From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed Feb 01 22:00:00 1995
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From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de>
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Yoshihisa Inoue (inoue@greencross.co.jp) wrote on 19 Jan 95:

[lots deleted ... have still to keep up with the literature :-( ]

> And M.Mahmoudian reported "the 
> complex of human Gs protein with the beta3 adrenergic receptor" 
> (J.Mol.Graphics,12,22-28 & 34 (1994). 

Has anybody compared the postulated structure of Gs with the published
structures of Gi and Gt? I am always very unsure when I read structure
predictions because I have no idea at all how far I can trust them.
Maybe the comparison would give an idea of how reliable such a prediction
might be.

As for the other papers quoted by Dr. Inoue -- I still have to read most
of them :-(

I would like to see this thread keeping alive since I think interaction
of GPCRs with other proteins is one of the most interesting areas in
the field :-) (Disclaimer: I'm not working in this area.)

--Cornelius.

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 02 22:00:00 1995
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Dear netters,

I am looking for the atomic coordinates of the crystal structures of Gi as 
reported on by Coleman and others. In the PDB these structures are still 'on 
hold'. Is it possible to retrieve them from somewhere else?
Thanks for your help

Ad IJzerman

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 02 22:00:00 1995
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From: inoue@greencross.co.jp (Yoshihisa Inoue)
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Dear Netters,

I think you have already read the following interesting paper.

AU S.Perlman, H.T.Schambye, R.A.Rivero, W.J.Greenlee, S.A.Hjorth, and
   T.W.Schwartz
TI Non-peptide angiotensin agonist. Functional and molecular interaction
   with the AT1 receptor.
SO J.Biol.Chem.,270(04).1493-1496.

The points are:
(1) Merck group found non-peptide antagonists L-162313.
(2) In the COS-7 cells, the maximal response of IP accumuration was 50%,
	and in the CHO cells, 3% of the maximal A-II response.
(3) L-162313 is a partial agonist in CHO or COS-7 cells, but in vivo it
	increased blood pressure to the same degree of A-II, but the onset is
	slow and duration is long. The increase of the blodd pressure is not
	caused only by the docking of A-II with the receptor, but by the
	cascade after the dock.
(4) The binding sites of A-II, L-162313, and antagonist L-158809 are
	slightly different. And you have to remember that the competitive
	and insurmountable antagonists were affected differently by the 
	mutation (by Schambye et al, Br.J.Pharmacol).

What mechanism? I have an idea but difficult for me to explain in English.
By the way, the following 3 articles are also interesting.

AU H.Sasamura, V.J.Dzau, and R.E.Pratt
TI Desensitization of Angiotensin Receptor Function
SO Kidney International, 46, 1499-1501 (1994).

AU L.Hunyady, Y.Tian, K.Sandberg, T.Balla, and K.J.Catt
TI Divergeent Conformational Requirements for Angiotensin II Receptor
	Internalization and Signaling
SO Kidney International, 46, 1496-1498 (1994).

AU S.Chaki, D.-F.Guo, Y.Yamano, K.Ohyama, M.Tani, M.Mizukoshi, H.Shirai,
	and T.Inagami
TI Role of Carboxylic Tail of the rat Angiotensin II Type 1a Receptor in
	Agonist-induced Internalization of the Receptor
SO Kidney International, 46, 1492-1495 (1994).

	The first one describes that the PKC is involved in the desensitization,
and because the rate of dissapearance of the receptor from the cell surface
is considerably slower than the rate of agonist-induced desensitizaion and
so on, the process of the sequestration/internalization is different.
	The second one describes that because the NPxY sequence present in the
cytoplasmic tail of EGF or insulin receptors functions as internalization
signal, NPxxY in TM7 might be the strong candidate.
	The third one describes that the C-tail is important for the internali-
zation.

