In alt.education Re: brain sizes: Einstein's and women's,
Bob LeChevalier wrote...
>You can't find sufficient Bible verses to selectively interpret to
>make your case, so you turn to non-Scriptural writings. The mere fact
>that Protestantism doesn't accept the Catholic catechism, and
>Catholics don't accept the Protestant document, shows that these are
>political representations of different factions.
The fact that any Protestant or Catholic which posses the tiniest amount
of common sense, would defend the lives of his family and even himself
with a gun, doesn't really need scriptural support. But for those who
have less than the aformentioned amount of common sense (which would
include you) there is scriptural support as historically documented.
Onward a bit....
>>Jesus advised his disciples to arm themselves in
>>view of likely persecution. Luke 22:36"
>>More selective Bible verse, twisted to serve your purposes. Let's
>look at the entire passage:
>>>[34] And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.
>>[35] And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
>>[36] Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
>>[37] For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
>>[38] And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
>[snip]
>Continuing, we see what the swords were intended for:
>>[49] When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword?
>>[50] And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.
>>[51] And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.
>>And if this isn't clear, we turn to Matt 26 for the parallel account:
>>[51] And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear.
>>[52] Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
>>[53] Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
>>And we see that Jesus was most certainly NOT commanding that they use
>the swords 'in view of likely persecution' "for all they that take the
>sword shall perish with the sword".
>>See what I mean - selective Bible quotation to prove your point,
>ignoring that which does not support you. (But I don't call you a
>liar, merely self-blinded.)
Not true. I selectively quoted Samuel Rutherford who quoted Jesus in
his book LEX REX, hoping that you'd realize Christians have been
pondering this issue for centuries, but obviously it went right over
your head. I've come to realize you may actually be FOR an unseparated
Church/State which upholds your version of religion whereby the innocent
get aborted, criminals (which the ACLU can't get off the hook) get
pampered, tutored and soon released upon a gunless society.
Had you known Rutherford was strictly opposed to European Monarchial
Tyrants, and laid down a Biblical foundation for limiting the power of
government, you would'nt have been so quick to render that faulty
analysis of my message. The title of the aforementioned book LEX REX is
latin for "The Law Is King", and the book explains Rutherfords position
against the doctrine which at the time was known as "The Divine Rights
of Kings". In a nutshell, that was the empowering doctrine for the
Monarchial English government of Tyrants, which means Rutherford (though
a preacher) was a forerunner of sorts to all those political leaders
here in the US (colonies) who agreed with our Declaration of
Independance and it's unilateral rejection of tyranny. The Monarchy
hated Rutherford so much that they wanted to burn him at the stake, but
he died before they could roast him alive so they dug up his body when
they found where he was buried, and burned it.
Isn't that about the way you feel about fundies?
Jd
