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From: rachelle@PICARD.NIEHS.NIH.GOV (Rachelle J. Bienstock)
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Subject: Questions concerning preparation of protein NMR sample
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Hi-

I am going to begin some studies of a small protein (app 10 KDa)
and have some questions concerning sample preparation.
Do people typically purchase deuterated buffers to prepare samples
in, or do they just prepare samples in d2o and then adjust pH
with deuterated reagents?  Also, what pH and buffers would
people recommend using?  

If someone is preparing a protein for you and expresses it in
E.Coli and then just runs in down an antibody column what other
steps do people usually do to obtain a sample pure enough for
NMR experiments?

If anyone could suggest a good current reference on preparing
a protein sample for proton NMR I would greatly appreciate it...

Thanks, Rachelle (rachelle@picard.niehs.nih.gov)

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 01 23:00:00 1995
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From: ipelczer@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU (Istvan  Pelczer)
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There is a good reference for sample preparation:  N. J. Oppenheimer;  
Methods in Enzymology, 176(1989)78-89.
Good luck,

Istvan


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Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 01 23:00:00 1995
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From: durant@PILLER.PHARM.UTAH.EDU (Phil Durant)
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Hi bionetters,

     I am a graduate student doing NMR on RNA hairpins and would like to run a heterotocsynosy or heterotocsytocsy experiment on our Varian instrument.  Most people seem to be doing this type of experiment on Bruker instruments so I am having trouble 
finding a pulse sequence written for Varian use.  I have already checked the Varian userlib directory.  If anyone has this pulse sequence or knows where I can find it please let me know.  

Thanks,

Phil Durant
Univ. of Utah - Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry
durant@piller.pharm.utah.edu


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 02 23:00:00 1995
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We have discovered dust particles in ampoules containing 99.996 % and 99.96
% D2O from Cambridge Isotope Lab. and Euriso-top respectively. This will
cause line-broadening and reduce the resolution of the spectra ( we are
working with oligonucleotides).
I wonder : has anyone else had this problem ?
I am sure this question is of interest to users of this group.

Erlend Moldrheim

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> We have discovered dust particles in ampoules containing 99.996 % and 99.96
> % D2O from Cambridge Isotope Lab. and Euriso-top respectively. This will
> cause line-broadening and reduce the resolution of the spectra ( we are
> working with oligonucleotides).
> I wonder : has anyone else had this problem ?
> I am sure this question is of interest to users of this group.
> 
> Erlend Moldrheim
> 

Have you contacted Cambridge Isotope Lab. and Euriso-top?  What do they say
about this?

Bryan 








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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 02 23:00:00 1995
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I wanted to make you all aware that Cambridge Isotope Laboratories is on the 
Net and I also wanted to respond to the postings about dust particles in D2O. 
(See May 3 posting from Erlend.Moldrheim@kj.uib.no and responses)

CIL has a formal procedure to investigate and solve all issues regarding 
product quality as well as general technical inquiries. Since we are available 
on the Net your questions may be directed to me or you may also contact the 
CIL Sales Rep in your area. We shall respond to your questions in the most 
efficient manner. If you have questions about one of our products, please 
provide the following information:
description of problem, catalog no. of product, quantity, lot no., purchase 
order no., date purchased and of course your full name and address

If you have any comments or suggestions please let us know.

Lynne S. Batchelder, Ph.D.
Technical Services Manager
Cambridge Isotope Laboratories, Inc.
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508 749 2768 (FAX)

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> We have discovered dust particles in ampoules containing 99.996 % and 99.96
> % D2O from Cambridge Isotope Lab. and Euriso-top respectively. This will
> cause line-broadening and reduce the resolution of the spectra ( we are
> working with oligonucleotides).
> I wonder : has anyone else had this problem ?
> I am sure this question is of interest to users of this group.
> 
> Erlend Moldrheim
> 


The dust is to be seen in the intact ampules. They were
already contaminated when I got them!


Sincerely, Ulf Reimer


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On 3 May 1995, Erlend Moldrheim wrote:

> We have discovered dust particles in ampoules containing 99.996 % and 99.96
> % D2O from Cambridge Isotope Lab. and Euriso-top respectively. This will
> cause line-broadening and reduce the resolution of the spectra ( we are
> working with oligonucleotides).
> I wonder : has anyone else had this problem ?
> I am sure this question is of interest to users of this group.
> 
> Erlend Moldrheim
> 
> 


Excuse me if I ask about an obvious thing, which you have checked 
already;  do you see the dust particles in the intact ampules?  There are 
other ways how dust can contaminate your samples.  In our practice (we 
work with oligonucleotides, too, beside other samples) we use 
liofilization, when breaking the vacuum is likely to suck in dust.  Also, 
the sample tube itself carries dust particles on the inside wall surface 
(also outside, but it is not that much of a danger), due to the 
electrostatic attraction.  As such particles are likely to broaden lines 
and degrade homogeneity we take careful measures to keep them away.  We 
rinse the tubes well several times, filter all samples through 
microfilters and usually make up the samples in a glovebag under nitrogen 
or argone.  The latter ensures that no (or at least much less) oxigen 
will be in the sample which improves lineshape further.
Sincerely,

Istvan


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Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 02 23:00:00 1995
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From: barry@SNEEZY.FHIS.NET ("Barry Schweitzer")
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Subject: Borate buffer?
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Hi there:

Does anyone know any reason why using a borate buffer for an NMR sample
should cause a problem?  Someone wants to send us a sample in
a borate/NaCl buffer.  I can't recall seeing this used before so I thought
I would ask the group first.

This is a probably a low interest question so replies can be sent directly
to me instead of using up valuable bandwidth.

Thanks in advance!

Barry



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> We have discovered dust particles in ampoules containing 99.996 % and 99.96
> % D2O from Cambridge Isotope Lab. and Euriso-top respectively. This will
> cause line-broadening and reduce the resolution of the spectra ( we are
> working with oligonucleotides).
> I wonder : has anyone else had this problem ?
> I am sure this question is of interest to users of this group.
> 
> Erlend Moldrheim
> 



I`ve got D2O 99.96 % from euroiso-top. When I read the message I
looked for dust particles in it and I found some!

I still not used this charge of D2O, thats why I cannot say
anything about occuring problems.



Sincerely Ulf Reimer


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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Wed May 03 23:00:00 1995
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Suppliers usually warrant the chemical and isotopic purity of 
their D2O but not the microbiological one i.e. the D2O is not
sterilized. I have in fact noticed bacterial growth which
visually can appear as dust in several D2O ampules from several
supplier. A consequence may be the digestion of your favorite 
protein by bacterial proteases. A routine precaution is to store
D2O at low temperature. A safer way would be to autoclave the
D2O but I do not know whether the ampule might explode or not.
Maybe a volunteer netter might try and tell us...
Michel Seigneuret
Universite Paris 7
Lab. de Biophysique Cellulaire
France


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From: ipelczer@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU (Istvan  Pelczer)
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Subject: Re: Questions concerning preparation of protein NMR sample
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There is another excellent chapter about sample preparation:

W. U. Primrose, Sample preparation
Chapter 2 in: NMR of Macromolecules, A Practical Approach
Ed.:  G. C. K. Roberts, Oxford Univ. Press., 1993.

Sincerely,

Istvan


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Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu May 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: Alexej.Jerschow@jk.uni-linz.ac.at (Alexej Jerschow)
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Subject: Polymers T1 and T2-measurements ?
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Hi !

I need a practicable sample preparation technique for removing oxygen in
polymer samples (polypropylene) dissolved in tetrachloroethane-d4 (or a
mixture of trichlorobenzene/benzene) for T1 and T2-measurements. 

A severe problem is that the sample itself contains air occlusions. The
resultant solution (10 wt%) is very viscous and so common techniques like
N2 purging or evacuation/N2 filling seem not to be appropriate. 

I would very much appreciate if someone could help me. 

