From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU!maskos From: maskos@MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU (Karol Maskos) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: no subject (file transmission) Date: 5 Jan 1995 11:51:26 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 23 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199501051952.NAA64205@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net subject:thomas szyperski e-mail Dear Str-NMR readers: First of all Happy New Year to all the members of this group. Does anybody know the e-mail address of Dr. Thomas Szyperski from the Institut fur Molekularbiologie und Biophysik, ETH, Zurich, Switzerland? Thanks in advance to everyone. Karol =============================================================== Dr. Karol Maskos Phone: (504) 585-6463 Dept. Biochemistry SL43 FAX: (504) 584-2739 Tulane University 1430 Tulane Ave New Orleans LA 70112 maskos@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu ============================================================== From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 09 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU!raman From: raman@BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU (C.S.RAMAN) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Pittsburgh Supercomputer Center - NMR Workshop.. Date: 10 Jan 1995 12:18:23 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 115 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501102018.AA10051@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net STRUCTURE DETERMINATION USING NMR Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center June 25-28, 1995 Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center (PSC) is offering biomedical researchers a "Structure Determination Using NMR" Workshop. The objective is to introduce participants to the different techniques for the elucidation of solution structures of biological macromolecules from nuclear magnetic resonance data. The workshop is free to academic participants. Topics will include: The worskhop will consist of lectures and extensive hands-on sessions. The programs AMBER, Mardigras and MidasPlus will be discussed. Hands-on sessions will be emphasized. Participants will be able to work on the examples provided or on their own experimental data. No prior supercomputing experience is necessary. Workshop leaders are: Dr. David Case, The Scripps Research Institute; Dr. Thomas James, University of California, San Francisco; Dr. Julie Newdoll, Computer Graphis Laboratory, University of California, San Francisco; and Dr. Uli Schmitz, University of California, San Francisco. This workshop is funded by a grant from the Biomedical Research Technology Program, National Center for Research Resources, National Institutes of Health. Travel, meals and hotel accommodations for researchers affilated with U.S. academic institutions are supported by this grant. Enrollment is limited to 20. An application form is included. Deadline for applications is: April 28, 1995. * * * * * * * * * * PITTSBURGH SUPERCOMPUTING CENTER BIOMEDICAL INITIATIVE STRUCTURE DETERMINATION USING NMR June 25-28, 1995 APPLICATION Name:________________________________________________________________________ Affiliation:_________________________________________________________________ Address:_____________________________________________________________________ (Business) _____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ (Home) ____________________________________________________________________________ Telephone: ____________________ ______________________ (Business) (Home) *Social Security Number: _______-_____-_______ Citizenship: ____________ Electronic Mail Address:____________________________________________________ Status: ___Graduate ___Post-doctoral Fellow ___Faculty ___Other (specify) Please indicate specifically any special housing, transportation or dietary arrangements you will need: _______________________________________________ How did you learn about this workshop? _____________________________________ REQUIREMENTS: Applicants must submit a completed application form and a cover letter. The letter should describe, in one or two paragraphs, your current research and how participating in the workshop will enhance this research. Please include a brief statement describing your level of experience with computers. Faculty members, staff and post-docs should provide a curriculum vita. Graduate students must have a letter of recommendation from a faculty member. Please return all application materials by APRIL 28, 1995 to: Biomedical Workshop Applications Committee Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center 4400 Fifth Avenue, Suite 230C Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Direct inquiries to: Nancy Blankenstein, blankens@psc.edu or 412/268-4960. *Disclosure of Social Security Number is voluntary. PSC does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, creed, national or ethnic origin, or handicap. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ C.S.RAMAN _/ _/ Department of Biochemistry _/ _/ University of Texas Health Science Center _/ _/ 7703 Floyd Curl Drive _/ _/ San Antonio, TX 78284-7760 _/ _/ USA _/ _/ _/ _/ Tel: (210) 567-6623 _/ _/ Fax: (210) 567-6595 _/ _/ E-mail: raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Rien ne m'est seur que la chose uncertaine _/ _/ -Villon _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri Jan 13 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!PTOLEMY.MED.HARVARD.EDU!havel From: havel@PTOLEMY.MED.HARVARD.EDU (Timothy F. Havel) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: that does it Date: 14 Jan 1995 09:58:00 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 7 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501141759.AA25146@ptolemy.med.harvard.edu.noname> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Because str-nmr.net.bio.net is now being used by idiot rabble-rousers to purvey their neo-nazi obscenities, I have unsubscribed myself from the list. This is the last time I shall ever subscribe to an unmoderated news group! From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri Jan 13 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!PTOLEMY.MED.HARVARD.EDU!havel From: havel@PTOLEMY.MED.HARVARD.EDU (Timothy F. Havel) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: unsubscribe str-nmr havel@ptolemy.med.harvard.edu (Timothy F. Havel) Date: 14 Jan 1995 09:58:26 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 2 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501141800.AA25148@ptolemy.med.harvard.edu.noname> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net unsubscribe str-nmr havel@ptolemy.med.harvard.edu (Timothy F. Havel) From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sat Jan 14 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!MAILBOX.SYR.EDU!wtwinter From: wtwinter@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU ("William T. Winter") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Fond.. ... Date: 14 Jan 1995 18:19:32 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 12 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Instead of resigning from this list because of NeoNazis like emmanuel send a copy of his post as a complaint to postmaster@well... Perhaps they will get the message and shut him off. It seems much fairer to censor him than to diminish participation in this list because of our frustration with his antics. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. William T. Winter Phone: (315)470-6876 315 Baker Lab FAX: (315)470-6856 SUNY-ESF Internet: wtwinter@mailbox.syr.edu Syracuse, NY 13210-2786 From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sat Jan 14 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!news.cs.umb.edu!hsdndev!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!cv4.chem.purdue.edu!lev From: "Lev A. Gorenstein" Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: that does it Date: Sat, 14 Jan 1995 20:04:29 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <9501141759.AA25146@ptolemy.med.harvard.edu.noname> NNTP-Posting-Host: cv4.chem.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9501141759.AA25146@ptolemy.med.harvard.edu.noname> On 14 Jan 1995, Timothy F. Havel wrote: > Because str-nmr.net.bio.net is now being used by idiot > rabble-rousers to purvey their neo-nazi obscenities, > I have unsubscribed myself from the list. > > This is the last time I shall ever subscribe to an > unmoderated news group! Well, I just want to mention... If you think that all readers and posters of this newsgroup have the same opinion as the mentioned neo-nazi idiot, then go ahead, unsubscribe! I'm insulted probably more then you are, because I am the Jewish refugee from Russia, I came to this country with my family (needless to mention, that none of us is "organized crime gangster", we all are scientists and ingeneers, some are Ph.D.'s), and volunters helped us, and gave us some money "to get started", etc. And I'm gratefull to this country, and hope to be usefull to it. But, returning to unsubscribe issue. If you want to sacrifice the area that you're interested in because of one idiot-poster, than do it. For me this newsgroup is very intersting, it's my area, and I will continue read it. It's just the matter of one's internal values and preferences... I would rather include that moron in my kill-file, so my news-reader will delete automatically all messages from that person. ____________________________________________ Lev A. Gorenstein Chemistry Department Purdue University W.Lafayette, IN 47907, USA (317)494-5289; Fax (317)494-0239 lev@chem.purdue.edu From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news2.near.net!das-news2.harvard.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!hsdndev!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!cv4.chem.purdue.edu!lev From: "Lev A. Gorenstein" Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Fondle .. Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 15:06:43 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <01HLWR4P4VTE000XN6@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: cv4.chem.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01HLWR4P4VTE000XN6@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> On 15 Jan 1995, Kinetics Group wrote: > Reply to: RE>Fondle .. > Please refrain from giving us of your racist american crap, OK. (the entire text of the offensive posting was included in the Kinetic Group reply ) Thanx, Kinetic Group, for reposting of the offencive article! Are you really sure that you had to quote it in it's idiotic entity???? ____________________________________________ Lev A. Gorenstein Chemistry Department Purdue University W.Lafayette, IN 47907, USA (317)494-5289; Fax (317)494-0239 lev@chem.purdue.edu From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!news.ttu.edu!seas.smu.edu!convex!insosf1.infonet.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.alpha.