<bard at dmcom.net> wrote in message news:3D6FD56D.7A41 at dmcom.net...
> Insomniac wrote:
>> >
> > Treaty of Tripoli, 1797, carried unanimously by the Senate:
>>http://www.senate.gov/learning/brief_4.html provides an over view of
> treaties, and does not indicate that "Treaty of Tripoli, 1797" has ever
> been changed or negated (there is no reference to it at all, though
> there are references to some treaties disputed or over riden)
>
This is the typical feminazi mass hysteria which those 3 1/2
billion-brain-cell-limited minds produce that have nothing to do with
anything.
So John Adams told the Muslims in Tripoli, who were known to behead
Christians at the time, that the US wasn't a Christian nation? So what?
Are the Tripolites going to attack us because Adams exercised a little
diplomacy-on-the-fly--and saved his head? No.
Did he agree to burn all the Bibles? No.
Does this discredit all the other things John Adams wrote about this
Christian nation? No. Was John Adams a Muslim or a jew? NO!
He was a Christian, just like all our other Founding Forefathers:
http://christianparty.net/foundingfathers.htm
John Adams
July 4, 1774
"We went to meeting at Wells and had the pleasure of hearing my friend upon
"Be not partakers in other men's sins. Keep yourselves pure.
"We...took our horses to the meeting in the afternoon and heard the minister
again upon "Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all
these things shall be added unto you." There is great pleasure in hearing
sermons so serious, so clear, so sensible and instructive as these ...."
October 9, 1774
"This day I went to Dr. Allison's meeting in the afternoon, and heard the
Dr. Francis Allison . . . give a good discourse upon the Lord's Supper ....
I had rather go to Church. We have better sermons, better prayers, better
speakers, softer, sweeter music, and genteeler company. And I must confess
that the Episcopal church is quite as agreeable to my taste as the
Presbyterian.... I like the Congregational way best, next to that the
Independent...."
1754
"It is the duty of the clergy to accommodate their discourses to the times,
to preach against such sins as are most prevalent, and recommend such
virtues as are most wanted. For example, if exorbitant ambition and venality
are predominant, ought they not to warn their hearers against those vices?
If public spirit is much wanted, should they not inculcate this great
virtue? If the rights and duties of Christian magistrates and subjects are
disputed, should they not explain them, show their nature, ends,
limitations, and restrictions, how muchsoever it may move the gall of
Massachusetts."
June 21, 1776
"Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is
Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which
Freedom can securely stand.
"The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this
cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it
now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will
not obtain a lasting liberty."
July 1, 1776
"Before God, I believe the hour has come. My judgement approves this
measure, and my whole heart is in it. All that I have, and all that I am,
and all that I hope in this life, I am now ready here to stake upon it. And
I leave off as I began, that live or die, survive or perish, I am for the
Declaration. It is my living sentiment, and by the blessing of God it shall
be my dying sentiment. Independence now, and Independence for ever!"
In a July 1, 1776 letter to Archibald Bullock, former member of the
Continental Congress from Georgia, Adams wrote:
"The object is great which We have in View, and We must expect a great
expense of blood to obtain it. But We should always remember that a free
Constitution of civil Government cannot be purchased at too dear a rate as
there is nothing, on this side (of) the New Jerusalem, of equal importance
to Mankind."
July 3, 1776
"The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the
history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by
succeeding generations as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be
commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God
Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games,
sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end ofthis
continent to the other, from this time forward forever.
"You will think me transported with enthusiasm, but I am not. I am well
aware of the toil and blood and treasure that it will cost to maintain this
Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet through all the gloom
I can see the rays of ravishing light and glory I can see that the end is
worth more than all the means; that posterity will triumph in that day's
transaction, even though we [may regret] it, which I trust in God we shall
not."
In concern for his sons, John Adams advised his wife Abigail to:
"Let them revere nothing but Religion, Morality and Liberty."
