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brain sizes: Einstein's and women's

Bob LeChevalier lojbab at lojban.org
Tue Aug 13 22:18:06 EST 2002


"blujuju" <blujuju at hotmail.com> wrote:
>: Mr. Jefferson wrote in his own hand, numerous times, "I am a real
>: Christian".
>
>Show me. And references to christianparty.net will not be acceptable
>sources, nor other christian based websites. They're biased.

See my post in response to Nagy.  Jefferson used those words, but the
nincompoop took them out of context which indicated that he meant
something quite different from what the 4 words alone imply.

Note that one of the nincompoop's quotes of Jefferson actually
devastates his own case, though he probably lacks the wit to
understand it.  I've excised a few lines in the middle, but people can
go back to the prior posts to read them if they care.  (And there are
places where you can read the whole body of Jefferson's writings with
no context deleted

>: Thomas Jefferson on Calvinism
>:
>: "Calvin's character of this supreme being seems chiefly copied from that of
>: the Jews."
>:
>: "The truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines of Jesus are those
>: calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted them for the
>: structure of a system of fancy absolutely incomprehensible, and without any
>: foundation in his genuine words."

...

>All
>: things were created by it, and without it was made not one thing which was
>: made'. Yet this text, so plainly declaring the doctrine of Jesus that the
>: world was created by the supreme, intelligent being, has been perverted by
>: modern Christians to build up a second person of their tritheism by a
>: mistranslation of the word {logos}."

So all of the Christian ministers (and especially Calvinists, which
include several major denominations of Protestants) are equated with
the Jews he hates, and who Jefferson claims perverted the teachings of
Christ.  He then at the end explicitly denounces the concept of Christ
and the Trinity as a "perversion" of His doctrine.

A cogent summary of what Jefferson probably DID believe based on his
quotes can be found at:
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_remsburg/six_historic_americans/chapter_2.html

including the following quote from Jefferson:
>"Of this band of dupes and impostors, Paul was the great Corypheus,
> and first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus" (Ibid.).

A Christian?  Judge for yourself, but don't believe the nincompoop.

lojbab



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