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.starnet.net!wupost!uhog.mit.edu!rutgers!mcrcr6!cmcl2!yale.edu!news.ycc.yale.edu!proton!dcs Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: What to do about garbage posts Message-ID: <3fbhal$6tf@news.ycc.yale.edu> From: dcs@proton.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth) Date: 15 Jan 1995 16:08:53 GMT Organization: Dept. of Chemistry, Yale University NNTP-Posting-Host: proton.chem.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 22 William T. Winter (wtwinter@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU) wrote: : Instead of resigning from this list because of NeoNazis like emmanuel : send a copy of his post as a complaint to postmaster@well... Perhaps : they will get the message and shut him off. That sounds sensible, but may not actually be a good idea: it is easy to forge a post, or perhaps to break into someone's account and post from it. The actual sender of the message is almost certainly *not* that given in the message's header. In fact, it's quite likely that the message sender wants the *apparent* sender to lose their account. Someone has surely notified the Well by now; so the best thing to do with the garbage is to just hit 'd'. I agree that a moderator would be helpful, if anyone is so inclined. Cheers, -- | Dave Schweisguth Internet: dcs@proton.chem.yale.edu MIME spoken here | | Yale Depts. of MB&B & Chemistry Phone: 203-432-5208 Fax: 203-432-6144 | | For complying with the NJ Right To Know Act: Contents partially unknown. | From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Moderation of this Newsgroup.... Date: 16 Jan 1995 10:47:24 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3feevs$jfr@net.bio.net> References: <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net A short P.S. to acknowledge points made by a couple of other readers - even moderating all of the newsgroups will not protect them from a determined intruder. Fortunately most of the network incidents have not been that diabolical, so moderation will definitely filter out "noise." From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Moderation of this Newsgroup.... Date: 16 Jan 1995 10:36:58 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology Lines: 109 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3feeca$il1@net.bio.net> References: <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Bcc: John.Wooley@mailgw.er.doe.gov, parzberg@nsf.gov In article <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu>, C.S.RAMAN wrote: >Dear Structural NMR newsgroup readers: > >After seeing the outrageous posting of Jan 13, many subscribers to this >newsgroup have contacted me regarding how we can protect ourselves from >such things in the future. Rather than responding to each one of you >individually, I decided to post this to the entire net to discuss the >issue and solicit your thoughts. > >Being an unmoderated newsgroup, Structural-NMR is prone to such >attacks. Few newsgroups on the BIOSCI-USENET are moderated and I am >given to understand that we were not the only one to be hit with this >garbage. Basically, anyone can post to this newsgroup since there are >no restrictions on sending email to str-nmr@net.bio.net. Therefore, in >its present format - unmoderated newsgroup - there is little we can do >to prevent anyone from posting irrelevant material. > >When I first initiated efforts to start a sturctural NMR newsgroup, my >primary motive was to establish a forum for free flow of discussion >pertaining to developments in multidimensional NMR research. I had >outlined the goals in the newsgroup charter and will not reiterate them >here. My raison d'^etre for an unmoderated newsgroup was to avoid >scientific bias in the discussions. I'd like to add to the above a note about a simple matter of economics. Newsgroups are largely unmoderated because they are ***free***. Nonetheless, everything has a "price" of some kind. Moderating a newsgroup means that, at a minimum, someone has to volunteer their time. Perhaps there are some people who believe that time is not worth anything, but I certainly don't adhere to that view. Because no one has to date volunteered to moderate most newsgroups, the "price" that USENET readers have to "pay" is being subjected to an occasional nut who may offend people on the Internet. If I were a casual reader and saw several posts with the kind of Subject: line that appeared on the offending message in question, I would simply delete them without giving the poster the opportunity to waste my time further. This minimizes the "fee" that I have to pay. Unfortunately since I manage this system, I can not afford to ignore this kind of incident, so my personal "price" is high. Yours does not have to be. To react to this kind of incident by "unsubscribing" is excessively hasty in my mind, and basically cedes all of the good that you may have received from the forum to the stupid actions of one individual. Having made that statement, let's examine our options. We can move to a fully moderated newsgroup if Dr. Raman wishes to preapprove all postings. There are some technical problems however. If we send out a "newgroup message" to change this to a moderated newsgroup, there will be a period of time, possibly weeks, during which we will be in limbo as systems administrators on USENET act on our message. Sites which miss the moderated newsgroup conversion will continue to inject messages into USENET and they will travel to other sites until they hit a news site that is set up to moderate the group. The message will then be forwarded to the moderator's address. Since USENET uses a flooding algorithm to broadcast messages and multiple sites will be in various states of conversion, this means that the moderator will possibly have to endure barrages of multiple copies of the messages from various sites until everyone eventually converts over. I do not envy Dr. Raman during this period if he decides to do this by hand. Because of one person's transgression, he will be very inconvenienced (but he may nonetheless feel strongly enough about this issue to proceed anyway - that's his call). There is another mechanism that we can use longer term but we are not in a position to implement it for at least a few months because of other BIOSCI issues that I must resolve first. We can create an automated moderation scheme which would require all users of our newsgroups to register if they want to be able to post to the newsgroups. Any messages that came in to the moderator's address would have the From: line matched up against the registration list. If a match occurred the message would be distributed, if not, the message would fall into the "bit bucket" and disappear. While this would not provide total protection unless we had someone manually check out the registered users, it would shelter us from the random postings that occur simply netwide. On the downside, it would mean that people would have to ensure that their addresses on the registration list were **current**, and, believe me from many long years of experience, that is going to be a bit of a hassle for us, the administrators. Nonetheless, this is the direction that I ultimately hope to pursue for all of the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups as the amount of stray traffic on the net increases. Unfortunately, until I get some resource issues resolved first (hopefully within the next few months), we are not yet in a position to undertake this additional work. Having said all of this, my final reaction is simply to encourage calm. Don't let the occasional bozo start this kind of reaction. For the near future at least, simply report problems to biosci-help@net.bio.net, and we will lower the boom on the offending party by contacting their service provider. You can also complain directly by sending a message to either postmaster@XXX or news@XXX where XXX is the hostname of the site originating the message (please make sure that you know how to read message headers before you fly off the handle on this!!). This kind of incident is an unfortunate part of the brave new world of freedom on the Internet. As I said above, don't give these jerks your valuable time by reading their messages in the first place. !!!!! If you are using e-mail, this is yet one more reason to switch !!!!! to a news reading program. These kind of incidents are even !!!!! easier to ignore in a news system than via e-mail. Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!BIOSYM.COM!biosym.com!chen From: biosym.com!chen@BIOSYM.COM (Wenqiao Chen) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: unsubscribe str-nmr Date: 16 Jan 1995 07:45:24 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 15 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501161522.AA21874@east1.biosym.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net unsubscribe str-nmr chen@biosym.com =================================================================== Wenqiao Chen, Ph.D. BIOSYM Technologies Inc. 4 Century Drive, Parsippany, NJ 07054 Tel: 201-267-4476 Fax: 201-267-9648 Email address: chen@biosym.com =================================================================== From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!JERSEY.CRAY.COM!gene From: gene@JERSEY.CRAY.COM (Eugene Fleischmann) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Ad from "Dissidents..." Date: 16 Jan 1995 07:00:09 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 14 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501161458.AA07946@jersey.cray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net "Fondle my hot shiny 8 inch XXXX!" This is TOTALLY out of line. Moderator, please remove this individual from the distribution and subscription lists. There is no content in the message referred-to to even remotely rationalizing its posting to this bulletin board. If this kind of posting continues to make it onto the list, I will certainly unsubscribe. Gene Fleischmann From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail From: pfinerty@nyx10.cs.du.edu (random walk) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Moderation of this Newsgroup.... Date: 16 Jan 1995 00:39:33 -0700 Organization: Nyx, The Spirit Of The Night @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <3fd7rl$376@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyx10.cs.du.edu i think moderating this group is a waste of time. here's why... 1) _someone_ has to be the moderator. who among scientists has the time do such a task? if you have the time, please contact me, i've got plenty of experiments you could do instead. 2) it is trivial to forge posts to moderated newsgroups. the person who posted that article could easily get around such moderation and there are those who enjoy posting to moderated newsgroups by forgery. 