On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 08:50:04 -0400, r norman <rsn_ at _comcast.net>
wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 22:39:19 -0500, Katra <Katra at centurytel.net>
>wrote:
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>>>>The whole concept that people seem to be MISSING here is that YOU DON'T
>>HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR A SOUND FOR IT TO HAVE AN EFFECT!!!
>>>>Sub-audible beat frequencies can affect brain waves.
>>>>So can strobe lights.
>>>>Did you know that strobe lights can also alter brain waves and have been
>>known to trigger seizures?
>>>>http://www.siumed.edu/neuro/epilepsy/QNA/QNAframes/strobeseizuresjs.html>>>>I've had some interesting meditational experiences using a sub-audible
>>beat frequency tape, (I hear nothing) designed to alter brain waves to
>>the level for astral travel. While I don't know if I have ever actually
>>accomplished that act, I had some amazing dreams. ;-) Dick Sutphen has
>>experimented with this concept on humans. There are temper control tapes
>>out there that also use the same concept. Those worked on me. I am now
>>more even tempered than I was before using them for a number of months
>>several years ago.
>>>>You don't have to hear it for it to work. The frequency used is
>>determined by what "state" you want the brain to work in. Alpha waves etc.
>>>>Here are some interesting links that I googled:
>>>>http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro03/web1/klafrance.html>>http://healingsounds.com/articles/newfrontiers-sound-healing.asp>>http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/p/brain_1.htm>>>>I don't know (or care) what goes on in the rec.pets.dogs.behavior news
>group, but this stuff is cross posted to bionet.neuroscience. The
>word "science" in that news group is no accident.
>>There is good science to indicate rather convincingly that this device
>cannot do what is claimed and there is a rather deafening silence from
Could you be so kind as to point us in the direction of this "good
science" -- i.e., something other than conjecture.
>the world of science when it comes to showing any interest in
>rigorously testng the device see whether or not there is any validity
>to it.
>>It is not that scientists are totally disinterested in unusual
>phenomena or are afraid that something will come along and upset the
>cushy applecart of the science establishment that nourishes us. It is
>just that life is short and there are all sorts of interesting things
>to investigate. It is a matter of allocating resources.
Ergo I am taking the lead in testing this device. If you have
something to contribute, fine. If not, I suggest you ignore this
thread and all posts with my name on them, because this is Usenet and
I pay for my access just as you do, and I will post in
bionet.neuroscience as I see fit.
Charlie