AJ



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From: ipelczer@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU (Istvan  Pelczer)
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Subject: Re: Q: stable peptide conformation in aqueous solution?
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Let me have one more comment on this issue.  The transition between 
"stable" and "dynamic" is not only extremely fuzzy based on individual 
properties of the molecules and their environment, but this 
classification is questionable for all systems we study.  The term 
"dynamic" has different meaning for various spectroscopy methods with 
different time scale.  Also, it is usually our -- wishful -- expectation 
to find THE structure even for large molecules with lots of constraints.  
In reality the whole (or segments of the) molecule is largely mobile, and 
there are several structures which satisfy the measured parameters.  
There are plenty of examples of such behaviour in the current 
literature;  eglin c is a nice example from Gerhard Wagner's lab, among 
many others.  Warnings have been presented several times (from Oleg 
Jardetzky, for example) about the dangers of the "static" description of 
such structures.  We also experienced extended local mobility of the 
loop region in a 24-mer RNA hairpin recently -- it will appear in the 
May-23st issue of Biochemistry.
Sincerely,

Istvan


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Syracuse University
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|>My question is:
|>
|>WERE (AT WHICH SIZE) IS THE APPROXIMATE TRANSITION "DYNAMIC - STABLE"? 
|>                 (aqueous solution no detergents etc., room-temperature)

Using calorimetry to look for cooperative folding/unfolding
transitions, Privalov has found that the minimum length of 
a peptide that has a "folded" state is (depending on 
sequence, of course) about 50 residues.

Of course, there are exceptions (eg. BPTI), but these tend to
"cheat" by having large numbers of disulphides or cyclic 
backbones.

And also there have been plenty of "structures" done of small
ordinary peptides by NMR, but these are uniformly found to be 
rather flexible.

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu May 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: abonvin@LAPLACE.CSB.YALE.EDU ("Alexandre Bonvin")
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> 

> Let me have one more comment on this issue.  The transition between 

> "stable" and "dynamic" is not only extremely fuzzy based on individual 

> properties of the molecules and their environment, but this 

> classification is questionable for all systems we study.  The term 

> "dynamic" has different meaning for various spectroscopy methods with 

> different time scale.  Also, it is usually our -- wishful -- expectation 

> to find THE structure even for large molecules with lots of constraints.  

> In reality the whole (or segments of the) molecule is largely mobile, and 

> there are several structures which satisfy the measured parameters.  

> There are plenty of examples of such behaviour in the current 

> literature;  eglin c is a nice example from Gerhard Wagner's lab, among 

> many others.  Warnings have been presented several times (from Oleg 

> Jardetzky, for example) about the dangers of the "static" description of 

> such structures.  ...
> Istvan

I agree with Istvan comments and his warnings about the dangers of the "static"  
description of such structures". More appropriate approches can be used in case  
of conformational variability or dynamical character of proteins (or parts of  
it (e.g. loops)). Basically, two methods can be used in the structure  
calculations to account for such processes: time- or ensemble-averaged  
constraints. The choice will depend on the time scale of the averaging  
processes in solution. A danger of such approaches, however, is that we  
introduce more parameters when fitting our NMR data and might end up  
overfitting them. I have been working on developing methods to assess the  
validity of multi-conformer (or ensemble-averaged) refinement in NMR structure  
determination. Cross-validation can be used for this purporse (the idea the  
crystallographic free R-factor applied to NMR). These results will appear in  
JMB, but I also intend to present a poster in the "NET SUMMER POSTER SESSION on  
NMR" on the web. For information about this poster session contact one of the  
following persons:

Bryan Finn, bryan@freja.fkem2.lth.se
Kevin Gardner, gardner@zinc.csb.yale.edu
Barry Hardy, bhardy@convex.ox.ac.uk

Alexandre

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu May 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: DWHYTE@pharmacy.ualberta.ca (Don Whyte)
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Subject: looking for non-magnetic chairs
Date: 5 May 1995 14:43:10 GMT
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Dear Netters

We would like to find where to buy office chairs made of 
non-magnetic material to use in our 300 mhz NMR room. 
The NMR field is affected by movement of steel chairs.

Please respond to above address.

Thanks

Don Whyte

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Dear Netters,

I have a question concerning peptide conformation in aqueous 
solution.

It has been shown that secondary structure formation in aqueous 
solution should be negligible for all short peptides (shorter than 13 - 15 aa 
or so). 
Increased chain length moves along with secondary structure formation: Medium 
size peptides may present a population with secondary structure in a rapid 
equilibrium with random, mainly extended, conformations.
Large peptides/proteins beyond a certain chain length show stable 
(super-) secondary and tertiary structures (quite stable and somehow 
dynamic, too).

My question is:

WERE (AT WHICH SIZE) IS THE APPROXIMATE TRANSITION "DYNAMIC - STABLE"? 
                 (aqueous solution no detergents etc., room-temperature)

(Of course, secondary/tertiary structure formation strongly depends on 
physico-chemical properties of the bulk solution, the primary structure, 
temperature etc., too)

Since I'm working on synthetic peptides you would help me a lot.

Thank you for your time,

Thomas






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I believe there is no general answer to your question.  The behaviour of 
the peptide is a function of individual character of the structure, and 
other parameters not listed yet, such as pH, ionic strength, etc.  Also,  
in some cases the population of various conformations can be mapped out 
by careful analysis of the NMR information (see papers from Ernst's lab 
on antamanide, and Renzo Bazzo has developed some tools for thi to my 
best knowledge, too).
Sincerely,

Istvan


================================
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Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
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fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)
On Thu, 4 May 1995, Thomas Schnibbe wrote:

> 
> Dear Netters,
> 
> I have a question concerning peptide conformation in aqueous 
> solution.
> 
> It has been shown that secondary structure formation in aqueous 
> solution should be negligible for all short peptides (shorter than 13 - 15 aa 
> or so). 
> Increased chain length moves along with secondary structure formation: Medium 
> size peptides may present a population with secondary structure in a rapid 
> equilibrium with random, mainly extended, conformations.
> Large peptides/proteins beyond a certain chain length show stable 
> (super-) secondary and tertiary structures (quite stable and somehow 
> dynamic, too).
> 
> My question is:
> 
> WERE (AT WHICH SIZE) IS THE APPROXIMATE TRANSITION "DYNAMIC - STABLE"? 
>                  (aqueous solution no detergents etc., room-temperature)
> 
> (Of course, secondary/tertiary structure formation strongly depends on 
> physico-chemical properties of the bulk solution, the primary structure, 
> temperature etc., too)
> 
> Since I'm working on synthetic peptides you would help me a lot.
> 
> Thank you for your time,
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ___ 
>  Thomas Schnibbe
> ___
>  Max-Planck-Institute for Molecular Genetics
> ___ 
>  Ihnestr. 73			tel	(0)30-84131280                                    
>  14195 Berlin			fax	(0)30-84131385
>  Germany			email	Schnibbe@MPIMG-Berlin-Dahlem.MPG.DE
> 
> 
> 

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu May 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: Alexej.Jerschow@jk.uni-linz.ac.at (Alexej Jerschow)
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Subject: Polypropylene/T1,T2-measurements
Date: 5 May 1995 03:39:53 -0700
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Hi !

I need a practicable sample preparation technique for removing oxygen in
polymer samples (polypropylene) dissolved in tetrachloroethane-d4 (or a
mixture of trichlorobenzene/benzene) for T1 and T2-measurements.

A severe problem is that the sample itself contains air occlusions. The
resultant solution (10 wt%) is very viscous and so common techniques like
N2 purging or evacuation/N2 filling seem not to be appropriate.

I would very much appreciate if someone could help me. 

AJ

----------------------------------------
Alexej Jerschow
Organic Chemistry
Johannes Kepler University Linz, Austria
Tel: (732) 2468-777 or (732) 246202



From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri May 05 23:00:00 1995
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From: gardner@cadmium.csb.yale.edu (Kevin Gardner)
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Alexandre Bonvin (abonvin@LAPLACE.CSB.YALE.EDU) wrote:
: crystallographic free R-factor applied to NMR). These results will 
: appear in JMB, but I also intend to present a poster in the "NET 
: SUMMER POSTER SESSION on NMR" on the web. For information about 
: this poster session contact one of the following persons:

: Bryan Finn, bryan@freja.fkem2.lth.se
: Kevin Gardner, gardner@zinc.csb.yale.edu
: Barry Hardy, bhardy@convex.ox.ac.uk

Thanks to Alexandre for the free publicity; I'll have to walk upstairs
to thank him again in person and buy him a beer.  