3) the 'garbage' type posts are extraordinarily rare. i think that is perhaps the first i have seen on this group (did that BBS one get posted here too? can't recall..) and hardly justifies a call for moderation on such a low volume newsgroup as this. well, those are my points. i suppose #2 comes with the territory but it is true that the person could have got around the moderation easily. i think #3 is perhaps the best argument. i mean, it's not like we're wading through hundreds of articles a day here... -patrick finerty biochem grad student, u of utah, slc From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!gs.dfn.de!zib-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!ipp-garching.mpg.de!alf.biochem.mpg.de!krasel From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Fond.. ... Date: 16 Jan 1995 06:48:49 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Max-Planck-Gesellschaft in Garching Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3fd4sh$1p0r@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.biochem.mpg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] After complaining to support@well.sf.ca.us about the posting, I received the following email this morning. >Date: Sun, 15 Jan 1995 14:21:58 -0800 >From: WELL Support Staff >Message-Id: <199501152221.OAA24609@well.sf.ca.us> >To: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de >Subject: Re: Article from emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us > >This post did NOT come from our site and the user has been notified and has >NO knowlege of the post. We are attempting to locate the person who did >post it and will try to prevent it in the future. > >Joshua Siegel >WELL Support Staff It seems this guy has at least a good knowledge of sendmail :-) (I'm not sure but I think for attempts to locate the origin of this post it might be a good idea to send the postmaster the headers of the postings as you received them at your site -- or am I completely off here?) --Cornelius. -- /* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany */ /* email: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de fax: +49 89 8578 3795 */ /* "Science is the game you play with God to find out what His rules are." */ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU!raman From: raman@BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU (C.S.RAMAN) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Moderation of this Newsgroup.... Date: 15 Jan 1995 17:45:08 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 90 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear Structural NMR newsgroup readers: After seeing the outrageous posting of Jan 13, many subscribers to this newsgroup have contacted me regarding how we can protect ourselves from such things in the future. Rather than responding to each one of you individually, I decided to post this to the entire net to discuss the issue and solicit your thoughts. Being an unmoderated newsgroup, Structural-NMR is prone to such attacks. Few newsgroups on the BIOSCI-USENET are moderated and I am given to understand that we were not the only one to be hit with this garbage. Basically, anyone can post to this newsgroup since there are no restrictions on sending email to str-nmr@net.bio.net. Therefore, in its present format - unmoderated newsgroup - there is little we can do to prevent anyone from posting irrelevant material. When I first initiated efforts to start a sturctural NMR newsgroup, my primary motive was to establish a forum for free flow of discussion pertaining to developments in multidimensional NMR research. I had outlined the goals in the newsgroup charter and will not reiterate them here. My raison d'^etre for an unmoderated newsgroup was to avoid scientific bias in the discussions. Having said this, I would like to know your views on how we must handle this situation. I have received over 40 e-letters, and a fourth of them suggest moderation of this newsgroup. I have contacted David Kristofferson (the BIOSCI Newsgroup coordinator) for additional details on this matter, should we decide to take that route. If I were to moderate this newsgroup, the following plan will be in effect. (a) So long as the matter being submitted to the entire readership of this newsgroup conforms to the objectives outlined in the charter, it will be distributed in its entirety. The technical content of the posting will be untouched. The posting will include the email address of the sender and any correspondence material he/she includes with the posting. (b) The following postings will not be tolerated: subject matter irrelevant to the interests of this newsgroup, general advertisements, product advertisements, obscene and offensive postings and direct insults. Re - advertisements, of interest to the structural NMR community, will be placed in the WWW server (nearing completion!) created exclusively to meet the needs of this newsgroup. (c) Postdoctoral and job openings will be distributed to the entire net in a timely fashion. Conference/Meeting announcements will also be treated similarly. I would like to hear from as many subscribers as possible about what you think about (i) moderation of this newsgroup and (ii) whether or not you object to the plan (vide supra) and why? If you have other ideas or recommendations, please include the same. Your input is vital to make this newsgroup a success. For those who were offended by the Jan 13 posting, I am terribly sorry that it happened, but, as explained above, there was nothing that I could have done to prevent it. Finally, incidents such as this (offensive posting of Jan 13) and the one last year (immigration related posting by two attorneys to millions of people) is making a lot of people consider imposing restrictions on network usage. In fact, U.S. Congress is going to debate this issue and it is quite possible that we may be limited when it comes to network freedom. As in any other case, one bad apple can spoil the lot! Looking forward to hearing from you. Cheers -raman -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ C.S.RAMAN _/ _/ Department of Biochemistry _/ _/ University of Texas Health Science Center _/ _/ 7703 Floyd Curl Drive _/ _/ San Antonio, TX 78284-7760 _/ _/ USA _/ _/ _/ _/ Tel: (210) 567-6623 _/ _/ Fax: (210) 567-6595 _/ _/ E-mail: raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ How can it be that mathematics, a product of human thought _/ _/ independent of experience, is so admirably adapted to the _/ _/ objects of reality? "-Albert Einstein" _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU!raman From: raman@BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU (C.S.RAMAN) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Newsgroup Status Date: 16 Jan 1995 15:40:19 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 41 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501162340.AA14684@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their thoughts with me on how to resolve this situation. After reading a number of your e-letters, it is abundantly clear that an overwhelming majority wants to brush this incident aside and continue with the newsgroup AS IS. I do agree with Dr. Kristofferson's point about time spent on moderating a newsgroup (a number of others also pointed this out to me!). I was (and am!) aware of this time constraint and did factor it into my original decision on leaving the newsgroup unmoderated. The nasty posting of Jan 13, and the emails that followed, however, made me raise the issue of newsgroup moderation. It is always good to obtain a consensus when ones earlier decision is challenged. For the sake of brevity, let me say that I have decided (after seeing your response) to leave the newsgroup unmoderated at the present time. I am, however, leaving the option open to moderate this newsgroup, should such irrelevant and outrageous postings become rampant. Cheers -raman -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ C.S.RAMAN _/ _/ Department of Biochemistry _/ _/ University of Texas Health Science Center _/ _/ 7703 Floyd Curl Drive _/ _/ San Antonio, TX 78284-7760 _/ _/ USA _/ _/ _/ _/ Tel: (210) 567-6623 _/ _/ Fax: (210) 567-6595 _/ _/ E-mail: raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ How can it be that mathematics, a product of human thought _/ _/ independent of experience, is so admirably adapted to the _/ _/ objects of reality? "-Albert Einstein" _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 15 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news2.near.net!das-news2.harvard.edu!fas-news.harvard.edu!hsdndev!purdue!mozo.cc.purdue.edu!cv4.chem.purdue.edu!lev From: "Lev A. Gorenstein" Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Moderation of this Newsgroup.... Date: Mon, 16 Jan 1995 15:39:50 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cv4.chem.purdue.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9501152052.AA14016@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> On 15 Jan 1995, C.S.RAMAN wrote: > Finally, incidents such as this (offensive posting of Jan 13) and the > one last year (immigration related posting by two attorneys to millions > of people) is making a lot of people consider imposing restrictions on > network usage. So let's count the rate of crap: is it two per year? Personally I don't think that this treatens to the newsgroup well-being. I would say - if it happens again, we may try to moderate the group, but I don't think that we have to do it now. Did you noticed that huge and strange list of newsgroups in that posting? It was a screen-full! And I didn't find any order in it. It wasn't sent to str-nmr@bio.net, it was posted trough NNTP. Moderator is good to avoid such things, but as Dr. Raman mentioned, the best moderator to avoid scientific bias is no moderator. We're scientists, and the more opened we are, the better. I'd like to cite the idea how to deal with off-topic postings from the group alt.best.of.internet. This group is suffering from off-topic postes, because its goals and topics are unclear from the name (in fact, it's the collection of best and funniest articles from any other Internet gatherings, reposted there by subscribers - Hey, this is not an ad! Don't blame me!). So one person suggested that in case of off-topic posting everybody send the personal POLITE e-mail (not follow-up to the group, of course!) to the offender, and preferrably with the full quotation of his post. And I think that if you receive even 100 of such e-mails, you'll think twice before repeating the offence. And the system administrator also can become upset... I don't think this is the best way of dealing, but I do think that it would be better if Timothy Havel sent his outcry to emmanuel@wales, rather than to all of us, his colleagues. Just my $.02. ____________________________________________ Lev A. Gorenstein Chemistry Department Purdue University W.Lafayette, IN 47907, USA (317)494-5289; Fax (317)494-0239 lev@chem.purdue.edu From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 16 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!REN.ONYX-PHARM.COM!bkarlak From: bkarlak@REN.ONYX-PHARM.COM ("Brian Karlak") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Racist trash Date: 16 Jan 1995 12:16:39 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 17 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501161216.ZM16359@ren.onyx-pharm.com> To the members of str-nmr@net.bio.net: I have taken the liberty of forwarding the racist drivel that unfortunately