formula if it stood on its head and slapped their knees.
>> In the bombing of Dresden, in WW 2, the explosive and incendiary bombs the
> Americans used were 3 TIMES what could have been used in America to
destroy
> American buildings, yet some buildings were still standing even though
they
> were targets. Among the buildings reduced to rubble, the Germans kept
every
> blueprint, and reconstructed those buildings to exact specifications,
using
> the same or similar bricks, mortar, and steel used at the time of
> construction. Can we say the same for the USA? This enabled the GERMANS
to
> not only scrimp and save money in reconstruction, but also to PAY OFF
their
> Marshall Plan debt well in advance of every other nation on the Plan!!!
>> Go take a vacation in Germany, and see their houses and buildings. See
how
> clean and well-kept and litter-free their streets are. Then come back to
> America and vomit over the difference. Ask a German you befriend about
his
> personal savings, then compare that to your own. Be befuddled over how a
> German of modest means can actually save money, while you, a college
> educated and salaried employee, can barely scratch two pennies together.
> Then tell us how great is the USA. Enjoy your vacation, and write us a
> postcard!!
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>> Richard C. August
Having lived in Germany for 9 years, I can confirm that what Mr. August
writes above is true and correct, which is why it's so embarassing when
fellow Americans say such silly things as "Americans ... also have much
higher quality homes and many other things".
The reality is that we are the biggest throw-away society in world history,
we have the ONLY negative personal savings rate in the industrialized (or
even third) world, we are now down to 17th place in per capita income and
dropping fast, each American household already has a net worth of a NEGATIVE
$77,000 [and the debts are still growing incontrollably], yet we still
"think" we're "the world's last superpower" (presumably to justify blowing
up babies in Afghanistan at the behest of jews).
But, Richard, I'm going to raise the stakes on your argument one more notch.
A house I bought in Russia is even better built, more solid, and will last
longer, than just about anything I ever saw in Germany--except King Ludwig's
castles, of course ); It's already 400 years old and looks like it will
last another 2,000 years. There ain't NUTTIN' like this in the US, period.
We have no statistics about what Russia was like before the jews Lenin and
Trotsky were "allowed" to take charge [read: before AMERICAN jew Jacob
Schiff funded them to assassinate the Czar and kill 25-20 million fellow
Christians], but what remains of Russia is truly awesome. Much of what the
Russians built 200 years before this nation was even founded is far superior
to ANYTHING [and I mean ANYTHING] we've ever built, to date, and who knows
what the jews destroyed during their slaughter of up to 50 million fellow
WHITE Christians in Russia.
Is that bad enough? No. There's more. Between 1984 and 1993, a period of
nine years the "median values of holdings" for "own homes" in the US
decreased by 17%, from $56,430 to $46,669. In 1996 the Census Bureau
changed the format for how this asset change was being reported so a
comparison can't be made to prior years, and since 1996 this data hasn't
been reported separately. But if this trend continued, then in 1997 it was
down to $42,120 and in 2000 to $37,240. The increase in the number of
female headed households, whose median net worth is less than $15,000 each,
is one of the primary factors for this loss of household assets.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/wealth/1993/wlth93a.html
The worse thing, Richard--feminazis don't care, couldn't understand even if
they tried, and don't even try.
John Knight
> "Parse Tree" <parsetree at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:AlY19.1458$9g7.263938 at news20.bellglobal.com...> > "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in message
> > news:xGV19.48957$Fq6.4303868 at news2.west.cox.net...> > >
> > > "Parse Tree" <parsetree at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:tpE19.59$9g7.22300 at news20.bellglobal.com...> > > > You have your date set incorrectly.
> > > >
> > > > "John Knight" <johnknight at usa.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8cC19.45114$Fq6.4020271 at news2.west.cox.net...> > > > >
> > > > > So tell us, parsetree, do you think we should believe the
> affirmative
> > > > action
> > > > > hirees at the CIA who pad their figures with "purchasing power
> > parity",
> > > or
> > > > > would you prefer ACCURATE data from independent, industry sources
> > which
> > > > use
> > > > > REAL data?
> > > >
> > > > Corporations use figures that reflect PPP. It costs $299 for a PS2
in
> > > > Canada, and $200 in the US. That's not the literal exchange rate.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This isn't ppp. This is market pricing which is far more complex than
> > ppp,
> > > and has literally noting to do with ppp.
> >
> > Actually, it has a lot to do with PPP. They don't want to price
products
> > out of the consumer's price range.
> >
> > > > > If you want to know how misleading "purchasing power parity"
really
> > is,
> > > > take
> > > > > a look at Asia Week Magazine's "Bottom Line" at
> > > > >
http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/magazine/2000/0818/bottomline.html
> > > >
> > > > Do you honestly think that $783 is an accurate depiction of China's
> GDP
> > > per
> > > > person? I know that in NA you can't live off of that much money in
a
> > > year.
> > > > It's literally impossible.
> > >
> > > No, it's not accurate at all. The REAL average income in China is $25
> per
> > > month, which is more than enough to live comfortably on. I know
> Russians
> > > who went to China so they could earn more money, because after 75
years
> of
> > > being controlled by the jews, the average income of Russians is now
one
> > > third of the Chinese.
> >
> > So you seem to understand PPP with respect to China, but why not Japan?
