"Insomniac" <insomniac at winterslight.org> wrote in message
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> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
> news:lpO99.4995$Ic7.528921 at news2.west.cox.net...> > <bard at dmcom.net> wrote in message news:3D678147.A7B at dmcom.net...> > > Insomniac wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Have any of you other people heard of this "Yhudiy"? I'm gonna
> forward
> > this
> > > > entire post to an expert friend of mine. In the meantime - Bob?
Doc?
> > You
> > > > both know the Bible, and the history of Christianity very well.
> Explain
> > to
> > > > me what this is all about.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Well web and group search does not appear to indicate the world widely
> > > known, 30 hits in groups, most this thread. On web 4 hits an hotmail
> > > address and pages related to MP3 downloads. I could run a search
though
> > > boble gateway, but do not believe it is worth the effort.
> > >
> >
> > Look in the Holy Bible where Yehudiy's are referred to no less than 200
> > times, and members of the Tribe of Judah are referred to no less than
700
> > times. Never once will you find these two different "birth groups" [in
> the
> > "liberal" lexicon] confused with each other. The following is just one
> > example:
> >
> > Jer 40:11 Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the
> > Ammonites, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that
the
> > king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over
them
> > Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan;
>> <snipped a repeat of stuff nobody else can corroborate>
>> Just one question. Are you a Jehovah's Witness or some other splinter
> group? Because nobody's concordance nor Bible contains this word, other
> than yours.
>> JW's and other offshoots rewrite their Bibles slightly; they aren't true
to
> the "mainstream" KJV translation. You have to be looking at a Bible from
a
> splinter group....
>> ...of course, we've already abundantly determined that you are a splinter,
> all by yourself.
Ah, another demonstration of "women's intuition", eh?
You're batting a 100 so far. 100% incorrect. You haven't made a single
valid point in your life, have you?
Following are 14 different translations of Jeremiah 36:14, most of which are
credible, some of which are accepted as the final Word of God, and not a
single one of which supports your suggestion that this is the narrow
"opinion" of "Jehovah's Witness or some other splinter group", a "Bible
from a splinter group", or some other wayward "religion":
(ASV) Therefore all the princes sent Jehudi the son of Nethaniah, the son
of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, unto Baruch, saying, Take in thy hand the
roll wherein thou hast read in the ears of the people, and come. So Baruch
the son of Neriah took the roll in his hand, and came unto them.
(BBE) So all the rulers sent Jehudi, the son of Nethaniah, the son of
Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, to Baruch, saying, Take in your hand the book
from which you have been reading to the people and come. So Baruch, the son
of Neriah, took the book in his hand and came down to them.
(CEV) Then the officials sent Jehudi and Shelemiah to tell Baruch, "Bring
us that scroll." When Baruch arrived with the scroll,
(Darby) And all the princes sent Jehudi the son of Nethaniah, the son of
Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, unto Baruch, saying, Take in thy hand the roll
in which thou hast read in the ears of the people, and come. And Baruch the
son of Nerijah took the roll in his hand, and came unto them.
(DRB) Therefore all the princes sent Judi the son of Nathanias, the son of
Selemias, the son of Chusi, to Baruch, saying: Take in thy hand the volume
in which thou hast read in the hearing of the people, and come. So Baruch
the son of Nerias took the volume in his hand, and came to them.
(GNB) Then the officials sent Jehudi (the son of Nethaniah, grandson of
Shelemiah, and great-grandson of Cushi) to tell Baruch to bring the scroll
that he had read to the people. Baruch brought them the scroll.
(GW) Then all the officials sent Jehudi, who was the son of Nethaniah, the
grandson of Shelemiah, and the great-grandson of Cushi, to Baruch. Jehudi
said to Baruch, "Bring the scroll that you read publicly, and come with me."
Baruch, son of Neriah, took the scroll and went with him to see the
officers.
(KJV) Therefore all the princes sent Jehudi the son of Nethaniah, the son
of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, unto Baruch, saying, Take in thine hand the
roll wherein thou hast read in the ears of the people, and come. So Baruch
the son of Neriah took the roll in his hand, and came unto them.
(KJV+) Therefore all3605 the princes8269 sent7971 (853) Jehudi3065 the
son1121 of Nethaniah,5418 the son1121 of Shelemiah,8018 the son1121 of
Cushi,3570 unto413 Baruch,1263 saying,559 Take3947 in thine hand3027 the
roll4039 wherein834 thou hast read7121 in the ears241 of the people,5971 and
come.1980 So Baruch1263 the son1121 of Neriah5374 took3947 (853) the
roll4039 in his hand,3027 and came935 unto413 them.