appeared on our system to "support@well.sf.ca.us". The WELL is a private e-mail service and would certainly like to know about misuse of thier accounts. I also indicated that the letter was probably a hoax (see the Message-ID). If emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us is indeed the perpetrator, they may be able to take action against him. Brian Karlak Onyx Pharmaceuticals -- "For I am a cat, and since when has a cat given anyone a straight answer?" From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 16 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU!raman From: raman@BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU (C.S.RAMAN) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: P.S. to "Newsgroup Status".... Date: 16 Jan 1995 16:07:05 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 61 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501170007.AA14729@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net A final note on the matter of Jan 13 posting. Dr. Kuszewski has brought to my attention the response he received from emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us and I have included the same for your information. >" Thanks for your righteous indignation at usenet spamming. >However, you should know that I had nothing to do with the >original posting nor was this account compromised in any way. >What happened is a repeat of a continuing forgery problem which keeps >happening at netcom.com and which they seem unable or unwilling to >prevent. If you're going to email anyone on this, I suggest >postmaster@netcom.com and root@netcom.com. If you mail bombed >me, don't feel bad - I probably would have done the same thing >and it didn't cause a major inconvenience anyway. > >emmanuel@well.sf.ca.us > >P.S. Please spread this around as I can't crosspost to *all* >of the places this was originally posted to. Thanks." I am hoping that this transient incident will not force people to unsubscribe from this newsgroup. In case you don't agree with me and want to unsubscribe, please follow the instructions below to remove yourself from the discussions here: (a) If you read str-nmr discussions via USENET NEWS and don't want to, it is as simple as deleting it from your list of newsgroups. (b) If you are an email subscriber, then to unsubscribe, please send a message to: biosci-server@net.bio.net with the body of the message reading: unsubscribe structural-nmr Kindly DO NOT send an unsubscribe post to the entire net. As always, I am open to suggestions and ideas regarding how we can improve the quality of discussions in this forum. Cheers -raman -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ C.S.RAMAN _/ _/ Department of Biochemistry _/ _/ University of Texas Health Science Center _/ _/ 7703 Floyd Curl Drive _/ _/ San Antonio, TX 78284-7760 _/ _/ USA _/ _/ _/ _/ Tel: (210) 567-6623 _/ _/ Fax: (210) 567-6595 _/ _/ E-mail: raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ How can it be that mathematics, a product of human thought _/ _/ independent of experience, is so admirably adapted to the _/ _/ objects of reality? "-Albert Einstein" _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 16 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!chemistry.gatech.edu!martha.briggs From: martha.briggs@chemistry.gatech.edu (Martha Briggs) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: unsubscribe str-nmr Date: 17 Jan 1995 07:29:00 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 26 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501171528.AA13535@chemistry.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net unsubscribe str-nmr chen@biosym.com Dr. Marty Briggs Assistant Professor School of Chemistry and Biochemistry Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0400 (404) 894-4001 Fax: (404) 894-7452 martha.briggs@chemistry.gatech.edu "The cost of a thing is the amount of life which is required to be exchanged for it." H. D. Thoreau From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 16 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!NMR1.IOC.AC.RU!strel From: strel@NMR1.IOC.AC.RU ("Strelenko Yuri A.") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Real scientists are opened to the life ... Date: 17 Jan 1995 04:16:55 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 29 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <65731.strel@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Real scientists are opened to the life Dear colleagues, As most of us I am also very angry by the mail of 13th January. Nevertheless, I would like that our newsgroup will be unmoderated for the reasons that were posted by Prof. Raman. I think that we live and work in the circumstances that much differ in our countries, but it is well known that some of peoples are fascists and racists in any place of the world. Should we find the method to filter unwanted information in our newsgroup, we will meet a racist on a street, shops or transport. Let us note that the most intensive discussion in our newsgroup is devoted for not our professional interests. With best wishes and kind regards, Yuri Strelenko. ********************************************************************* | Dr. Yuri A. Strelenko | | | N.D.Zelinsky Institute | Fax (7-095) 135 5328 | | of Organic Chemistry, | Tel (7-095) 135 9094 | | Leninsky prospect 47, | e-mail strel@nmr1.ioc.ac.ru | | 117913 Moscow B-334, | | | Russia | | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 17 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!caen!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gumby!newspump.wustl.edu!news.miami.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!usenet From: binglis@ufthm.health.ufl.edu (Ben Inglis) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: What to do about garbage posts Date: 18 Jan 1995 02:17:07 GMT Organization: University of Florida. Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3fhtn3$o4g@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <3fbhal$6tf@news.ycc.yale.edu> Reply-To: binglis@ufthm.health.ufl.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ufthm.health.ufl.edu Nothing! Ignore them. If they get no response they'll go away quickly. Hit 'delete' like the man says. Moderation shouldn't be needed. (Please ignore the hypocrisy contained in this posting.) Ben From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 17 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!textile.tfe.gatech.edu!hbeckham From: hbeckham@textile.tfe.gatech.edu ("Beckham, Haskell") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: post-doc position available Date: 17 Jan 1995 20:30:55 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 9 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <2F1C5386@eng.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net SUBSCRIBE Postdoctoral position available in NMR imaging. Where do I send the job announcement and description for advertising on the net? Haskell W. Beckham Georgia Tech Atlanta, GA 30332-0295 From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 17 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!branche From: branche@clark.net (ender) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: How does MRI work? Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:54:53 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc., Ellicott City, MD USA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3fk2nd$9st@clarknet.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I'm going to break from tradition and talk about nmr. I would like to understand the difference between MRI and NMR. I'm inclined to believe the differences are in the application. if that is so, then I would also like to understand the basic principals of magnetic imagery. I understand that there are radio, magnets and other fun stuff needed to make it work, but I wonder was is it that is being perceived, how is it affected by media and density and the limits of perception. I understand the difference between the raw output of the scanner and the image software you use to create and display a slice. but no data about the speed, resolution or processing time are obvious. thanks in advance ender From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 17 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!textile.tfe.gatech.edu!hbeckham From: hbeckham@textile.tfe.gatech.edu ("Beckham, Haskell") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: postdoctoral position available Date: 18 Jan 1995 08:05:47 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 46 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <2F1CF663@eng.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Post-doctoral Position Available NMR Imaging Investigations of Water Distribution and Diffusion in Engineered Fibrous Substrates The location and mobility of small-molecule penetrants in complex polymeric materials are important to characterize for such properties as transport, binding, and exclusion. The performance of textile substrates used in filtration and barrier systems depends on these properties of the polymers from which they are constructed. NMR imaging is particularly suited for conducting these types of characterizations. Initial work in this area has been conducted on carpet and diaper samples. NMR imaging of a carpet sample initially loaded to 50% water (based on the weight of the dry sample) has shown that the water is not homogeneously distributed, but does leave the carpet homogeneously as a function of free-convection time. These carpet studies are aimed at elucidating drying mechanisms for different drying techniques, thereby allowing optimization of the process. NMR imaging of pulp-bat-containing superabsorbent material in diaper constructions clearly shows water distribution as a function of loading (75, 225, and 400 grams). Using various contrast parameters (T1 and T2), "mobility maps" of water have been established. The diaper studies are aimed at characterizing the efficiency of water removal and retention, thereby aiding design and engineering of this textile substrate. Focused at the School of Textile and Fiber Engineering at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, the project will involve a number of people with expertise in textiles, drying, superabsorbent materials, and NMR spectroscopy. Both standard and advanced pulse techniques will be employed on a Bruker 400- MHz NMR system with micro-imaging capabilities. Two 1.5-Tesla Philips Gyroscan full-body imaging systems at Emory University, a few miles from the Georgia Tech campus, are also available. If you are interested in applying for this position, please submit a curriculum vitae along with two letters of reference to Dr. Haskell Beckham, School of Textile and Fiber Engineering, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0295. Experience in NMR spectroscopy is required, with experience in NMR imaging preferred. A decision will be made as soon as an appropriate candidate has been identified. The starting date is March 1, 1995. The salary is negotiable, depending on needs, experience, and travel requirements. Benefits are included. From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Wed Jan 18 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!chemistry.gatech.edu!martha.briggs From: martha.briggs@chemistry.gatech.edu (Martha Briggs) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: still trying to unsubscribe Date: 19 Jan 1995 07:17:57 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 25 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501191517.AA13225@chemistry.gatech.edu> unsubscribe str-nmr Dr. Marty Briggs Assistant Professor School of Chemistry and Biochemistry Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0400 (404) 894-4001 Fax: (404) 894-7452 martha.briggs@chemistry.gatech.edu "The cost of a thing is the amount of life which is required to be exchanged for it." H. D. Thoreau From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Wed Jan 18 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!uhog.mit.edu!news.intercon.com!udel!