"Insomniac" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote in message
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> > The following reference to "Saul" is actually to the Israelite Paul.
Why
> > did "the jews" take an oath to kill him?
> > Act 9:22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the
Jews
> > which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.
> > Act 9:23 And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel
> to
> > kill him:
> > Act 9:24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the
> > gates day and night to kill him.
> > Act 9:25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let him down by the
> wall
> > in a basket.
>> Again:
> ===
> Main Entry: Jew
> Pronunciation: 'jü
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English, from Old French gyu, from Latin Judaeus, from
> Greek Ioudaios, from Hebrew YehudhI, from YehudhAh Judah, Jewish kingdom
> Date: 13th century
> 1 a : a member of the tribe of Judah b : ISRAELITE
> 2 : a member of a nation existing in Palestine from the 6th century B.C.
to
> the 1st century A.D.
> 3 : a person belonging to a continuation through descent or conversion of
> the ancient Jewish people
> 4 : one whose religion is Judaism
> ===
> Main Entry: 1Is·ra·el·ite
> Pronunciation: 'iz-r(E-)&-"lIt
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin Israelita, from Greek
IsraElitEs,
> from IsraEl
> Date: 14th century
> : a descendant of the Hebrew patriarch Jacob; specifically : a native or
> inhabitant of the ancient northern kingdom of Israel
> ========
> You can believe what you want but the fact still remains that the
Israelites
> being discussed (including Paul) were JEWS by heritage.
> --
> The Shadow Dancer
> aka Insomniac
> irc.peacefulhaven.net
> Lifetime member of MEOWS, NHOFB, PLOW and SWWOP
> When you mess with dragons - you get burnt!
>>
This isn't consistent with the Holy Bible. No member of the Tribe of Judah
is ever referred to as a "jew", nor is a resident of Judaea ever referred to
as a jew, unless they were a jew.
All members of the Tribe of Judah, and every one of the other Twelve Tribes
of Israel, are always referred to as Israelites. And jews cannot be
Israelites for the very simple reason that the children of any Israelite who
ever married a jew, and the jew they married, were tossed out of the
community and never considered to be Israelites.
Just like we're doing right now.
Your definition of "jew" above is suspect. Where did it come from? Here's
Strong's defintion, where "jew" is Strong's # 3064:
H3064
??????
yehu^di^y
yeh-hoo-dee'
Patronymic from H3063; a Jehudite (that is, Judaite or Jew), or descendant
of Jehudah : - Jew.
The Hebrew word "Yhudiy" is anglicized as "jehudah" and appears in the Old
Testament 109 times, and it never refers to anyone except "Yhudiy" or his
descendants. The word "jew" is translated from the Greek word Ioudaios 190
times, and it never references anyone other than "Yhudiy" or his
descendants:
G2453
??????????
Ioudaios
ee-oo-dah'-yos
>From G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country); udaean, that is, belonging
to Jehudah: - Jew
Your definition of "Israelite" is correct. The Israelites' patriarch was
Judah, they were Hebrews, and they lived in the northern kingdom of Israel,
except that the word "Israel" always refers to Jacob and his descendants (to
the people) rather than to the land.
But jews lived in Canaan, their patriarch was "Yhudiy", and they were not
Hebrews [read: descendants of Eber], nor Semites [read: descendants of
Shem], nor Israelites [read: descendants of Jacob].
"Yhudiy" was a descendant of the Cushi, or Cushites, who are now the Negroid
jews in Ethiopia. Cush, after whom the territory called Cushi was named,
was a descendant of Ham, a brother of Shem. The other branch of jews are
the "Ashkenazi jews" who were descendants of Ashkenaz, who was a descendant
of Japeth, another brother of Shem. It's much easier to follow diagrams
rather than words and http://christianparty.net/noahgenealogy.htm contains
links to others who've taken the time to go through the Holy Bible and chart
it all out (and they all match).
The sleight of hand that the jews use to try to confuse the issue is to
claim that both Judah and Jehudi are the same person, but the Holy Bible is
replete with proof that this cannot be true.
John Knight
