JDay123 at BellSouth.com (Jd) wrote:
>In alt.education Re: brain sizes: Einstein's and women's,
>Bob LeChevalier wrote...
>>Now I don't pretend to know the Bible half as well as you (which is
>>why I say "self-blinded" and not "ignorant", though maybe I should say
>>that we are all "ignorant", I Cor. 13:9-12); I don't habituate the
>>Bible study newsgroups and I do my studies on my own with all the
>>limitations that inherently result. You can no doubt come up with
>>dozens of interpretations to support your case, and those who disagree
>>with you can come up with just as many to oppose you, as I just did.
>>Who is to judge? I'm certainly not going to trust YOU to do so.
>>>>Anyone who thinks that the Bible gives definitive answers on political
>>matters is fooling themselves.
>>For years I've quoted the following (on many occaisions) in cyber forums
>in support of governmental authority and the notion of governments being
>responsible for upholding the golden rule:
>>Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there
>is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
>>Yet to my surprise I can only think of 1 person over the years who
>related that to the old "Divine Rights of Kings" doctrine (which is a
>valid point btw).
Funny, but if you hadn't said it, I was going to myself. So much for
defending yourself against the government which is ordained by God.
>At any rate, you might think that the Apostle Paul in penning such a
>concept on authority in Romans chapter 13, would strictly adhere to such
>a thing wouldn't you? Especially if your stuck in "Divine Rights of
>Kings" mode as Euroman often is. But he didn't in light of the freedom
>of choice with respect to defense of his life. Simply put, he, like
>Jesus, escaped from authorities who were trying to kill him because his
>time to die had not yet come.
>>2Corinthians 11:32-33 "In Damascus the governor under Aretas the king
>kept the city of the Damascenes with a garrison, desirous to apprehend
>me: And through a window in a basket was I let down by the wall, and
>escaped his hands."
>>In other words Paul, like Jesus, gave his life when the time came and
>not one minute before.
And the point of this is? If he had died in Damascus, then THAT would
have been "his time".
>However, it's obvious to me that you're more than willing to let
>politicians decide political things without being challenged by freedom
>thinking religious individuals,
Really? And where do you get the idea that I have a problem with
"freedom thinking religious individuals" challenging politicians
deciding political things?
>in order to fulfill their "Divine
>Rights" which you hope will squelch the voice of freedom.
What a convoluted bunch of hooey you accuse me of favoring! Too bad
it is all in your imagination.
>Meanwhile,
>you run the risk of forfeiting the power of the inheritance and the
>associated faith which is meted out by the Authorizer, who is sitting on
>the power side of the Throne of God.
Only if you do as well.
lojbab