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!uunet!world!news.bu.edu!nntp.bu.edu!rosenbac From: rosenbac@darwin.bu.edu (D. Srikar Rao) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: pdb viewer Date: 18 Jan 1995 21:29:59 GMT Organization: Boston University Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: darwin.bu.edu Hi, I'm a graduate studnet working on protein modeling. I'm wondering if anyone knows of FREE software that allows for viewing pdb files on an XTERM? Something like kinemage or Rasmol, but for xterm... If anyone knows, I'd really appreciate it. -- -- Dror Rosenbach Bio-molecular Engineering Research Center Off. (617) 353-7123 Dept. of Biomedical Engineering Res. (617) 776-6307 Boston University e-mail rosenbac@darwin.bu.edu There are three types of people in the world. Those that are good at math and those that are not. -- From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu Jan 19 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!MED.UNC.EDU!sheng From: sheng@MED.UNC.EDU (Sheng Zhong) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: NMR books Date: 20 Jan 1995 13:36:54 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 16 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501202136.AA27496@hasty.med.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear Netters, Does anyone has a complete list of NMR books published within 10 years? Please include the publisher when post it. Thanks in advance. Best way to deal with garbage post is to post something related to this newsgroup not otherwise. Dr. Sheng Zhong Dept. of Biochem. & Biophys. UNC at Chapel Hill sheng@med.unc.edu From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu Jan 19 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ringer.cs.utsa.edu!lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu!mmaguire From: "Michael J. Maguire" Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: 15N reference Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 13:06:33 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having a bit of trouble getting my ammonium nitrate 15N reference sample to give me the expected spectrum. The nitrate signal is coming in loud and clear, but the ammonium signal is giving a multiplet rather than the expected doublet. Decoupling doesn't help. Does anyone know what the problem might be. Where can I look up tables of 15N spectra? The sample was supplied by Wilmad as an enriched reference sample, so I'm not questioning its purity at this point. Thanks for any suggestions Mike Maguire. From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri Jan 20 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail From: pfinerty@nyx10.cs.du.edu (random walk) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: pdb viewer Date: 21 Jan 1995 13:10:14 -0700 Organization: Nyx, The Spirit Of The Night @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3frpn6$jp4@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nyx10.cs.du.edu In article , D. Srikar Rao wrote: >Hi, > >I'm a graduate studnet working on protein modeling. I'm wondering if anyone >knows of FREE software that allows for viewing pdb files on an XTERM? >Something like kinemage or Rasmol, but for xterm... If anyone knows, I'd >really appreciate it. well, i've run Rasmol through an x windows session before. we have Rasmol on an SGI just down the hall. i usually use it by starting up MacX on our one of our quadras and then launching Rasmol from a term session i've got going on the indigo. a Rasmol window is then created on our quadra (in MacX). it seems pretty straight forward. i didn't need to set up anything in particular for this too work, it just seems to work. -patrick finerty biochem grad student, u of utah, slc From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri Jan 20 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!ginger.biophys.upenn.edu!dugan From: dugan@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu (Ben Dugan) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: 90.5MHz 13C probe for swap Date: 21 Jan 1995 17:07:45 GMT Organization: Dept of Radiology, Univ of PA Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3frf11$pku@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ginger.biophys.upenn.edu I am an electrical engineer at the University of PA, and am also an avid trash-picker. I have found a nice looking nmr probe that may be of use to someone out there. It was thrown out by a lab here in the Radiology Department, presumably because it has a broken dewar. I do not want money for it, but would like to get electronic test equipment, especially an oscilloscope. Please send me mail if you are interested, and I will give more details about appearance, etc. I hope this was not an inappropriate 'post'. Thank you. Ben Dugan (dugan@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu) From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 22 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!ginger.biophys.upenn.edu!dugan From: dugan@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu (Ben Dugan) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: 90.5 MHz 13C probe to trade Date: 23 Jan 1995 16:26:24 GMT Organization: Dept of Radiology, Univ of PA Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3g0lbg$58g@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ginger.biophys.upenn.edu I am an electrical engineer at the University of PA, and am also an avid trash-picker. I have found a nice looking nmr probe that may be of use to someone out there. It was thrown out by a lab here in the Radiology Department, presumably because it has a broken dewar. I do not want money for it, but would like to get electronic test equipment, especially an oscilloscope. Please send me mail if you are interested, and I will give more details about appearance, etc. I hope this was not an inappropriate 'post'. Thank you. Ben Dugan (dugan@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu) From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 22 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!sunic!umdac!news From: peterl@umdix.umdc.umu.se (Peter Lundberg) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: 15N reference Date: 23 Jan 1995 09:47:00 GMT Organization: Phys Chem, University of Umea, Sweden Lines: 18 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[2976] Message-ID: <3fvtuk$7qn@kitten.umdc.umu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plgmac.chem.umu.se X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.1@plgmac.chem.umu.se Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. In article "Michael J. Maguire" writes: > I'm having a bit of trouble getting my ammonium nitrate 15N reference > sample to give me the expected spectrum. The nitrate signal is coming > in loud and clear, but the ammonium signal is giving a multiplet rather > than the expected doublet. Decoupling doesn't help. I use nitrate at 0 ppm as a reference. I have never seen an 15N-ammonium-multiplet. What's the pH? Above 10? 73, Peter O==O ================================== O==O O==O Peter Lundberg O==O O==O Email: peterl@umdix.umdc.umu.se O==O O==O ============761.91141============= O==O From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 22 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!sunic!umdac!news From: peterl@umdix.umdc.umu.se (Peter Lundberg) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: NMR books Date: 23 Jan 1995 09:43:29 GMT Organization: Phys Chem, University of Umea, Sweden Lines: 19 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[2976] Distribution: world Message-ID: <3fvto1$7qn@kitten.umdc.umu.se> References: <9501202136.AA27496@hasty.med.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plgmac.chem.umu.se X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.1@plgmac.chem.umu.se Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. In article <9501202136.AA27496@hasty.med.unc.edu> sheng@MED.UNC.EDU (Sheng Zhong) writes: > Does anyone has a complete list of NMR books published within 10 > years? Please include the publisher when post it. There is a yearly listing of NMR books - it looks as complete as anything - in the Specialist's reports (NMR) from the Royal Chemical Society, in the first section. I think there are something like 22 year/volumes by now. Hope this helps. 73, Peter O==O ================================== O==O O==O Peter Lundberg O==O O==O Email: peterl@umdix.umdc.umu.se O==O O==O ============761.91141============= O==O From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 22 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!rams From: rams@pine.chem.upenn.edu (Ayyalusamy Rams) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: "15N reference" Date: 23 Jan 1995 22:30:41 GMT Organization: Department of Chemistry, University of Pennsylvania Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3g1amh$61n@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pine.chem.upenn.edu Hi Michael, Regarding 15N reference: Please refer to the book: NITROGEN-15 NUCLEAR MAGNETIC RESONANCE SPECTROSCOPY, George C.Levy and Robert L.Lichter, John Wiley & sons, 1979. Particularly pages 32 & 33 will be usefull to you. For ammonium nitrate, 15N of the ammonium group resonates at 21.6 ppm (aqueous nitric acid) & 20.68 ppm (sat. aq.soln). 15N of the nitrate group resonates at 376.25 (sat. aq. soln.). This is with reference to liquid ammonia at 0.0 ppm (25 C). I hope this information would be useful to you. 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Closing date for receipt of applications is March 20, 1995 -- Jean-Francois LEFEVRE CNRS IBMC UPR9003 15, rue Descartes 67084 Strasbourg Cedex Tel. 88.41.70.61 e_mail. lefevre@bali.u-strasbg.fr From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 23 22:00:00 1995 Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!caen!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!bootp-18-14.bootp.virginia.edu!user From: cln2e@virginia.edu (Chris North) Subject: Re: Bruker/Felix to ASCII Message-ID: Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia References: <3g39o7$9u3@brahms.udel.