     ____/   ___/  ___/ Yoshihisa INOUE (^_^)   the Green Cross Corp.
    /       /     /     2-25-1 Shodai-Ohtani,Hirakata,Osaka 573 JAPAN
   / _ /   /     /         tel: +81-720-56-9328
  /   /   /     /          fax: +81-720-68-9597
_____/ _____/_____/     E-mail: inoue@greencross.co.jp


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Fri Feb 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: schuessl@uni-duesseldorf.de (Peter Schuessler)
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hello,

        can everyone give me more information about the interaction of a Gs 
alpha protein and the membrane. Is it right that this interaction is based 
on hydrophobic portions of the G protein? And is it right that all G alpha 
proteins assign to the membrane associated protein fraction instead of the 
membrane-integrated fraction or the cytosolic fraction?

        I'am interested in this points because I will use a Gs alpha protein 
antibody to detect the membrane associated proteins and discriminate them 
from the outher fractions after a separation procedure of whole proteins 
into these different soluble phases.

        Thank you very much

        With Best Regards,      Peter Schuessler

Peter Schuessler
Institut fuer Genetik
Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf

D-40225 Duesseldorf
Germany

Tel: ++49-(0)211-311-2408
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Fri Feb 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: Rick Neubig <RNeubig@umich.edu>
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Subject: Re: g-proteins
Date: 4 Feb 1995 14:20:16 GMT
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schuessl@uni-duesseldorf.de (Peter Schuessler) wrote:

>         can everyone give me more information about the interaction of a Gs 
> alpha protein and the membrane. Is it right that this interaction is based 
> on hydrophobic portions of the G protein? And is it right that all G alpha 
> proteins assign to the membrane associated protein fraction instead of the 
> membrane-integrated fraction or the cytosolic fraction?

The relative distribution of G proteins between plasma membrane,
intracellular membranes, and cytosol is still rather confusing and
is probably different for different G proteins. I recently reviewed
some of the literature on this topic in:

FASEB J 8:939-946 (1994) Membrane organization in G protein mechanisms. 

> 
>         I'am interested in this points because I will use a Gs alpha protein 
> antibody to detect the membrane associated proteins and discriminate them 
> from the outher fractions after a separation procedure of whole proteins 
> into these different soluble phases.

There have since been some nice papers on the role of palmitoylation
of Galpha-s specifically in the interaction of that protein with membranes.
If you look at  

Wedegaertner PB  Bourne HR Activation and depalmitoylation of Gs 
alpha. Cell 77:1063-70, (1994)

I think you will find that using Gs as a marker for
plasma membrane will not be valid as agonist activation of Gs results
in loss of palmitoylation and release from the plasma membrane into
a cytosolic fraction. 

We have also looked at the distribution of labelled alpha and beta-gamma
subunits introduced by membrane fusion into NG-108-15 cells and found
that while beta-gamma stayed in the plasma membrane the alpha subunit 
(alpha-o in this case) was also present intracellularly but appeared
to be in either a membrane bound or aggregated state as it pelleted
on centrifugation. 

Kwon et al Cell. Signal. 6:663-679 (1994). Lateral mobility of 
tetramethylrhodamine-labelled G protein a and bg subunits in 
NG 108-15 cells. 

Cheers,
Rick Neubig
http://www.umich.edu/~rneubig


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Fri Feb 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de>
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Peter Schuessler (schuessl@mail.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de) wrote:

>can everyone give me more information about the interaction of a Gs 
>alpha protein and the membrane. Is it right that this interaction is based 
>on hydrophobic portions of the G protein? And is it right that all G alpha 
>proteins assign to the membrane associated protein fraction instead of the 
>membrane-integrated fraction or the cytosolic fraction?

I think it is not entirely clear how the interaction between G alpha
subunits and membranes takes place. It has been shown that, in the case
of Gs, palmitoylation of the alpha subunit is necessary for its membrane
targeting (Wedegaertner et al., JBC 268, 25001-25008, 1993). Upon stimulation
of Gs-coupled receptors the palmitate can get lost, resulting in trans-
location of the Gs alpha subunit into the cytosol (Wedegaertner & Bourne,
Cell 77, 1063-1070, 1994). On the other hand, the contrary has been
reported, namely that stimulation of Gs with cholera toxin (Degtyarev
et al., JBC 268, 23769-23772, 1993) or b2-AR agonists (Mumby et al.,
PNAS 91, 2800-2804, 1994) _increases_ palmitoylation of the alpha
subunit.