I'd like to take this opportunity to encourage any interested people
to check out a preliminary set of posters that we already have on the Web 
(Alexandre's is coming soon):

	http://zinc.csb.yale.edu/nmr/poster.html

An additional site at Oxford will be coming on-line soon to offer faster
responses to European participants.  We're still looking for participants
for this session, due to run in early June.  Check out our site or
contact one of the organizers (addresses above) for more information.

Thanks,
Kevin

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri May 05 23:00:00 1995
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From: CSMLN@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL ("m.lakshmi narayanan")
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Dear Sir/Madam,

     I am a chemist(M.Sc.)- cum - crystallographer(Ph.d.)

     Looking for a suitable position in a research
     laboratory.

     Those who have positions available may please
     ask for cv/biodata.

      Research Interest:

                1. Crystallography
                    (Macromolecular/Small molecular)

                2. drug designing

                3. molecular modelling

                4.  Protein, DNA  structure analysis

     expecting an earlier response
     thanking you

     sincerely yours
     M. Lakshmi Narayanan
     Department of Structural Biology
     Weizmann Institute of Science
     Rehovot 76100 ISRAEL

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri May 05 23:00:00 1995
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From: smb18@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Simon Brocklehurst (Bioc))
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Subject: Re: Q: stable peptide conformation in aqueous solution?
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Schnibbe@MPIMG-Berlin-Dahlem.MPG.DE (Thomas Schnibbe) writes:

>WERE (AT WHICH SIZE) IS THE APPROXIMATE TRANSITION "DYNAMIC - STABLE"? 
>                 (aqueous solution no detergents etc., room-temperature)

 At present, the transition is probably about 30-50 residues.  The 
smallest stable protein fold (with no ligands, disulphides, co-factors 
etc to help stabilization) yet discovered is that of the peripheral 
subunit-binding domain of 2-oxo acid dehydrogenase multienzyme complexes - 
the structure of a fragment of this multidomain "domain-and-linker" protein
indicated that 33 residues were highly ordered, with hints of looser 
structure extending a few residues towards the N-terminus. See:

  AU: BROCKLEHURST_SM, KALIA_YN, PERHAM_RN
  JN: TRENDS IN BIOCHEMICAL SCIENCES 1994 Vol.19 No.9 pp.360-361

  AU: KALIA_YN, BROCKLEHURST_SM, HIPPS_DS, APPELLA_E, SAKAGUCHI_K, PERHAM_RN
  JN: JOURNAL OF MOLECULAR BIOLOGY 1993 Vol.230 No.1 pp.323-341

The protein described in these references keeps pretty much all its
structure until about 55 degrees I think - and if, I recall correctly,
has a Tm of about 65 degrees.
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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri May 05 23:00:00 1995
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From: glturner@prairienet.org (Gary L. Turner)
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>Dear Netters
>
>We would like to find where to buy office chairs made of
>non-magnetic material to use in our 300 mhz NMR room.
>The NMR field is affected by movement of steel chairs.
>
>Please respond to above address.
>
>Thanks
>
>Don Whyte 
  At most lawn/garden centers, plastic lawn chairs are available.
They work extremely well, are totally plastic, and typically cost
about $10.
Gary Turner
Spectral Data Services, Inc
-- 

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sat May 06 23:00:00 1995
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subscribe


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 07 23:00:00 1995
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Alexej.Jerschow@jk.uni-linz.ac.at (Alexej Jerschow)

It has been a very long time since I had to worry about such things,
but....  Have you thought about putting the sample onto a vacuum line,
freezing the sample, evacuating the sample, Warming, freezing, etc.?  I
used to do this for my viscous samples many years ago.  If I remember we
did about 5-6 cycles.

Hope this helps.


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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 07 23:00:00 1995
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If anybody knows how I can get in tauch with any of the following:
F.  TOMA
A. MENEZ
B. GILQUIN
F. BONTEMS
Or if any of these is reading, I'd be happy to get an E-mail from them.
            It is regarding charybdotoxin's structure.
                         Ofer Markman.
            Markman@bcchem
            markman@bcchem.bc.edu
            markman@bcvms.bc.edu
            markman@bcchme.bc.edu
            Tel: 617 - 552 3905
            Fax: 617 - 552 2705

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 07 23:00:00 1995
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>>We would like to find where to buy office chairs made of
>>non-magnetic material to use in our 300 mhz NMR room.
>>The NMR field is affected by movement of steel chairs.
>>
>>Please respond to above address.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Don Whyte 
>  At most lawn/garden centers, plastic lawn chairs are available.
>They work extremely well, are totally plastic, and typically cost
>about $10.
>Gary Turner

I have tried a few varieties of these, but BEWARE of STATIC...BZZzzzt!

Many of these chairs can build-up a huge static charge just by the
sliding of one's hindquarters which occurs in the process of getting
in and out of the chair...

Just something to think about....I generally shop for 100%, old-fashioned,
wood furniture...not very sexy looking, but functional and without the
annoying static problem.

Richard Shoemaker, Ph.D.                        Phone--(402) 472-6255
Instrumentation Director, Chemistry             FAX----         -9402
Research Associate Professor, Chemistry
University of Nebraska-Lincoln   
URL:  http://wwitch.unl.edu/nmrlab.html        

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 08 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Compatibility of Varian and Bruker probes.
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Hello fellow NMR spectroscopists:

Does any one have any experiences or knowledge of the possibility of using a 
Varian Probe on a Bruker AMX spectrometer? My particular interest would be 
using a Varian NanoProbe on a Bruker AMX spectrometer. Are there physical 
limitation with respect to the relative sizes of the probes, and/or are there 
electronic limitations? Could these be rectified by a competent electronics 
workshop?

I would be very grateful to receive all opinions and suggestions.

Best wishes,

Lesley MacLachlan.

Dr Lesley K MacLachlan   Tel: +44-1438-78-2007
Analytical Sciences    Fax: +44 -1438-78-2570
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals e-mail: Lesley_K_Maclachlan%notes@sb.com
The Frythe
Welwyn
Hertfordshire AL6 9AR
United Kingdom.


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 08 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: SDS/micelles & peptide NMR
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Hi Netters:

I have a peptide that I would like to look at in the presence of
SDS or in micelles (deuterated of course).  Can anyone point me
to a good reference that would give conditions such as SDS
concentration, micelle preparation, etc.?

Thanks in advance.


-- 
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On Tue, 9 May 1995, Krzysztof Wroblewski wrote:

> I am looking for a manufacturer of NMR bioreactors. There was such a company
> presenting this kind of reactors last year in San Francisco (MRM Meeting) but
> I lost all information I had.
> 
> Krzysztof Wroblewski
> 

I have no address for a manufacturer, but if you'd consider to build your 
own, then I'd recommend to contact Hadassa Degani 
(cidegani@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il).  I have heard an impressive 
presentation of her about their own bioreactor for NMR studies using 
beads.  Hope it is something you can use.
Good luck,

Istvan


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Istvan Pelczer, Ph.D.
Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 08 23:00:00 1995
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I am looking for a manufacturer of NMR bioreactors. There was such a company
presenting this kind of reactors last year in San Francisco (MRM Meeting) but
I lost all information I had.

Krzysztof Wroblewski

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 08 23:00:00 1995
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Hi Barry:

> I have a peptide that I would like to look at in the presence of
> SDS or in micelles (deuterated of course).  Can anyone point me
> to a good reference that would give conditions such as SDS
> concentration, micelle preparation, etc.?

Here are some citations that you might find useful.  Stan Opella's group
at Penn State has done a significant amount of work on this subject.  In
one of their papers which appeared in Science (vide infra), increasing
the [SDS] much beyond the cmc resulted in excellent dispersion of peaks.
I would also recommend a follow-up on the works from Brian Sykes' group.

Opella SJ; Kim Y; McDonnell P.
     Experimental nuclear magnetic resonance studies of membrane proteins.
   Methods in Enzymology, 1994, 239:536-60.

MCDONNELL PA; OPELLA SJ.
     EFFECT OF DETERGENT CONCENTRATION ON MULTIDIMENSIONAL SOLUTION NMR SPECTRA
   OF MEMBRANE PROTEINS IN MICELLES.
     JOURNAL OF MAGNETIC RESONANCE SERIES B, 1993 AUG, V102 N1:120-125.

SHON KJ; KIM YG; COLNAGO LA; OPELLA SJ.
      NMR STUDIES OF THE STRUCTURE AND DYNAMICS OF MEMBRANE-BOUND
    BACTERIOPHAGE-PFL COAT PROTEIN.
      SCIENCE, 1991 MAY 31, V252 N5010:1303-1304.