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 20:48:24 GMT Lines: 16 In article <3g39o7$9u3@brahms.udel.edu>, dbutcher@brahms.udel.edu (Daniel Jame Butcher) wrote: > Is there a program available that will convert > Bruker or Felix format data to ASCII format? Use the write ascii (wa) comand from the text interface in Felix to get an ascii file of data or a spectrum. Details of the file format are in one of the manuals. -- Christopher L. North Dept. of Chemistry University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22901 cln2e@virginia.edu From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 23 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!CCNMR.MIT.EDU!TURNER%HRNMR From: TURNER%HRNMR@CCNMR.MIT.EDU (Chris Turner) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: 15N Reference Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:50:08 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 20 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <5174B1987E87A0F5A3@CCNMR.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net In article "Michael J. Maguire" writes: > I'm having a bit of trouble getting my ammonium nitrate 15N reference > sample to give me the expected spectrum. The nitrate signal is coming > in loud and clear, but the ammonium signal is giving a multiplet rather > than the expected doublet. Decoupling doesn't help. This is an isotope effect. If the NH4NO3 is made up in D2O you have a variety of "isotopomers", NH4NO3, NH3DNO3, NH2D2NO3, and NHD3NO3 which all have slightly different chemical shifts. These are relatively small effects and so the splitting is only visible on the ammonium nitrogen. You can see simillar splitting in the carbon spectrum of CCL4, because of the differing secondary isotope effects of Chlorine-35 and Chlorine-37. Of course, the most famous example is the splitting of the chloroform line in high-field proton spectra, although that is a slightly different mechanism. Chris Turner From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 23 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.bluesky.net!udel!news-4.nss.udel.edu!brahms.udel.edu!not-for-mail From: dbutcher@brahms.udel.edu (Daniel Jame Butcher) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Bruker/Felix to ASCII Date: 24 Jan 1995 11:26:47 -0500 Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3g39o7$9u3@brahms.udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: brahms.udel.edu Is there a program available that will convert Bruker or Felix format data to ASCII format? From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 23 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!CHEM.UNR.EDU!lcary From: lcary@CHEM.UNR.EDU (lew cary) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: 15N referce Date: 24 Jan 1995 14:00:15 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 10 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <3fvtuk$7qn@kitten.umdc.umu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net In > > "Michael J. Maguire" writes: > > > I'm having a bit of trouble getting my ammonium nitrate 15N reference > > sample to give me the expected spectrum. The nitrate signal is coming > > in loud and clear, but the ammonium signal is giving a multiplet rather > > than the expected doublet. Decoupling doesn't help. > > I use nitrate at 0 ppm as a reference. I have never seen an > 15N-ammonium-multiplet. What's the pH? Above 10? > > 73, Peter > > This sounds like H2 coupling. Is it disolved in D2O? Cheers Lew From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 24 22:00:00 1995 Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!nctuccca.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!dec8.ncku.edu.tw!usenet From: s1683107@sparc4.cc.ncku.edu.tw (Pumpkin Head) Subject: mouse neu c-DNA Message-ID: <1995Jan25.082252.25097@dec8.ncku.edu.tw> Sender: usenet@dec8.ncku.edu.tw (Usenet Manager) Organization: NCKU Biochem X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 21:23:16 GMT Lines: 6 Hey ! Would you kindly tell me the database of mouse neu c-DNA sequence or where I can find the sequence Any help would be greatly appreciated!. . From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 24 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ringer.cs.utsa.edu!lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu!mmaguire From: "Michael J. Maguire" Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: re: 15N ref Thanks. Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 13:30:24 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 16 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to evryone that mailed in with help. I knew that the ammonium nitrate reference was alright because the chemical shifts were in the correct places, but didn't get why decoupling didn't reduce the multiplicity. Clearly, I hadn't allowed for the fact that the sample was made up in D2O/HNO3, and that the protons had exchanged. So of course the decoupler had little effect. Rule 1. Always read the label. Mike Maguire D.Phil. Department of Chemistry University of Texas San Antonio From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 24 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!Germany.EU.net!tw%biosym.uucp From: tw%biosym.uucp@Germany.EU.net ("Dr. Thomas Wein, Biosym GmbH") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Bruker/Felix to ASCII Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:55:24 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 20 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501250956.AA16425@biosym> References: <3g39o7$9u3@brahms.udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hi Daniel, > > Is there a program available that will convert > Bruker or Felix format data to ASCII format? > in Felix you can write out an ASCII file using the command line command "wa ". (Felix version 230). Thomas ##### Dr. Thomas Wein ##### Senior NMR Scientist ##### Biosym Technologies GmbH ##### email: tw%biosym@germany.eu.net ##### Schatzbogen 54 ##### Tel.: ++49 89 429322 ##### D-81829 Muenchen ##### Fax: ++49 89 428150 From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 24 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!ub4b!idefix.CS.kuleuven.ac.be!infoserv.rug.ac.be!bionmr1!kris From: kris@bionmr1.bionmr1.rug.ac.be (Kris Boulez) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: Bruker/Felix to ASCII Date: 25 Jan 1995 07:42:34 GMT Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3g4vda$qn8@infoserv.rug.ac.be> References: <3g39o7$9u3@brahms.udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bionmr1.rug.ac.be X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Chris North (cln2e@virginia.edu) wrote: : In article <3g39o7$9u3@brahms.udel.edu>, dbutcher@brahms.udel.edu (Daniel : Jame Butcher) wrote: : > Is there a program available that will convert : > Bruker or Felix format data to ASCII format? : Use the write ascii (wa) comand from the text interface in Felix to get an : ascii file of data or a spectrum. Details of the file format are in one : of the manuals. Bruker supports an independent format JCAMP-DX. Are there any other NMR programs which can read/write this format ? Kris, -- Kris Boulez (Kris.Boulez@rug.ac.be) Biomolecular NMR unit University of Ghent, Belgium From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 24 22:00:00 1995 Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Path: biosci!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!nctuccca.edu.tw!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!dec8.ncku.edu.tw!usenet From: s1683107@sparc4.cc.ncku.edu.tw (Pumpkin Head) Subject: neu Message-ID: <1995Jan25.082737.25320@dec8.ncku.edu.tw> Sender: usenet@dec8.ncku.edu.tw (Usenet Manager) Organization: NCKU Biochem X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 21:28:00 GMT Lines: 6 Hey ! Would you kindly tell me the database of mouse neu c-DNA sequence or where I can find the sequence Any help would be greatly appreciated!. . 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Thanks again for your cooperation! --------------- please cut here and return portion below --------------- New information or Update to old record (enter N or U): date (DD-MM-YY): first name: middle initial: family name: job title: e-mail address: e-mail network: phone number: FAX number: institution: address1: address2: address3: city: state/province: country: postal code: research interest: research interest: comment: comment: comment: comment: comment: From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu Jan 26 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!sunic!news.kbfi.ee!kadri.ut.ee!Tera.chem.ut.ee!vahur From: vahur@Tera.chem.ut.ee (Vahur Maemets) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: 15N reference Date: 25 Jan 1995 09:51:43 GMT Organization: Tartu University, Estonia Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3g56vf$mek@kadri.ut.ee> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: tera.chem.ut.ee X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Michael J. Maguire (mmaguire@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu) wrote: : I'm having a bit of trouble getting my ammonium nitrate 15N reference : sample to give me the expected spectrum. The nitrate signal is coming : in loud and clear, but the ammonium signal is giving a multiplet rather : than the expected doublet. Decoupling doesn't help. : Does anyone know what the problem might be. : Where can I look up tables of 15N spectra? : The sample was supplied by Wilmad as an enriched reference sample, so : I'm not questioning its purity at this point. : Thanks for any suggestions : Mike Maguire. May be I'm not understand the problem, but if the nitrogen is bonded to four hydrogens as in ammonium ion, then the line in the nitrogen spectrum must be splitted to 2n+1 i.e. to five lines, consider 1/2 spin nuber of hydrogen. Sincirely Vahur Maemets Institute of Chemical Physics Tartu Estonia From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu Jan 26 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!sunic!news.kbfi.ee!kadri.ut.ee!Tera.chem.ut.ee!vahur From: vahur@Tera.chem.ut.ee (Vahur Maemets) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: How does MRI work? Date: 25 Jan 1995 13:49:56 GMT Organization: Tartu University, Estonia Lines: 16 Message-ID: <3g5ku4$2d1@kadri.ut.ee> References: <3fk2nd$9st@clarknet.clark.