"John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
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>> "Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote in message
> news:hmg9muk32u5abor4vbf4lv0ahu5n55jve4 at 4ax.com...> > "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote:
> > >A fellow officer got a Gold Medal at an Olympic event. There was
another
> > >Gold Medal winner in the same event who got a Gold Medal, who scored
32%
> > >higher. There were 9 other men in this event who all scored more than
> 30%
> > >higher; one got a Silver Medal, one got a Bronze Medal, and 7 got no
> medals.
> > >
> > >I'll bet you know why this fellow officer got a Gold medal, while the 7
> > >contestants who scored more than 30% higher got no medal?
> >
> > They were in different competitions. You've already pulled this
> > Olympic diving stuff out before. Olympic diving is rated by judges
> > subjectively, and on different parameters for the two genders. If
> > they wanted head to head competition, there would be head to head
> > competition.
> >
> > lojbab
>> And you know why "they" don't want "head to head competition", right?
Women
> wouldn't get one single Gold Medal, would they?
>> Many of the judges in these events are women, and they use the same
standard
> to judge both sexes. The only Olympic event that uses a different
standard
> is the shot put. The men't shot put is twice the weight of the women's
shot
> put (16 vs. 8 pounds), and still men outperform women by more than 30%
(71.2
> vs. 54.64 feet).
>>http://christianparty.net/gendergap3.gif>>http://christianparty.net/genddiff.htm>> Think about that. Men throw a piece of metal that's TWICE the weight of
the
> one women throw, and still they score more than 30% higher than women.
>
Just to set the record straight, if we really had "head to head competition"
between men and women in the Olympics, and made only TWO exceptions, that
men throw a discus and a shot put that's twice the weight of women, women
would STILL get almost no Gold Medals.
In the last 20 years, they would have gotten only ONE Gold Medal in shot
put, and 4 in discus, PERIOD:
1980 men = 66.64m, women = 69.96m
1984 men = 66.6m, women = 65.36m
1988 men = 68.82m, women = 72.3m
1992 men = 65.12m, women = 70.06m
1996 men = 69.4m, women = 69.66m
You claimed that discus was an example where women outperformed men in the
Olympics, but IGNORED that the man's discus weighs twice as much as the
women's.
Why? Did you think you would get away with it? Or were you confused? Did
you not know about this two fold difference in the weight of the discus?
Even so, look at how close the distances were. Even after giving women an
UNFAIR two fold advantage which no other "birth group" had, they STILL
couldn't beat the men in 1984, and the amount by which they "beat" the men
in 1996 was .26 meters: less than 0.4%.
Isn't it interesting that men still beat women even after women were given
"affirmative action" of 2X?
No, it's revealing. It's a precise example of what happened in the American
labor force when women were given this type of "advantage" with affirmative
action, and American family purchasing power plunged by two thirds. It
improved nothing, and cost much. It trivialized the accomplishments of men,
and it started an unnecessary gender war in which women were the biggest
losers.
John Knight