Oct. 11, 1798 (Address to the military)
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human
passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or
gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale
goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious
people. It is wholly inadequate to the government ofany other."
On March 6, 1799, President John Adams called for a National Fast Day.
"As no truth is more clearly taught in the Volume of Inspiration, nor any
more fully demonstrated by the experience of all ages, than that a deep
sense and a due acknowledgement of the growing providence of a Supreme Being
and of the accountableness of men to Him as the searcher of hearts and
righteous distributer of rewards and punishments are conducive equally to
the happiness ofindividuals and to the well-being of communities....
"I have thought proper to recommend, and I hereby recommend accordingly,
that Thursday, the twenty-fifth day of April next, be observed throughout
the United States of America as a day of solemn humiliation, fasting and
prayer; that the citizens on that day abstain, as far as may be, from their
secular occupation, and devote the time to the sacred duties of religion, in
public and in private; that they call to mind our numerous offenses against
the most high God, confess them before Him with the sincerest penitence,
implore his pardoning mercy, through the Great Mediator and Redeemer, for
our past transgressions, and that through the grace of His Holy Spirit, we
may be disposed and enabled to yield a more suitable obedience to his
righteous requisitions in time to come; that He would interpose to arrest
the progress of that impiety and licentiousness in principle and practice so
offensive to Himself and so ruinous to mankind; that He would make us deeply
sensible that "righteousness exalteth a nation but sin is a reproach to any
people" (Proverbs 14:34)"
On November 2, 1800, John Adams became the first president to move into the
White House. As he was writing a letter to his wife, he composed a beautiful
prayer, which was later engraved upon the mantel in the state dining room:
"I pray Heaven to bestow THE BEST OF BLESSINGS ON THIS HOUSE and All that
shall hereafter Inhabit it, May none but Honest and Wise Men ever rule under
This Roof."
August 28, 1811
"Religion and virtue are the only foundations, not only of all free
government, but of social felicity under all governments and in all the
combinations of human society."
June 28, 1813
"Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general
Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence
and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of liberty, are as
unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."
In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, John Adams wrote:
"Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly
corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue,
there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches
from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how
to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance,
vice and folly?...I believe no effort in favor is lost..."
In a letter dated November 4, 1816, John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson:
"The Ten Commandments and the Sermon on the Mount contain my religion..."
December 27, 1816
"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation."
"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people,
who have...a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right
to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean the character and
conduct of their rulers."
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John Quincy Adams
"Duty is ours; results are God's."
September, 1811, in a letter to his son:
"I have myself, for many years, made it a practice to read through the Bible
once ever year.... My custom is, to read four to five chapters every morning
immediately after rising from my bed. I employs about an hour of my
time...."
July 4, 1821
"The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one
indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of
Christianity.
"From the day of the Declaration...they (the American people) were bound by
the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of The Gospel, which they
nearly all, acknowledge as the rules of their conduct."
July 4, 1837
"Why is it that, next to the birthday of the Savior of the World, your most
joyous and most venerated festival returns on this day. Is it not that, in
the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked
with the birthday ofthe Savior? That it forms a leading event in the
Progress of the Gospel dispensation? Is it not that the Declaration of
Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation ofthe
Redeemer's mission upon earth? That it laid the cornerstone of human
government upon the first precepts of Christianity and gave to the world the
first irrevocable pledge of the fulfillment of the prophecies announced
directly from Heaven at the birth of the Saviour and predicted by the
greatest of the Hebrew prophets 600 years before."
"I speak as a man of the world to men of the world; and I say to you, Search
the Scriptures! The Bible is the book of all others, to be read at all ages,
and in all conditions of human life; not to be read in small portions of one
or two chapters every day, and never to be intermitted, unless by some
overruling necessity."
"Posterity--you will never know how much it has cost my generation to
preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
February 27, 1844
"The Bible carries with it the history of the creation, the fall and
redemption of man, and discloses to him, in the infant born at Bethlehem,
the Legislator and Savior of the world."
John Knight