> >
> > Can you not conceive of a country with goods that cost more to buy than
> > America?
> >
> > > > > To be specific, Japan has a higher GDP per capita than the US, but
> the
> > > CIA
> > > > > and other feminized American sources use ppp to penalize Japan to
> > reduce
> > > > it
> > > > > from $34,715 to $23,480, based on the most senseless excuses, like
> how
> > > > long
> > > > > students are in school, and a whole bunch of irrelevant tricks.
> > > >
> > > > It is incredibly expensive to live in Japan. Just like it is more
> > > expensive
> > > > to live in new york, rather than some little village.
> > >
> > > Yeah, right. If it's "incredibly expensive", then how exactly did the
> > > Japanese manage to put FIFTY ONE PERCENT (51%) of their income into
> > > personal savings in one month. You don't seem to be able to
comprehend
> > the
> > > term
> > > "percent", so let's break it down into something you feminazis may be
> able
> > > to appreciate: American dollars. In just ONE MONTH, the AVERAGE
> Japanese
> > > household ADDED another 554,351 yen to their personal savings
accounts,
> > the
> > > equivalent of $5,039.
> > > http://christianparty.net/japan1999income.htm> > >
> > > Do you understand how weak your argument about their "high prices" is?
> >
> > Americans consume things that are not necessities. They also have much
> > higher quality homes and many other things.
> >
> > You know it's somewhat easy to survive on $10 000 a year, and yet many
> > people make more than that and spend more.
> >
> >
> > > > > The CIA doesn't report ANY data correctly, as they always use this
> ppp
> > > and
> > > > > other "tricks" [read: LIES] in their reports. Where they report
> > > > > Switzerland's GDP to be $22,600, their REAL GDP per capita is
> $37,145,
> > > > much
> > > > > higher than ours at $28,600. Germany is penalized $3,000 for
WHAT?
> > > Their
> > > > > cost of living certainly isn't higher, though their savings rate
of
> > 22%
> > > is
> > > > > literally *infinitely* higher than ours, since our personal
savings
> > rate
> > > > is
> > > > > NEGATIVE after all the interest on the humongous debts is paid.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://christianparty.net/bottomline.htm> > > > >
> > > > > http://christianparty.net/personalsavings.htm> > > > >
> > > > > The countries with the highest per capita incomes, like Kuwait and
> > > Qatar,
> > > > > aren't even on these lists. Why not? What does "planet101" hope
to
> > > hide
> > > > > from you? Lookit how easy it is to LIE to you with statistics.
> > > >
> > > > "Purchasing-Power Parity (PPP) takes into account price differences
> > > between
> > > > countries to provide a more accurate picture of national wealth"
> > > > From your vaunted Christian Party website. It seems even they
> > understand
> > > > PPP.
> > >
> > > What ppp does NOT take into account is far more important than what it
> > DOES
> > > take into account. It does NOT take into account that the Japanese
pay
> > only
> > > 9.9% for taxes, yet they get dinged for having shorter school hours
than
> > us
> > > (even though they scored 105 TIMSS math points higher at the 8th grade
> > > level). It does NOT take into account that they SAVED ANOTHER $5,039
in
> > > JUST ONE MONTH, but dinged them for their "high
> > > prices".
> > >
> > > ppp is a complete and total jewish con job, just like cpi is.
> >
> > No, it's not. You can't just blame anything that demonstrates you to be
> > completely and utterly wrong on the Jews.
> >
> > > > > The fact that we have a NEGATIVE personal savings rate means that
we
> > > have
> > > > NO
> > > > > private ownership of property, because the state now owns it all,
> and
> > > you
> > > > > don't even realize it. This is FAR more important to determining
> who
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > "rich country" and who is not than "purchasing power parity".
> > > >
> > > > So now the United States has no private ownership?
> > > >
> > > > You just don't stop, do you?
> > > >
> > >
> > > To have a "constitution" which calls for private property ownership at
> one
> > > end, and a government which takes so much of incomes that we have a
> > NEGATIVE
> > > personal savings rate at the other end, makes the mere concept of
> "private
> > > property" a sick joke.
> > >
> > > Don't rely just on this comparison to Japan. NO country, not even
> > > non-industrialized countries, have NEGATIVE personal savings rates.
Go
> > down
> > > the list http://christianparty.net/bottomline.htm . Singapore saves
52%.
> > > Even Vietnam has a 7% savings rate, but they don't spend all of this
> > paying
> > > off HUGE debts, like the ones we have. Even Kenya saves 21%. South
> Korea
> > > saves 35%, and their debt is minimal compared to their savings.
> Thailand
> > > saves 37%.
> >
> > Not even the US, according to that list. You save 15%.
> >
> > Also, I looked at the GDP growth listed on that page for Canada, and it
> > doesn't match the GDP growth given by any of the pages that are
> referenced.
> >
> > > We threw King George out over a 1% "tea tax", then implemented so many
> > other
> > > taxes that 43% of every American wage dollar is SPENT by government.
> > > Feminazis just don't seem to understand, or at least appreciate, that
> this
> > > process takes so much out of an American workers' income that he has
to
> > > borrow ever more money just to pay it.
> >
> > You really seem to inflate the number of goods that people need in order
> to
> > live.
> >
> >
> >
>>