Henry GD; Sykes BD.
     Methods to study membrane protein structure in solution.
   Methods in Enzymology, 1994, 239:515-35.

Other related references:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gilbert GE; Baleja JD.
     Membrane-binding peptide from the C2 domain of factor VIII forms an
     amphipathic structure as determined by NMR spectroscopy.
   Biochemistry, 1995 Mar 7, 34(9):3022-31.

van de Ven FJ; van Os JW; Aelen JM; Wymenga SS; Remerowski ML; Konings RN;
        Hilbers CW.
      Assignment of 1H, 15N, and backbone 13C resonances in
      detergent-solubilized M13 coat protein via multinuclear multidimensional
      NMR: a model for the coat protein monomer.
    Biochemistry, 1993 Aug 17, 32(32):8322-8.

Papavoine CH; Konings RN; Hilbers CW; van de Ven FJ.
     Location of M13 coat protein in sodium dodecyl sulfate micelles as
     determined by NMR.
   Biochemistry, 1994 Nov 8, 33(44):12990-7.

Young JK; Anklin C; Hicks RP.
     NMR and molecular modeling investigations of the neuropeptide substance P
     in the presence of 15 mM sodium dodecyl sulfate micelles.
   Biopolymers, 1994 Nov, 34(11):1449-62.

PERVUSHIN KV; OREKHOV VY; POPOV AI; MUSINA LY; and others.
     THREE-DIMENSIONAL STRUCTURE OF (1-71)BACTERIOOPSIN SOLUBILIZED IN
   METHANOL/CHLOROFORM AND SDS MICELLES DETERMINED BY N-15-H-1 HETERONUCLEAR
   NMR SPECTROSCOPY.
     EUROPEAN JOURNAL OF BIOCHEMISTRY, 1994 JAN 15, V219 N1-2:571-583.

Graham WH; Carter ES 2d; Hicks RP.
      Conformational analysis of Met-enkephalin in both aqueous solution and in
      the presence of sodium dodecyl sulfate micelles using multidimensional
      NMR and molecular modeling.
    Biopolymers, 1992 Dec, 32(12):1755-64.

Hope this helps.
-raman
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Dear Lesley,

I suppose you already have the Varian probe, if so, then my advise is not 
very helpful.  However, if you don't, and wanted to acquire a probe, then 
Nalorac's microprobe seems to be pretty good (this is not personal 
experience, but I've seen presentations at ENC), and you'd have no 
compatibility problem either.  Their pricing is quite competitive, too (I 
asked for quotes recently -- although European prices could be different).
Good luck, with my best regards,

Istvan


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Dear NMR colleagues.

Does anyone out there have any good advice on setting up 3D TOCSY-NOESY
experiments on peptides (ca 30 aa residues) in SDS micelles, in 
90 % H2O/10% D2O. Suggestions concerning processing and analyzing such
a data set would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Jon B. Hauksson
E-mail: jbhauk@alchemy.che.umu.se

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  We have started working with peptides in SDS-micelles, and becouse this is 
new to us, of course we ran into some problems.
  We have measured ordinary 2D NOESY spectrum of a peptide in 
SDS-micelles at 40 C. The concentration of the peptide was 1mM, and the 
concentration of the SDS was 200 mM. SDS was deuterated. Water was suppressed 
by transmitter presaturation, and also during the mixing time. However, water
signal was still too big. The gain was 20 out of 60, but we would like to 
get bigger gain. Higher temperature is a problem, as the peptide seems to 
aggregate at 50 C.

  Have any of you had problems with water signals when using 
SDS-micelles? What could be the reason for it? Is there a good pulse 
sequence for the water suppression, or some other method to better 
water saturation?

--
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On 11 May 1995, Kimmo Paakkonen wrote:

>   We have started working with peptides in SDS-micelles, and becouse this is 
> new to us, of course we ran into some problems.
>   We have measured ordinary 2D NOESY spectrum of a peptide in 
> SDS-micelles at 40 C. The concentration of the peptide was 1mM, and the 
> concentration of the SDS was 200 mM. SDS was deuterated. Water was suppressed 
> by transmitter presaturation, and also during the mixing time. However, water
> signal was still too big. The gain was 20 out of 60, but we would like to 
> get bigger gain. Higher temperature is a problem, as the peptide seems to 
> aggregate at 50 C.
> 
>   Have any of you had problems with water signals when using 
> SDS-micelles? What could be the reason for it? Is there a good pulse 
> sequence for the water suppression, or some other method to better 
> water saturation?
> 
> --
> 		Kimmo Paakkonen
> 		Email: 	paakkone@cc.helsinki.fi


There are certainly better methods than saturation of the water signal, 
which has been proven to degrade the overall sensitivity of the 
experiment through saturation transfer (which may be not uniform 
either).  Hard pulse combinations which have no excitation at the water 
frequency (the jump-and-return [JR] pulse-pair is one of the most simple and 
yet quite efficient) are one family of methods (a good review can be 
found in Progress in NMR Spectroscopy from '92 or '93).   Soft pulses are 
alternatives, such as NODE-1 published from Tom James' laboratory at UCSF in 
JMR in '94 (I guess -- sorry not having the full references for this 
quick response;  I can find them if necessary) or shifted soft pulses 
(Steve Smallcombe has a nice paper in JACS in '94 about such applications).

Should you have gradients in your hardware WATERGATE is probably the best 
method to date (Vladimir Sklenar published it with others in JMR, also in 
one of the recent Bruker Reports).

Data processing is an additional tool for cleaning the spectrum from the
residual signal and to avoid baseline problems -- time domain filtering 
is the most efficient approach, however, there are other alternatives, 
too.  (We, Brian Carter from the UK and myself have a review on nD NMR 
data processing submitted for publication, which has a section about this 
-- I'll be happy to send you the relevant part with references listed if 
you wish.)

This is intended to be a quick and brief reflection to your question for now 
-- I guess others will have more comments, too.  Good luck,
Best regards,

Istvan


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Hello everybody,

does anyone know if the programs MARDIGRAS and CORMA
are available at any ftp site ??

May l have the address ??

bye,bye

Ath. Stavrakoudis
Univ. IOannina
GREECE


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In article <9505121714.AA02553@solon.cc.uoi.gr> astavrak@cc.uoi.gr  
(Athanasios Stavrakoudis) writes:

> does anyone know if the programs MARDIGRAS and CORMA
> are available at any ftp site ??
> 
There is a web page that should give you information. Check

http://picasso.ucsf.edu/software.html

Alexandre

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri May 12 23:00:00 1995
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Dear netters,

To assist study NMR solution structure of the protein I am 
currently working on I have been writing an interactive auto 
assignment program using both C-shield and Felix macro. I 
am using chemical shift data provided by Felix for the spin 
system pattern recognition right now. What I have found is 
that some chemical shift ranges for individual peak is not 
wide enough. Although my program is not much depended 
on the this data the better chemical shift data will still make 
things better. 
My question is that is anybody knows where I can find 
better chemical shift data (base) or who should I contact to 
get this kind of data?
BTW, spin system assignment in this program is based on 
the fact that the best pattern recognition tool up to date is 
human eyes (correct me if I'm wrong). I let machine provide 
suggestions and human eyes make the choice. Everything 
is visualized at pattern recognition step.  
Thanks in advance.

Dr. Sheng Zhong
Dept of Biochem & Biophys
UNC at Chapel Hill

sheng@med.unc.edu

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From: klassen@walnut (Bryan Klassen)
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Barry--
  Raman's refs are on the money. I work in Stan Opella's lab. I am not one of
those who do much solution NMR (I'm a solids guy), but I can pass on your 
inquiries if the refs are insufficient for you. It's better to email me 
directly, since I don't check this newsgroup more than once weekly.
I am at klassen@walnut.chem.upenn.edu.  Other people in my group who could
be helpful:  Ruth Steele, at steele@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu; and
Jennifer Gesell, gesell@chestnut.chem.upenn.edu.
  I typically prepared my samples by taking 5 mg protein, adding 80 mg
of deuterated SDS, 450 uL of 40 mM NaCl, and adjusted the pH to 4.0. I
then lyophilized the sample and redissolved the residue in 400uL H2O +
50 uL D2O. You want to keep the SDS concentration high to make sure you 
have protein monomers. See J. Mol. Biol. 1993 233 447-463. This corrects an
error from the results reported in Biochem 1992 31 5284-5297.

