This newsgroup is lousy. It should disband

zgudmunt at my-deja.com zgudmunt at my-deja.com
Thu Jul 15 04:31:39 EST 1999


   I agree with the two repliers to the original message. Spam IS
everywhere, but I don´t find it troubles me since I use Deja.com and
just open the messages with a relevant header (NOT "Double your money!"
or "Future profit !!",,,etc.).
   I do, however agree with the original message that the answers
sometimes come slow on this list, particularily when you´re a novice
(which I pretty much am too)but as has been said, it´s a small list, a
couple of hundred perhaps.



                       Gudmundur





In article <199907141527.IAA15893 at fafner.Stanford.EDU>,
  cherry at GENOME.STANFORD.EDU (Mike Cherry) wrote:
> >
> > In article <378B6888.531A3D2 at u.arizona.edu>,
> > Paul Muhlrad  <pmuhlrad at u.arizona.edu> wrote:
> > >I don't know why I even follow this NG anymore.  It's 99% spam.
> > >Meanwhile, I still haven't gotten an answer to my ACeDB question I
> > >posted a few weeks ago.  I suggest disbanding bionet.software.acedb
and
> > >finding a less public forum for discussing acedb.
> >
> > Most low-volume newsgroups are 99% spam.  It's nothing special to
this
> > group.
>
> Good Point.  SPAM is part of newsgroups and email.  Lots of people
complain
> about it but no one has made a difference.
>
> > There are a couple of solutions to this problem, neither of which
> > involve disbanding the newsgroup, which I think would be a bad
thing.
> >
> > 1)  Use a newsreader that allows you to kill articles that are
obvious
> > spam.  For instance, mine automatically discards any message
cross-posted to
> > more than five newsgroups, or with certain phrases in the title,
> > particularly XXX and $$$.  I'm also looking into killing articles
> > based on obvious garbage e-mail addresses.  Many newsreaders will do
> > this for you.  See www.newsreaders.com for detailed lists of
> > newsreaders available for various computer platforms.
>
> This is common.  I personnally use procmail on UNIX to filter incoming
> email that I don't like into /dev/null.  I also have no probably using
> the 'd' (delete) key in my mail program.
>
> > 2)  We could moderate the newsgroup, so that postings have to be
> > approved by a moderator.  This involves someone volunteering, and a
> > vote being taken.  I'm not sure how one goes about this, I'm not
that
> > much of a Usenet expert.
>
> Many, maybe most, BioSci newsgroups are now moderated.  The moderation
> seems to work well.  The yeast and Arabidopsis lists are both
moderated.
> The folks providing BioSci have a procedure for changing a group to
> moderation.  It requires a volunteer and then a vote.
>
> > The fact that no-one answered your post is unfortunate, but maybe
> > no-one knew the answer.  I expect the regular readership of this
group
> > is very low (possibly a couple of hundred people world-wide) so this
> > is quite likely.  If this were a mailing list rather than a
newsgroup,
> > I don't see why that would change.
>
> I've asked many questions to newsgroups and mailing lists over the
> past >10 years.  The number of times I got an answer or even a reply
> would be about 50%.  Sometimes its a hard question, sometimes its too
> specific, sometimes its too simple so no one takes the time to answer.
> All this is part of these lists.  If you get no answer ask the list
> again or ask someone specific.  Maybe its me but I don't always get
> answers when I ask people in person so I don't except any magic from
> these electronic lists.
>
> > Tim.
> >
>
> Mike
>


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