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tera.chem.ut.ee X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] ender (branche@clark.net) wrote I'not specialist abaut MRI, but because the question was very general, I give shortly some information what I know. Differently from NMR in MRI the main 'thing' or phenomenon what is used is relaxtion, more directly the diference of relaction speeds for same nucleous in different environments. In NMR main importance has diference of resonance frequencies for same nucleous in diferent environments. In MRI, usually, are used diference in relaxtion speeds of water protons in different water containing objects. If it is not so, reader please write to me. Sincirely Vahur Maemets Institute of Chemical Physics Tartu Estonia From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri Jan 27 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!RD.ORION.ORION.mailnet.fi!PIERO.POLLESELLO From: PIERO.POLLESELLO@RD.ORION.ORION.mailnet.fi Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: subscribe Date: 27 Jan 1995 06:11:13 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: Distribution to:NMR-discussiongroup ------------ SUBSCRIBE SRT-NMR Sir! I wish to subscribe str-nmr@net.bio.net How to do? Piero Pollesello, Ph.D., senior lecturer Department of Biomedicine University of Helsinki PObox 8 FIN-00014 Helsinki Finland 160.71.35.35 160.71.33.36 (nmrstation.espoo.orion.fi) fax.: int-358-0-429-2924 From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 29 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!GARDEL.PSC.EDU!mmadrid From: mmadrid@GARDEL.PSC.EDU ("Marcela Madrid") Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: NMR workshop offered at the PSC Date: 30 Jan 1995 12:12:40 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 102 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501301512.ZM5146@gardel.psc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net STRUCTURE DETERMINATION FROM NMR Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center June 25-28, 1995 Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center (PSC) is offering biomedical researchers a "Structure Determination From NMR" Workshop. The objective is to introduce participants to the different techniques for the elucidation of solution structures of biological macromolecules from nuclear magnetic resonance data. The workshop is free to academic participants. The worskhop will consist of lectures and extensive hands-on sessions. The programs AMBER, Mardigras and MidasPlus will be discussed. Hands-on sessions will be emphasized. Participants will be able to work on the examples provided or on their own experimental data. No prior supercomputing experience is necessary. Workshop leaders are: Dr. David Case, The Scripps Research Institute; and Drs Thomas James, Julie Newdoll and Uli Schmitz, University of California, San Francisco. This workshop is funded by a grant from the Biomedical Research Technology Program, National Center for Research Resources, National Institutes of Health. Travel, meals and hotel accommodations for researchers affilated with U.S. academic institutions are supported by this grant. Enrollment is limited to 20. An application form is included. Deadline for applications is: April 28, 1995. * * * * * * * * * * PITTSBURGH SUPERCOMPUTING CENTER BIOMEDICAL INITIATIVE STRUCTURE DETERMINATION USING NMR June 25-28, 1995 APPLICATION Name:________________________________________________________________________ Affiliation:_________________________________________________________________ Address:_____________________________________________________________________ (Business) _____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ (Home) ____________________________________________________________________________ Telephone: ____________________ ______________________ (Business) (Home) *Social Security Number: _______-_____-_______ Citizenship: ____________ Electronic Mail Address:____________________________________________________ Status: ___Graduate ___Post-doctoral Fellow ___Faculty ___Other (specify) Please indicate specifically any special housing, transportation or dietary arrangements you will need: _______________________________________________ How did you learn about this workshop? _____________________________________ REQUIREMENTS: Applicants must submit a completed application form and a cover letter. The letter should describe, in one or two paragraphs, your current research and how participating in the workshop will enhance this research. Please include a brief statement describing your level of experience with computers. Faculty members, staff and post-docs should provide a curriculum vita. Graduate students must have a letter of recommendation from a faculty member. Please return all application materials by APRIL 28, 1995 to: Biomedical Workshop Applications Committee Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center 4400 Fifth Avenue, Suite 230C Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Direct inquiries to: Nancy Blankenstein, blankens@psc.edu or 412/268-4960. *Disclosure of Social Security Number is voluntary. PSC does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, creed, national or ethnic origin, or handicap. From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun Jan 29 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!daresbury!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!dundee.ac.uk!its.dundee.ac.uk!rjabbott From: rjabbott@its.dundee.ac.uk (RICHARD ABBOTT) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Re: 15N reference Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 16:42:59 GMT Organization: University of Dundee Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <3g56vf$mek@kadri.ut.ee> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.36.60.14 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] > vahur@Tera.chem.ut.ee (Vahur Maemets) writes: >Michael J. Maguire (mmaguire@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu) wrote: >: I'm having a bit of trouble getting my ammonium nitrate 15N reference >: sample to give me the expected spectrum. The nitrate signal is coming >: in loud and clear, but the ammonium signal is giving a multiplet rather >: than the expected doublet. Decoupling doesn't help. >: Does anyone know what the problem might be. >: Where can I look up tables of 15N spectra? >: The sample was supplied by Wilmad as an enriched reference sample, so >: I'm not questioning its purity at this point. >: Thanks for any suggestions >: Mike Maguire. >May be I'm not understand the problem, but if the nitrogen is bonded to four >hydrogens as in ammonium ion, then the line in the nitrogen spectrum must be >splitted to 2n+1 i.e. to five lines, consider 1/2 spin nuber of hydrogen. >Sincirely If the nitrogen is bonded to 4 protons as an ammonium ion, the 4 protons are magnetically equivalent and so only a single line should be visible. To go to the original poster, what is the multiplet like in greater detail? Richard Abbott RJAbbott@its.dundee.ac.uk Three Laws of Thermodynamics (paraphrased): First Law: You can't get anything without working for it. Second Law: The most you can accomplish by work is to break even. Third Law: You can't break even. From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 30 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU!raman From: raman@BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU (C.S.RAMAN) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: Postdoctoral Position in Biomolecular NMR Date: 31 Jan 1995 14:25:47 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 58 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9501312225.AA28589@bioc01.uthscsa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net A newly established laboratory in Sydney, Australia seeks a postdoctoral associate to pursue studies on biomolecular recognition, especially the structure, dynamics and interactions of nucleic acids. The position is initially available for three years, renewed annually, with a suggested salary in the range $A 37,345-40,087 p.a. Candidates should have a solid background in hands-on NMR, preferably with experience in multidimensional biomolecular experiments, although appropriately-qualified chemists with an interest in moving into biomolecular work will be considered. Strong computational skills are a bonus. The associate will work with other members of a small group with active projects in C-13 relaxation analysis of nucleic acid motions, discovery of new RNA structures/activities using SELEX methods and analysis of protein/nucleic acid-ligand interactions. Further projects are under development. Spectrometer and computational facilities are very good. The lab has major use of a Bruker DMX-600 equipped with x,y,z gradients, and secondary use of a Bruker DMX-500 equipped with a z gradient. The two Biochemistry NMR labs share a small workstation cluster which includes an SGI R8000 Indigo2, an Indigo2 Extreme, an Indy and two older Personal Irises. These systems currently run a range of Biosym, Molecular Simulations Inc. and academic software. Please direct enquiries to Dr. Garry C. King: at the following address: Garry C. King School of Biochemistry and Molecular Genetics The University of New South Wales Sydney 2052 Australia Ph: 61-2-385-2021 Fax: 61-2-313-6271 Email: garry@bioc.unsw.edu.au -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ C.S.RAMAN _/ _/ Department of Biochemistry _/ _/ University of Texas Health Science Center _/ _/ 7703 Floyd Curl Drive _/ _/ San Antonio, TX 78284-7760 _/ _/ USA _/ _/ _/ _/ Tel: (210) 567-6623 _/ _/ Fax: (210) 567-6595 _/ _/ E-mail: raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ How can it be that mathematics, a product of human thought _/ _/ independent of experience, is so admirably adapted to the _/ _/ objects of reality? "-Albert Einstein" _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon Jan 30 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!RD.ORION.ORION.mailnet.fi!PIERO.POLLESELLO From: PIERO.POLLESELLO@RD.ORION.ORION.mailnet.fi Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr Subject: subscribe Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:24:18 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: Distribution to:NMR-discussiongroup ------------ SUBSCRIBE SRT-NMR Sir! I wish to subscribe str-nmr@net.bio.net How to do? Piero Pollesello, Ph.D., senior lecturer Department of Biomedicine University of Helsinki PObox 8 FIN-00014 Helsinki Finland 160.71.35.35 160.71.33.36 (nmrstation.espoo.orion.fi) fax.: int-358-0-429-2924 From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 31 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newshost.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!NMRPC1.BIOPHYS.upenn.edu!chris From: chris@highresnmr.biophys.upenn.edu (Krzysztof Wroblewski) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr,sci.techniques.mag-resonance Subject: Re: Anyone who knows an ftp site to hold Pronto/3D ? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:40:47 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 124 Message-ID: References: <3go4r9$lpm@news.uni-c.