Cheers,
Bryan Klassen


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From: raman@BIOC01.UTHSCSA.EDU (C.S.RAMAN)
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Subject: Re: chemical shift data base
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Sheng:

> My question is that is anybody knows where I can find 
> better chemical shift data (base) or who should I contact to 
> get this kind of data?

The chemical shift data used by Felix is from Gross and Kalbitzer [1988]
J. Magn. Reson. 76, 87.  In a recent review (see Methods in Enzymology
[1994] 239, 363-392), Wishart and Sykes discuss in detail about using
chemical shifts in structure determination.  One nice thing about this
review is that it describes the pitfalls and underscores the importance
of establishing a consistency in the chemical shift data reported by
different labs.  This review also contains a table of Random coil
chemical shifts for backbone atoms in proteins and includes corrections
to an appropriate reference.  

NMR-TRIAD from Tripos utilizes the chemical shift data base from Sykes'
group. For additional information you can reach Prof. Sykes at the
following address:

bds@polaris.biochem.ualberta.ca

Cheers
-raman

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I guess Peter forgot Str-NMR and hence I am forwarding his message to
the net.

Cheers
-raman

> From: "Peter LUNDBERG"  <peterl@umdix.umdc.umu.se>
> Dear Spectroscopists,
> 
> I have updated the Educational NMR Software list a little to version 1.1.1.
> 
> If anyone is interested you can probably pick up a fresh copy soon from some of 
> the following sites:
> 
> http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/chem/nmr/edusoft.html
> http://tutor.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de/nmrsoft.html
> ftp.bruker.de (149.236.1.1):/pub/nmr/processing
> http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/NMR/PUBSoftware.html
> ftp://tesla.york.ac.uk/pub/edusoft
> ftp://alchemy.chem.umu.se/incoming (or /chemistry)
> http://atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu:8080/cdept.docs/NMRsware.html
> 
> Please contact me by email if you have any suggestions, or comments. 
>Email: PeterL@umdix.umdc.umu.se              
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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 14 23:00:00 1995
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Dear Spectroscopists,

I have updated the Educational NMR Software list a little to version
1.1.1.

If anyone is interested you can probably pick up a fresh copy soon from
some of the following sites:

http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/chem/nmr/edusoft.html
http://tutor.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de/nmrsoft.html
ftp.bruker.de (149.236.1.1):/pub/nmr/processing
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ftp://alchemy.chem.umu.se/incoming (or /chemistry)
http://atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu:8080/cdept.docs/NMRsware.html

Please contact me by email if you have any suggestions, or comments.
Sorry about the cross-posting.

73, Peter


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Hi Dr Zhong,


>  What I have found is that some chemical shift ranges for individual peak
>  is not wide enough. Although my program is not much depended on the this
>  data the better chemical shift data will still make things better.


  I can send you a database of chemical shifts that was originally compiled
by Dr David Wishart;  it is a few more years' recent than what you have
with Felix.  Nonetheless, you will probably find the chemical shift ranges
do not change that much.  Instead I would suggest that you re-evaluate the
criterion/criteria that your program uses for determining if a peak is
within the accepted range.  I suggest you look at the article by
  Jun Xu et al., J. Biol. NMR 5 (1995) 183-192.

>  BTW, spin system assignment in this program is based on
>  the fact that the best pattern recognition tool up to date is
>  human eyes (correct me if I'm wrong).

You are both wrong and right!  The human eye (really, the human brain) is
excelled at pattern recognition.  However it can be easily fooled when
performing assignments, by (1) ignoring patterns that are "not expected"
but are quite correct (for example, the BPTI amide proton at 4.53ppm,
or geminal protons with chemical shift deviations of >2 ppm, etc.); or
(2) by "recognizing" the obvious pattern, but missing the less obvious one.
Jun Xu shows a good example of this with one of those childrens' drawings
where when the picture is viewed "right-side up", you see a princess, but
rotate the page 180 degrees and you see the "beast."  Hence there is a
real need for software tools that assist or automate assignments that
will be as perceptive as the human brain, but avoid the biases that we
learn.



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Dear all,

I have updated my html version of Peter Lundeberg's EduNMRSoft list.  
You can browse it on the net at:

http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/chem/nmr/edusoft.html

or obtain a copy from:

ftp://tesla.york.ac.uk/pub/edusoft/


Many thanks to Peter for an invaluable document.


Graham

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: m-gradwe@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Mike Gradwell)
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Subject: XPLOR calculations on Heme Proteins
Date: 15 May 1995 08:46:13 GMT
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Dear Colleagues,
		We are attempting to devise a topology for a heme protein in Xplor
for an NMR structure determination, and are experiencing problems. This lies in
correctly defining Heme ligation to the histidines on the protein. We have
followed examples in Xplor and used the PATCH statement, but the histidines always
move to the same side of the heme!!!
	Has anyone had any succes with calculations of this type?
Mike Gradwell, National Institute for Medical Research
Fred Muskett, Queen Mary and Westfield College

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 14 23:00:00 1995
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From: Jon Hauksson <jbhauk>
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Dear Colleagues.
Is there anyone out there who has experirence in running heteronuclear 3D NMR
on peptides of proteins that do not contain any isotopically enriched labels. I
am working on a difficult assignment problem with a 28 amino acids long peptide
in SDS micelles, wher spectral overlap between hydrophobic residues is a
serious problem. Tips on minimum sample concentrations, sutiable pulse
sequences, approximate measuring times, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
 
Sincerely
Jon B. Hauksson
Department of Physical Chemistry,
Umea University
S-901 87 Umea 
SWEDEN
E-mail:	jbhauk@alchemy.chem.umu.se


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Dear Lesley, (and those interested in chemical shifts for amino acids)

I have run across two papers recently, which could be interesting for you I 
guess: 
Wishart, D. S., et al.;  1H, 13C and 15N random coil NMR chemical shifts
of the common amino acids. I.  Investigations of nearest-neighbor effects
J. Biomol. NMR 5(1995)67-81 (I have a feeling that Alexandre has 
mentioned this earlier)
and Merutka, G., Dyson, H. J., and Wright, P. E.;  'Random coil' 1H 
chemical shifts obtained as a function of temperature and trifluoroethanol
concentration for the peptide series GGXGG  J. Biomol. NMR 5(1995)14-24

All the best,

Istvan


================================
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Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
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                      Subject:                              Time:  10:35 PM
  OFFICE MEMO         13-C shift prediction                 Date:  16/5/95
I am interested in predicting resonance shifts of some short chain hydroxy
acids upon complexation with main group metals eg. Al(III) in aqueous and
non-aqueous media. Does anyone know of any lit. reports, and how usable they
might be ?

Thanks
Julian Salerno
Chemistry
Melbourne University
Australia



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    >> INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON MOLECULAR STRUCTURAL BIOLOGY <<
   
             Organized by the Austrian Chemical Society

              Vienna (Austria), September 17-20, 1995


TOPICS:

      1) The Impact of Molecular Biology on Structural Biology
      2) Biomolecular Structure Determination
                  a) X-Ray Diffraction
                  b) NMR Spectroscopy
      3) Dynamics and Function of Biomolecules
      4) Computational Methods
      5) Protein Engineering and Design


The scientific programme is designed to cover a broad range of disciplines in
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lectures, posters, discussions and exhibitions.