(KJVA) Therefore all the princes sent Jehudi the son of Nethaniah, the son
of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, unto Baruch, saying, Take in thine hand the
roll wherein thou hast read in the ears of the people, and come. So Baruch
the son of Neriah took the roll in his hand, and came unto them.
(RSV) Then all the princes sent Jehu'di the son of Nethani'ah, son of
Shelemi'ah, son of Cushi, to say to Baruch, "Take in your hand the scroll
that you read in the hearing of the people, and come." So Baruch the son of
Neri'ah took the scroll in his hand and came to them.
(WEB) Therefore all the princes sent Jehudi the son of Nethaniah, the son
of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, to Baruch, saying, Take in your hand the
scroll in which you have read in the ears of the people, and come. So Baruch
the son of Neriah took the scroll in his hand, and came to them.
(Webster) Therefore all the princes sent Jehudi the son of Nethaniah, the
son of Shelemiah, the son of Cushi, to Baruch, saying, Take in thy hand the
roll in which thou hast read in the ears of the people, and come. So Baruch
the son of Neriah took the roll in his hand, and came to them.
(YLT) and all the heads send unto Baruch, Jehudi son of Nethaniah, son of
Shelemiah, son of Cushi, saying, `The roll in which thou hast read in the
ears of the people take in thy hand, and come.' And Baruch son of Neriah
taketh the roll in his hand and cometh in unto them,
Count them. How many of them support your "opinion"? NONE?
How did we know that you'd be DEAD WRONG, once again?
It's easy. "Women's intuition". It works every time. It's called
"negative knowledge".
Let's look at Jeremiah 40:11 and see if any version supports your point:
(ASV) Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the children
of Ammon, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that the
king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them
Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan;
(BBE) In the same way, when all the Jews who were in Moab and among the
children of Ammon and in Edom and in all the countries, had news that the
king of Babylon had let Judah keep some of its people and that he had put
over them Gedaliah, the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan;
(CEV) Earlier, when the Babylonians had invaded Judah, many of the Jews
escaped to Moab, Ammon, Edom, and several other countries. But these Jews
heard that the king of Babylonia had appointed Gedaliah as ruler of Judah,
and that only a few people were left there. So the Jews in these other
countries came back to Judah and helped with the grape and fruit harvest,
which was especially large that year.
(Darby) Likewise all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the children of
Ammon and in Edom, and that were in all the lands, heard that the king of
Babylon had left a remnant in Judah, and that he had appointed over them
Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan;
(DRB) Moreover all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the children of
Ammon, and in Edom, and in all the countries, when they heard that the king
of Babylon had left a remnant in Judea, and that he had made Godolias the
son of Ahicam the son of Saphan ruler over them:
(GNB) Meanwhile, all the Israelites who were in Moab, Ammon, Edom, and
other countries, heard that the king of Babylonia had allowed some
Israelites to stay on in Judah and that he had made Gedaliah their governor.
(GW) Now, all the Jews who were in Moab, Ammon, Edom, and in all the other
countries heard that the king of Babylon had left a few survivors in Judah
and had appointed Gedaliah, son of Ahikam and grandson of Shaphan, to govern
them.
(KJV) Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the
Ammonites, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that the
king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them
Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan;
(KJV+) Likewise1571 when all3605 the Jews3064 that834 were in Moab,4124 and
among the Ammonites,1121, 5983 and in Edom,123 and that834 were in all3605
the countries,776 heard8085 that3588 the king4428 of Babylon894 had left5414
a remnant7611 of Judah,3063 and that3588 he had set6485 over5921 them (853)
Gedaliah1436 the son1121 of Ahikam296 the son1121 of Shaphan;8227
(KJVA) Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the
Ammonites, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that the
king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them
Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan;
(RSV) Likewise, when all the Jews who were in Moab and among the Ammonites
and in Edom and in other lands heard that the king of Babylon had left a
remnant in Judah and had appointed Gedali'ah the son of Ahi'kam, son of
Shaphan, as governor over them,
(WEB) Likewise when all the Jews who were in Moab, and among the children
of Ammon, and in Edom, and who were in all the countries, heard that the
king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them
Gedaliah the son of Ahikam, the son of Shaphan;
(Webster) Likewise when all the Jews that were in Moab, and among the
Ammonites, and in Edom, and that were in all the countries, heard that the
king of Babylon had left a remnant of Judah, and that he had set over them
Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan;
(YLT) And also all the Jews who are in Moab, and among the sons of Ammon,
and in Edom, and who are in all the lands, have heard that the king of
Babylon hath given a remnant to Judah, and that he hath appointed over them
Gedaliah son of Ahikam, son of Shaphan,
Nope. Wrong again.
John Knight