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: nmrpc1.biophys.upenn.edu Summary: Does anyone know a place where I can put a version of Pronto/3D Keywords: ftp, anonymous, Pronto X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: biosci bionet.structural-nmr:403 sci.techniques.mag-resonance:604 In article <3go4r9$lpm@news.uni-c.dk> carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Mogens Kjaer) writes: >From: carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Mogens Kjaer) >Subject: Anyone who knows an ftp site to hold Pronto/3D ? >Date: 1 Feb 1995 14:11:53 GMT >Summary: Does anyone know a place where I can put a version of Pronto/3D >Keywords: ftp, anonymous, Pronto >Hello, >We are pleased to inform that we are going to make Pronto/3D, >version 930401, available via anonymous FTP. The version is the full release >of the Pronto/3D program, not a demo version. >The only problem so far is, that we don't have a machine directly connected >to the internet, so we cannot set up our own anonymous ftp server. >I've uploaded it to ftp.funet.fi last week, but the moderators in >Finland have been busy so far, so it just sits in the incoming directory... >If someone knows a place that will hold the software, please let me know! >It requires a little less than 5Mb for both the SGI and the Sparc version, >and the manuals. >The rest of the file is an extract of the announcement message I planned >to put here when the software is available: >=========================================================================== >You must have a license code in order to use the software. >The file LICENSE describes how this is obtained. You >can get one or more license codes, free of charge. >The manual is provided as PostScript files, one for A4 and >one for Letter size paper. >This is the file README.pronto from the distribution: >============================================================================ >Welcome to Pronto/3D! >Pronto/3D is a program used for assignment of nuclear magnetic resonance >(NMR) spectra of macromolecules. >For reference, please see: >1. Automated and semi-automated analysis of homo- and hetero- > nuclear multidimensional NMR spectra of proteins. The > program Pronto. > M. Kjaer, K.V. Andersen, and F. M. Poulsen > In Methods of Enzymology, Nuclear Magnetic Resonance, > Part C 239, 288-307 > (Eds. T. L. James & N. J. Oppenheimer) Academic Press, > San Diego. (1994). >2. Outline of a Computer Program for the Analysis of Protein NMR > Spectra. > M. Kjaer, K.V. Andersen, S. Ludvigsen, H. Shen, D. Windekilde, > B. Soerensen, and F. M. Poulsen. "Computational Aspects of > the Study of Biological Macromolecules by Nuclear Magnetic > Resonance Spectroscopy" NATO ASI Ser., 225, 291-302 > (Eds. J. C. Hoch, C. Redfield and F. M. Poulsen) (1991) >The present version may be distributed freely, but note, the software is >still copyrighted. >It runs on X11-based UNIX machines only, and is distributed as a series of gzip'ed >tar files, one file for each platform. >The executables require a license code. After installation, start the program >and note the serial number of your machine. Fill in the LICENSE form >and send it to us, and we will mail you a license code. You can get as many >license codes as you want (within reason). >The present directory contains the following files: >930401I.tar.gz Version for Silicon Graphics, running IRIX 4.0.1 > or later. >930401S.tar.gz Version for Sun Sparc Station. >manual/921101_a4.ps.gz "Latest" manual, PostScript file for A4 paper. >manual/921101_ltr.ps.gz Manual, PostScript file for Letter size paper. >README.pronto This file. >LICENSE Fill in the information in this file and mail > it to carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk, and we will > send you a license code. >We can only provide executables for Silicon Graphics and Sun Sparc machines. >Note: >Copyright 1991-1995 By Carlsberg A/S and CRI A/S >Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software and its documentation >for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the above >copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that copyright notice and >this permission notice appear in supporting documentation. >Carlsberg A/S makes no representations about the suitability of this >software for any purpose. It is provided "as is" without express >or implied warranty. >Carlsberg A/S disclaims all warranties with regard to this software, >including all implied warranties of merchantability and fitness, >in no event shall Carlsberg A/S be liable for any special, indirect >or consequential damages or any damages whatsoever resulting from >loss of use, data or profits, whether in an action of contract, >negligence or other tortious action, arising out of or in connection >with the use or performance of this software. >For more information, please contact: >Mogens Kjaer >Pronto Software, Development and Distribution >Carlsberg Research Center >Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10 >DK-2500 Valby >Denmark >Phone: +45 33 27 53 25 >Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 >Email: carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk >============================================================================ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 31 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!overload.lbl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!udel!gatech!swrinde!pipex!sunic!news.uni-c.dk!unidhp.uni-c.dk!carlmk From: carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Mogens Kjaer) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr,sci.techniques.mag-resonance Subject: Anyone who knows an ftp site to hold Pronto/3D ? Date: 1 Feb 1995 14:11:53 GMT Organization: News Server at UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education. Lines: 116 Message-ID: <3go4r9$lpm@news.uni-c.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: unidhp.uni-c.dk Summary: Does anyone know a place where I can put a version of Pronto/3D Keywords: ftp, anonymous, Pronto X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Xref: biosci bionet.structural-nmr:402 sci.techniques.mag-resonance:603 Hello, We are pleased to inform that we are going to make Pronto/3D, version 930401, available via anonymous FTP. The version is the full release of the Pronto/3D program, not a demo version. The only problem so far is, that we don't have a machine directly connected to the internet, so we cannot set up our own anonymous ftp server. I've uploaded it to ftp.funet.fi last week, but the moderators in Finland have been busy so far, so it just sits in the incoming directory... If someone knows a place that will hold the software, please let me know! It requires a little less than 5Mb for both the SGI and the Sparc version, and the manuals. The rest of the file is an extract of the announcement message I planned to put here when the software is available: =========================================================================== You must have a license code in order to use the software. The file LICENSE describes how this is obtained. You can get one or more license codes, free of charge. The manual is provided as PostScript files, one for A4 and one for Letter size paper. This is the file README.pronto from the distribution: ============================================================================ Welcome to Pronto/3D! Pronto/3D is a program used for assignment of nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spectra of macromolecules. For reference, please see: 1. Automated and semi-automated analysis of homo- and hetero- nuclear multidimensional NMR spectra of proteins. The program Pronto. M. Kjaer, K.V. Andersen, and F. M. Poulsen In Methods of Enzymology, Nuclear Magnetic Resonance, Part C 239, 288-307 (Eds. T. L. James & N. J. Oppenheimer) Academic Press, San Diego. (1994). 2. Outline of a Computer Program for the Analysis of Protein NMR Spectra. M. Kjaer, K.V. Andersen, S. Ludvigsen, H. Shen, D. Windekilde, B. Soerensen, and F. M. Poulsen. "Computational Aspects of the Study of Biological Macromolecules by Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Spectroscopy" NATO ASI Ser., 225, 291-302 (Eds. J. C. Hoch, C. Redfield and F. M. Poulsen) (1991) The present version may be distributed freely, but note, the software is still copyrighted. It runs on X11-based UNIX machines only, and is distributed as a series of gzip'ed tar files, one file for each platform. The executables require a license code. After installation, start the program and note the serial number of your machine. Fill in the LICENSE form and send it to us, and we will mail you a license code. You can get as many license codes as you want (within reason). The present directory contains the following files: 930401I.tar.gz Version for Silicon Graphics, running IRIX 4.0.1 or later. 930401S.tar.gz Version for Sun Sparc Station. manual/921101_a4.ps.gz "Latest" manual, PostScript file for A4 paper. manual/921101_ltr.ps.gz Manual, PostScript file for Letter size paper. README.pronto This file. LICENSE Fill in the information in this file and mail it to carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk, and we will send you a license code. We can only provide executables for Silicon Graphics and Sun Sparc machines. Note: Copyright 1991-1995 By Carlsberg A/S and CRI A/S Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software and its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation. Carlsberg A/S makes no representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose. It is provided "as is" without express or implied warranty. Carlsberg A/S disclaims all warranties with regard to this software, including all implied warranties of merchantability and fitness, in no event shall Carlsberg A/S be liable for any special, indirect or consequential damages or any damages whatsoever resulting from loss of use, data or profits, whether in an action of contract, negligence or other tortious action, arising out of or in connection with the use or performance of this software. For more information, please contact: Mogens Kjaer Pronto Software, Development and Distribution Carlsberg Research Center Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10 DK-2500 Valby Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25 Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk ============================================================================ From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue Jan 31 22:00:00 1995 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newshost.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!NMRPC1.BIOPHYS.upenn.edu!chris From: chris@highresnmr.biophys.upenn.edu (Krzysztof Wroblewski) Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr,sci.techniques.mag-resonance Subject: Re: Anyone who knows an ftp site to hold Pronto/3D ? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:44:57 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <3go4r9$lpm@news.uni-c.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: nmrpc1.biophys.upenn.edu Summary: Does anyone know a place where I can put a version of Pronto/3D Keywords: ftp, anonymous, Pronto X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: biosci bionet.structural-nmr:404 sci.techniques.mag-resonance:605 In article <3go4r9$lpm@news.uni-c.dk> carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Mogens Kjaer) writes: >From: carlmk@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Mogens Kjaer) >Subject: Anyone who knows an ftp site to hold Pronto/3D ? >Date: 1 Feb 1995 14:11:53 GMT >Summary: Does anyone know a place where I can put a version of Pronto/3D >Keywords: ftp, anonymous, Pronto There is NMR related anonymous ftp site: ftp@nmrsg.biophys.upenn.edu Why don't you send it there? Krzysztof Wroblewski