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1. The impact of Molecular Biology on Structural Biology

	C.Cantor (USA) "Application of Streptavidin and
		Genetically Engineered Variants"
	T.Blundell (GB) "Protein Super Families: Genome
		Analyses and Drug Discovery"

2. Biomolecular Structure Determination
   
   a) X-Ray Crystallography

	R.Huber (D) "Proteolytic Enzymes and Their Natural
		Inhibitors - New Functions and New Structures
		and No End in Sight"
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		Implications of Series of Cyclophilin-Cyclosporin
		Crystal Complexes"
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Tuesday (19.9.)
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   b) NMR Spectroscopy

	O.Jardetzky (USA) "Flexibility and Function in a DNA
		Binding Protein - the Trp-Repressor of E.Coli"
	P.Roesch (D) "The Structure of Iron-Sulfur Proteins
		in Solution"
	C.Dobson (GB) "The Structural Basis of Protein Folding"

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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 15 23:00:00 1995
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From: Lesley_K_Maclachlan%notes@sb.com (Lesley K Maclachlan)
Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr
Subject: D-amino acids in chemical shift index calculations.
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Dear fellow NMR spectroscopists,

I'd like to pick up on the recent discussions on the use of chemical shift 
databases and the chemical shift index with reference to a particular problem 
we have in house. We are looking at a pair of peptides which differ only by a 
point mutation, Thr to d-Trp, and we'd like to use the chemical shift index to 
characterise any changes in secondary structure as a result of the mutation. 
The Wishart-Sykes tables for calculating the CSI don't refer to d-amino acids - 
does anyone have any information on how to manage these in CSI calculations, or 
the applicability of the original chemical shift tables? I'd be very pleased to 
hear any comments on this subject. 

On a related subject, we are using the CSI to characterise the conformations of 
peptides in trifluoroethanol solution. Using the above-mentioned tables, we get 
pretty good results overall, except that Leu and Ile residues give results that 
we would not expect (eg. in a stretch of alpha-helix, -1 index, these residues 
score 0). I was wondering if this was a sheer coincidence or if this is as a 
result of applying the analysis to a TFE solution. Any ideas?

Yours,
Lesley MacLachlan

Dr L K MacLachlan
Analytical Science
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
The Frythe
Welwyn 
Herts. AL6 9AR
United Kingdom.

Tel.: +44-1438-78-2007
Fax: +44-1438-78-2570
E-mail: Lesley_K_Maclachlan%notes@sb.com


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 15 23:00:00 1995
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Hi,

Thanks very much everyone for providing me the address 
and references regarding to chemical shift data. I wish I 
had known the address of this database earlier. 
Dr. Paul Weber raised a very interesting question 
regarding pattern recognition. He is 100% right that human 
will be fooled sometime. I also want to add a point to his 
argument that the degrees of successfully recognizing 
certain patterns will vary from person to person. One of the 
best pattern recognition tool that I know of is neural 
network. I am not sure if it can beat human or not. I am 
willing to learn more about the this matter and will 
appreciate any advice regarding to it.  
I just wrote a match maker to match my protein against 
sequences of database. This is just a curiosity. I cannot 
match more than 4 residues of my protein against 
database. I don't know if anyone have ever done the 
similar match study and what is the result.

Ragards,

Dr. Sheng Zhong
Dept of Biochem & Biophys
UNC at Chapel Hill 

sheng@med.unc.edu


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As I recall, Horst Kessler's lab has published papers on such experiments -- 
there were few in JACS and JBN, possibly in JMR, too.  Sorry not having 
full reference handy.  Should not you find them I'll dig them up.  Good luck,

Istvan


================================
Istvan Pelczer, Ph.D.
Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)


On 12 May 1995, Jon Hauksson wrote:

> Dear Colleagues.
> Is there anyone out there who has experirence in running heteronuclear 3D NMR
> on peptides of proteins that do not contain any isotopically enriched labels. I
> am working on a difficult assignment problem with a 28 amino acids long peptide
> in SDS micelles, wher spectral overlap between hydrophobic residues is a
> serious problem. Tips on minimum sample concentrations, sutiable pulse
> sequences, approximate measuring times, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>  
> Sincerely
> Jon B. Hauksson
> Department of Physical Chemistry,
> Umea University
> S-901 87 Umea 
> SWEDEN
> E-mail:	jbhauk@alchemy.chem.umu.se
> 
> 
> 

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Wed May 17 23:00:00 1995
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From: KHIGGINS@CCS1.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU ("MS K HIGGINS [BIC]")
Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr
Subject: resin bound peptides
Date: 17 May 1995 22:30:43 -0700
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Hi
I have had a query concerning NMR studies of resin bound peptides 
from solid phase synthesis and was wondering if there is anyone out 
who has had some experience undertaking such studies.
Thanks in advance,
Kerry

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Hi Netters
The following request appeared recently from Kerry Higgins

>Hi
>I have had a query concerning NMR studies of resin bound peptides
>from solid phase synthesis and was wondering if there is anyone out
>who has had some experience undertaking such studies.
>Thanks in advance,
>

 I have no hands on experience, but have collected the following references
which may be of some help.


Record - 1

TI- HIGH-RESOLUTION H-1-NMR IN SOLID-PHASE ORGANIC-SYNTHESIS
AU- FITCH, WL;DETRE, G;HOLMES, CP;SHOOLERY, JN;KEIFER, PA
JN- JOURNAL OF ORGANIC CHEMISTRY
PY- 1994
VO- 59
NO- 26
PG- 7955-7956

Record - 2

TI- APPLICATION OF 1D AND 2D GEL-PHASE C-13 NMR TO SOLID-PHASE SYNTHESIS
AU- JOHN, V;ROBINSON, CY;SHETTY, HU;BRYANT, K;DAVIS, D
JN- ABSTRACTS OF PAPERS OF THE AMERICAN CHEMICAL SOCIETY
PY- 1991
VO- 201
NO- APR
PG- 148-ANYL

Record - 3

TI- ANALYSIS OF THE STRUCTURE OF SYNTHETIC AND NATURAL MELANINS BY 
    SOLID-PHASE NMR
AU- DUFF, GA;ROBERTS, JE;FOSTER, N
JN- BIOCHEMISTRY
PY- 1988
VO- 27
NO- 18
PG- 7112-7116

Record - 4

TI- SOLID-PHASE HIGH-RESOLUTION NUCLEAR MAGNETIC-RESONANCE
AU- FOLTZ, MB
JN- BOLETIN DE LA SOCIEDAD CHILENA DE QUIMICA
PY- 1988
VO- 33
NO- 3
PG- A 17-A 20

Record - 5

TI- NEW ANCHORS USEFUL IN SOLID-PHASE PEPTIDE-SYNTHESIS, EVIDENCE OF AN UNEXPECTED POLYACRYLIC SUPPORTED REACTION BY NON DESTRUCTIVE C-13 NMR-SPECTROSCOPY AND TANDEM MASS-SPECTROMETRY
AU- ALFRED, JC;AUBAGNAC, JL;CALMES, M;DAUNIS, J;ELAMRANI, B;JACQUIER, R;NKUSI, G 
JN- TETRAHEDRON
PY- 1988
VO- 44
NO- 14
PG- 4407-4413

Record - 6

TI- SOLID-PHASE PEPTIDE-SYNTHESIS AND SOLID-STATE NMR-SPECTROSCOPY OF 
    [ALA3-N-15][VAL1]GRAMICIDIN-A
AU- FIELDS, GB;FIELDS, CG;PETEFISH, J;VANWART, HE;CROSS, TA
JN- PROCEEDINGS OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF 
    AMERICA
PY- 1988
VO- 85
NO- 5
PG- 1384-1388

Record - 7

TI- SOLID-PHASE SYNTHESIS AND SOLID-STATE N-15 NMR-SPECTROSCOPY OF 
    GRAMICIDIN-A, GRAMICIDIN-B, AND GRAMICIDIN-C
AU- FIELDS, CG;LOGRASSO, PV;CROSS, TA
JN- FASEB JOURNAL
PY- 1988
VO- 2
NO- 4
PG- A 320-A 320

Record - 8

TI- GEL PHASE C-13 NMR-SPECTROSCOPY AS AN INVESTIGATIVE TOOL IN ULTRAHIGH LOAD SOLID (GEL) PHASE PEPTIDE-SYNTHESIS
AU- EPTON, R;WELLINGS, DA
JN- REACTIVE POLYMERS ION EXCHANGERS SORBENTS
PY- 1987
VO- 6
NO- 2-3
PG- 333-333

Record - 9

TI- SOLID-PHASE PEPTIDE-SYNTHESIS - STRUCTURAL CHARACTERIZATION BY H-1-NMR OF A PEPTIDE IMMOBILIZED ON A POLYACRYLIC RESIN
AU- MAZURE, M;CALAS, B;CAVE, A;PARELLO, J
JN- COMPTES RENDUS DE L ACADEMIE DES SCIENCES SERIE II-MECANIQUE PHYSIQUE 
    CHIMIE SCIENCES DE L UNIVERS SCIENCES DE LA TERRE
PY- 1986
VO- 303
NO- 7
PG- 553-556

Record - 10

TI- APPLICATION OF GEL-PHASE C-13-NMR TO MONITOR SOLID-PHASE 
    PEPTIDE-SYNTHESIS
AU- GIRALT, E;RIZO, J;PEDROSO, E
JN- TETRAHEDRON
PY- 1984
VO- 40
NO- 20
PG- 4141-4152

Record - 11

TI- APPLICATION OF NMR C-13 SPECTROSCOPY TO CONTROL OVER THE 
    PEPTIDE-SYNTHESIS OF FRAGMENT 20-24 OF THE ACTH AMINO-ACID-SEQUENCE
AU- SVERGUN, VI;SMIRNOV, MB;ANTONOV, AA;KRYSIN, EP;PANOV, VP;NIKITINA, TK
JN- KHIMIKO-FARMATSEVTICHESKII ZHURNAL
PY- 1981
VO- 15
NO- 5
PG- 92-97

Make the beads spin!

