On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:36:27 GMT, "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com>
yelled from the fourth floor ward window, and subsequently was
sedated:
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*>"Chive Mynde" <are_chive_mind at yahoo.com> wrote in message
*>news:c71e84dc.0208280212.73e8b83f at posting.google.com...
*>> "John Knight" <jwknight at polbox.com> wrote in message
*>news:vlPa9.14084$Ic7.1317648 at news2.west.cox.net...
*>>
*>> > 1962: Engel v. Vitale. The Court ruled that public
*>> > school officials could not require pupils to recite a slate-
*>> > composed prayer at the start of each school day, even if the
*>> > prayer was nondenominational and pupils who so desired
*>> > could be excused from reciting it, because such official
*>> > state sanction of religious unerances was an unconsitu-
*>> > tional attempt to establish religion.
*>> >
*>> >
*>> > This was called "BANNING SCHOOL PRAYER".
*>> >
*>> > It violated almost two centuries of "case law" to the contrary.
*>> >
*>> > It was 180 degrees out of synch with the spirit and intent of
the US
*>> > Constitution, and of the dreams of our Christian Founding
Forefathers.
*>> >
*>> > It was the STUPIDEST thing this country ever did.
*>> >
*>> > It was followed by a 98 point drop in SAT scores which left the
US dead
*>last
*>> > in 17 of 34 TIMSS subjects, more than a quintupling of our
illigetemacy
*>and
*>> > incarceration rates, and more than a doubling of the murder and
divorce
*>> > rates.
*>>
*>> Questionable Cause: This fallacy occurs when an arguer gives
*>> insufficient evidence for a claim that one thing is the cause of
*>> another. You should recognize the following instances of
Questionable
*>> Cause:
*>>
*>> o Post hoc fallacy: This fallacy occurs when an arguer assumes,
*>> without adequate reason, that because one event precedes another,
that
*>> the first event was the cause of the second.
*>>
*>> o Mere correlation fallacy: This fallacy occurs when an arguer
*>> assumes, without adequate reason, that because two conditions or
*>> events regularly occur together, that there must be a causal
*>> relationship between them.
*>>
*>> o Oversimplified cause fallacy: This fallacy occurs when an arguer
*>> assumes, without sufficient evidence, that a single condition or
event
*>> is the sole cause of some effect, when there are in fact other
*>> contributing causes.
*>>
*>>
*>> John, get thee to a psychiatrist.
*>>
*>> -=Chive
*>
*>
*>Isn't it interesting how "liberals" always resort to ad hominems,
even after
*>they pretend to submit an articulate rebuttal?
*>
*>Your rebuttal is stupid anyway, which may be why you threw in the ad
*>hominem--to cover the deficiencies of your rebuttal.
*>
*>It's true that there are other factors involved, and that the
mindset
*>involved in banning spoken Christian prayer in public schools may
have been
*>just a subset of a larger problem--but then this is the original
point.
*>
*>This observation isn't novel, at all. The correlation was written
about
*>NUMEROUS times in the Holy Bible, thousands of years ago. And the
*>regularity with which these predictions come true makes it amazing
that an
*>entire culture can continue to repeat the same mistakes, eon after
eon.
*>
Actually, the Holy Bible does NOT advocate prayers in public school.
Matthew 6
5 And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to
pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen
by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to
your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in
secret, will reward you.
*>John Knight
*>
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