David Guthrie

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sat May 20 23:00:00 1995
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From: bijt@zeus.bris.ac.uk (J. Takei)
Subject: Seeking an NMR post
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Dear Netters,

I'm looking for a graduate assistantship in the field of biomolecular NMR
and other spectroscopic studies in biochemistry. I'm extensively experienced
in NMR together with CD and Raman. Fluent in Unix, Vax, Windows, Macintosh.
Very good knowledge in Felix and X-plor. Techniques used: amide exchange,
reconstitution of peptide into vesicles, HPLC.

Hoping to hear from you.

Regards,

Jiro Takei
Dept. of Biochemistry
University of Bristol
UK

*44-117-928-9000 x.4971
*44-117-928-8274 (fax)

*44-117-927-3890 (home)

j.takei@bris.ac.uk


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 21 23:00:00 1995
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From: sodano@cnrs-orleans.fr ("patrick Sodano")
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Subject: seeking a software for image manipulation
Date: 22 May 1995 06:44:05 -0700
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Dear netters,
we are seeking a software for image manipulation that works on PCs. The 
goal is to integrate NMR spectra in a text and to include text in the 
spectra too. This is mainly for publication purposes. Any suggestions 
will be wellcome.

Thanks

P. Sodano
Centre de Biophysique Moleculaire
Rue Charles Sadron
45 000 Orleans Cedex 02
France

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 22 23:00:00 1995
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From: Matthias Niemitz <niemitz@skanssi.uku.fi>
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Subject: Re: seeking a software for image manipulation
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sodano@cnrs-orleans.fr ("patrick Sodano") wrote:
>Dear netters,
>we are seeking a software for image manipulation that works on PCs. The 
>goal is to integrate NMR spectra in a text and to include text in the 
>spectra too. This is mainly for publication purposes. Any suggestions 
>will be wellcome.
>
>Thanks
>
>P. Sodano
>Centre de Biophysique Moleculaire
>Rue Charles Sadron
>45 000 Orleans Cedex 02
>France

Most commercial NMR software packages (e.g. WinNMR, Nuts, Felix, PERCH)
provide copying of spectra via Windows clipboard in high resolution 
metafile format. A simple screen dump is also possible but quality is 
rather poor. Adding text directly is available only in WinNMR and PERCH 
(http://www.uku.fi/perch.html) but you can do that later within a text 
processor as well.

Regards,  Matthias Niemitz

Department of Chemistry            phone:        + 358 71 163241
University of Kuopio               fax:          + 358 71 163259
P.O.B. 1627                        e-mail: Matthias.Niemitz@uku.fi 
FIN-70211 Kuopio, FINLAND          WWW: http://www.uku.fi/perch.html



From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 22 23:00:00 1995
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From: uwoody@woody.acornnmr.com (Acorn NMR)
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 16:51:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Magnitude-mode Macro for Felix
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In article <zangger.168.000B66B2@email.kfunigraz.ac.at>, Klaus Zangger (zangger@email.kfunigraz.ac.at) writes:

>I am looking for a Macro to transform 2D magnitude-mode spectra in Bruker 
>format (acquired on a Bruker AM360). The Macro provided by our Felix version 
>(2.05) is damaged and all attempts to write a magnitude-mode Macro worked 
>only with data in complex format.
>Simply exchanging "ft" by "bft" (for D1 transform) wasn't successfull.


In the early days of Acorn NMR, we used DOS Felix for processing, and I
wrote macros for 2D processing, because it is definitely not obvious.
The DOS version was very similar to the UNIX version, so I hope this
macro will translate.  The confusing part has to do with how the data
are stored.  Felix stored complex data as alternating real and imaginary
points. Even though you keep the imaginary part til the end, you lie
to Felix and define the matrix type as Real. The real and imaginary data are
written to the matrix after the first FT as separate real and imaginary
halves, with odd numbered rows being real and even numbered rows being
imaginary. This also gets confusing because you lie to Felix about the
data size.  So after the D1 FT, there is the command "sep" which separates
the real and imaginary, so that the first half of the data points are
real and the second half are imaginary.  Then you tell it the data is
real and set size. Write one row to the matrix. Then you increment the row
counter, set the size to twice what it was, left shift to throw away the
real part. So now you have the imaginary half. Reset the size and store.
We have now saved the real and imaginary halves so that when read in the
2nd dimension they are alternating real and imaginary points and you will
do a complex FT.
Got all that?!
Note that this was *not* written for Bruker data, so you need to make the
D1 ft into a bft.


cl
get 'Enter data file name:' name
get 'No. of t1 slices?' nrow
get 'Size of each?' ncol
get 'Enter name for matrix file:' mname
eva double (2*&nrow)
eva twice (&ncol*2)
bld &mname 2 &ncol &double 0
mat &mname w
def rrow 1
def datype 1
def datsiz &ncol
for row 1 &nrow
rn &name
def datype 1
qss &ncol 0 .5
ft
rev
sep                     ; separate real & imag parts
def datype 0            ; data type = real
def datsiz &ncol        ; set size
sto 0 &rrow             ; write real half
eva rrow (&rrow+1)      ; increment counter
def datsiz &twice       ; double data size
shl &ncol               ; left shift to throw away 1st half (reals)
def datsiz &ncol        ; reset size
sto 0 &rrow             ; write imag half
eva rrow (&rrow+1)      ; increment counter
ty row=&row $
next                    ; end of loop for D1 processing
for col 1 &ncol
loa &col 0
def datype 1            ; data type = complex
def datsiz &nrow
zf &double
qss &nrow 0 .5
ft
ms                      ; magnitude spectrum
red                     ; reduce to real
sto &col 0
ty col=&col $
next
end



I hadn't looked at this in a couple of years, since our NUTS program
started doing 2D, and I had forgotten how convoluted it all was!
Good luck, hope this helps.

====================================================================
Virginia W. Miner                            Voice  (510) 683-8595
Acorn NMR Inc.                               FAX    (510) 683-6784
46560 Fremont Blvd., #418                Email  gina@acornnmr.com
Fremont, CA 94538-6491




From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 22 23:00:00 1995
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          NMR Poster95 - First Electronic NMR Poster Session
          **************************************************

The NMR Poster95 sites are up and running in preliminary format.
The actual session with discussion will run from June 12-16 '95.
If you are interested in participating please send in a
URL and email address.

The European site URL is:
http://bellatrix.pcl.ox.ac.uk/nmr/poster.html

The U.S. Site URL is:
http://zinc.csb.yale.edu/nmr/poster.html

The event is now on the front cover of the June edition of Magnetic Resonance
(The Internet Edition) at:
http://micro.ifas.ufl.edu/

Barry J. Hardy

ALSO:
****

BRYAN FINN wrote up a little piece to attempt to answer questions
he was getting over the event. Enclosed is what he wrote:

What is NMR POSTER95?

1. Are we affiliated with the Gordon Conf. or other conferences or 
   organizations?

   Answer:  No.  

2. Is anyone allowed to contribute a poster?  

   Answer:  Yes, just so it's NMR related.

3. Is the electronic poster session "registered" and is the data presented
   count in any way as an offical abstract?

   Answer:  Since we're not associated with any organization (at least not yet),
   the abstract won't be published anywhere that can be checked later to
   see if it actually existed.  However, publication of abstracts is not
   universally done at regular meetings either.

4. Is the data protected from "poaching" from competitors who might look at 
   the poster and then rush a similar study to press?

   Answer:  The data presented is entirely at the risk and responsibility of
   the presentor, just like any poster session or if you hung the poster 
   in the hall outside of your office.

5. Is there a possibility of conflict when it comes to data later (or 
   simultaneously) being published in a journal (i.e. copyright, etc.)?

   Answer:  Same as for question 4, it is entirely between the presenter and
   the publisher of the article.  However, I don't know of publishers 
   ever having a problem with posters and articles conflicting.  If there is
   a concern, use original figures.  

6. Is there a fee?

   Answer:  No, our direct costs are low, it only costs us the time to set up
   and organize the thing.

7. What is this anyway? (My personal favorite question)

   Answer:  Essentially, this is an experiment.  The history of 
this Net NMR Poster session is basically that Barry Hardy contacted some 
people before last years Gordon conf on Bio-NMR in NH to see if we were
interested in taking advantage of the WWW for fostering intercommunication 
in the NMR community.  We (Barry, Kevin, myself, and some others) just took
the opportunity of our all being at the GC to discuss what we could do in this
regard.  The most promising idea seemed to be a net poster session since,
just like a regular poster session, the participants each prepare their own 
work for presentation.  The Gordon conference is not associated with the
poster session in any official sponsoring way, it was just a convenient forum
to get together and get the "ball rolling".  
	Therefore, the session is rather informal and I'm sure will be a 
learning experience for us all both scientifically and organizationally.  The
session is open to anyone with an NMR related poster.  We are the organizers 
and at least two of us will run the main relay servers with links to the poster
presenters' URLs.  For those who do not have their own server, we are 
willing to mount their poster directly on one of our servers.  
        If you think you can get a poster ready by June 12th, send us the 
URL address on your server where it is located (e.g. my poster is at
http://www.fkem2.lth.se/personnel/bryan/poster/poster.html).  
Please let us know by June 1 if possible. If you absolutely can't get a poster 
ready by then but want to check out the session, just connect to one of 
the poster sites during June 12-16.  Although we'd prefer participants 
to contribute a poster, everyone is welcome to look in.



From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 22 23:00:00 1995
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From: ipelczer@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU (Istvan  Pelczer)
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There are probably several good alternatives;  Adobe Illustrator works 
very well for us.  An address in Europe:  Adobe Sysytems Europe B.V.,  
Europlaza, Hoogoorddreef 54a, 1101 BE Amsterdam Z.O., The Netherlands.
All the best,

Istvan


================================
Istvan Pelczer, Ph.D.
Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)


On 22 May 1995, patrick Sodano wrote:

> Dear netters,
> we are seeking a software for image manipulation that works on PCs. The 
> goal is to integrate NMR spectra in a text and to include text in the 
> spectra too. This is mainly for publication purposes. Any suggestions 
> will be wellcome.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> P. Sodano
> Centre de Biophysique Moleculaire
> Rue Charles Sadron
> 45 000 Orleans Cedex 02
> France
> 
> 

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Mon May 22 23:00:00 1995
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From: zangger@email.kfunigraz.ac.at (Klaus Zangger)
Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr
Subject: Magnitude-mode Macro for Felix
Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 11:23:59
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Dear Netters,

I am looking for a Macro to transform 2D magnitude-mode spectra in Bruker 
format (acquired on a Bruker AM360). The Macro provided by our Felix version 
(2.05) is damaged and all attempts to write a magnitude-mode Macro worked 
only with data in complex format.
Simply exchanging "ft" by "bft" (for D1 transform) wasn't successfull.
Help would be appreciated.

Klaus

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 23 23:00:00 1995
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From: ipelczer@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU (Istvan  Pelczer)
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Would anyone know a working email address for Tad Holak?  I'd very much 
appreciate to know it.  Thanks,

Istvan


================================
Istvan Pelczer, Ph.D.
Res. Assist. Professor
Chemistry Department, CST Bldg.
Syracuse University
Syracuse, NY 13244-4100
ph: (315) 443 1023 or x-5932
fax: x-1022(lab) or x-4070(dept)


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 23 23:00:00 1995
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From: lzeng@CURLY.BIOP.UMICH.EDU (Lei Zeng)
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I want to subscribe the str-nmr net. Thanks

Lei Zeng
Biophysics Research Division
The University of Michigan


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 23 23:00:00 1995
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From: sheng@MED.UNC.EDU (Sheng Zhong)
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Dear netters,

If anyone knows the e-mail address of Dr. Ulrich Hommel from
SANDOZ Switzerland please let me know.  

Dr. Sheng Zhong
Dept of Biochem & Biophys
UNC at Chapel Hill

sheng@med.unc.edu

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu May 25 23:00:00 1995
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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Thu May 25 23:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!fcu.um.es!boullon
From: boullon@fcu.um.es (Jose Villalain Boullon)
Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr
Subject: Help: conversion from ascii to FELIX binary format
Date: 26 May 1995 07:28:48 -0700
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     Dear netters:

     I have been trying for several days to convert an 2H-NMR spectrum 
saved either as an ascii file (ascii y data without header) or saved in 
WIN-NMR binary file format to the FELIX binary file format (Biosym 
Technologies). I have compiled the programs toasci.for and frasci.for which 
came with the FELIX package, as well as I have tried to use the filter 
programs which came with FELIX. However, no one of these compiled programs 
could read my data. I have converted the FELIX binary sample files *.dat 
into ascii with the FELIX command wa, and then I tried to write my data into 
this ascii format, however without success. 
     Is anybody there which has had the same problem and resolved
it ?. Any help will be much appreciated.



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   Edf.  Veterinaria
   Universidad  de  Murcia
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   E-30080  MURCIA  (Spain)

Tel. 34-68-307100 (Ext.2921)        Fax 34-68-364147
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From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Fri May 26 23:00:00 1995
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From: bphart@SUNCHEM.CHEM.UGA.EDU ("B. P. Hart")
Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr
Subject: info on fixed evolution hetcor sequence
Date: 27 May 1995 08:12:27 -0700
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To whom it may concern,
I am interesting in hearing from anyone who has in the past or is presently
running a HETCOR pulse sequence known as Fixed Evolution Hetcor.  The 
reference for this pulse sequence is as follows  Magnetic Resonance In
Chemistry, Vol 26, 358-361,  1988.  The authors are M. P. Dumont, W. R. Reynoldsand R. G. Enriquez.  I am especially interested in getting in touch with
anyone who might be able to mail me a printout of the pulse sequence 
that could run on a Bruker AC spectrometer.  
                                              B. Hart

From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Sun May 28 23:00:00 1995
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From: kapk4@central.susx.ac.uk (Chris Carpenter)
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Subject: Deconvolution of NMR spectra
Date: 29 May 1995 14:54:03 GMT
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Hi NMR NETTERS,
		does anyone know of a deconvolution program that is
availble on the net. I have a series of solid state NMR spectra to
investigate, the spectrometer doesn't have any program to do this
(Bruker ACP 250). Cheers in advance. Mail me if you can.
Chris Carpenter


From owner-structural-nmr@net.bio.net Tue May 30 23:00:00 1995
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From: th@mrc-cpe.cam.ac.uk (Tim Hubbard)
Newsgroups: bionet.structural-nmr
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: IRBM practical course: frontiers of protein structure 
         prediction
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Announcement: Call for applications
===================================

IRBM practical course: frontiers of protein structure prediction

The course is directed at young scientists with some experience and a
strong interest in protein structure and structure prediction who wish
to learn about the latest developments in the field.

        The aim of the workshop is to predict as much as possible about
the structure of a number of proteins of biological interest, taking
advantage of the most recent methodologies for fold recognition and ab
initio prediction.

        The participants will be divided into working groups assisted by
an instructor. Each group will be equipped with state of the art
software and hardware (kindly provided by Silicon Graphics) and assigned
the sequences of proteins whose structure has to be predicted.

        The predictions will be made public as a technical document and
also available via World Wide Web. Suggestions for target proteins can
also be submitted by non-participants via WWW (see accompanying email)

Organizers:
Tim Hubbard (CPE, MRC), Anna Tramontano (IRBM)

Instructors:
G. Barton (Oxford), T. Hubbard (Cambridge), D. Jones (London),
M. Sippl (Salzburg), A.