A review about lipid modifications of trimeric G proteins can be found
in JBC 270 (2), 503-506, 1995 (by Wedegaertner, Wilson and Bourne).

Hope this is of some help,
--Cornelius.

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Fri Feb 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: Rick Neubig <RNeubig@umich.edu>
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Subject: Re: atomic coordinates of Gi
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IJZERMAN@RULGCA.LEIDENUNIV.NL wrote:
 
> I am looking for the atomic coordinates of the crystal structures of Gi as 
> reported on by Coleman and others. In the PDB these structures are still 'on 
> hold'. Is it possible to retrieve them from somewhere else?
> Thanks for your help

In general until things are officially released you need to contact
the authors to obtain the coordinates. I was able to get the 
transducin alpha coordinates from the Sigler group before they were
released to the public just by asking. You may need to be persistent.

I'd suggest that you contact Sprang or Gilman to ask if they will
give them to you. "Legally" they aren't required to until the 1 year
hold on the coordinates is over.

Rick Neubig
http://www.umich.edu/~rneubig

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
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Does anyone know of a G-protein linked receptor which doesnt possess 7 membrane spanning domains.
Thanks 
	Adam Collier
:quit
 


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
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> 
> Dear Dr.Dave Kristofferson,
> 
> I am interested in G-protein Coupled Receptor, so I join 7tms_r Mailing
> list, and also read bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r. But it is strange.
> Suppose that I post some comments to 7tms_r@net.bio.net, and it is
> distributed to the "Mailing List" people, but not appeared in the
> "Bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r" Newsgroup.

We tested the system previously and it worked fine.  I have just
posted another two test messages.  Unless you tell me precisely what
messages were involved, it is very time-consuming to track this down.
However, before you do this read the rest of this message.  There are
a number of items like, e.g., crossposting to multiple
newsgroups, which can sometimes give rise to unexpected behavior
between the mailing lists and newsgroups.  If the messages in question
were *only* sent to the 7tms_r mail address or *only* sent to
bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r and did not show up in both media, then
I would be concerned.  There can also be substantial differences in
delivery time between news and mail to the same site (more below).

> In January, many "Mailing List" people asked the reader of the
> "Newsgroup" to stop any discussion about "NutraSweet", but only
> "Mailing List" people can read it, "Newsnet" people cannot.

I saw discussions about Nutrasweet in both our newsreader and mail
archives here.  I have not attempted to match them all up one-to-one
and instead am simply posting two test messages via news and mail to
test the group.

> Recently I have more than 10 mails from "Mailing List" people, but
> they are totally not appeared in the "NewsNet". What happens?
> Dr.Cornelius Krasel and so many people recognized it.

It could be that your news feed is convoluted and that it might take
several days for the news articles to get to you via other sites while
the mail distribution goes from here to you directly.  It is very
important to look at distribution headers carefully and determine a
typical delivery time from our site to yours before assuming that the
system is broken.  news distribution and mail distribution proceed by
entirely different routes.


> Do you kindly check it and correct the system?

I just posted a test via mail and also via news.  If I find out that
anything is really broken, I will fix it, but, as noted above, there
are other possible sources which might account for your observations.
I am ccing the newsgroup on this in case others have the same
question.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
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Test of the bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r USENET newsgroup and the
news-to-mail gateway.


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test of 7tms_r@net.bio.net distribution, please ignore.


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: 7TMS_R "Newsnet" and "Mailing List"
Date: 6 Feb 1995 17:12:26 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology
Lines: 16
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In article <CMM-RU.1.4.792119302.biohelp@net.bio.net>,
BIOSCI Administrator <biosci-help@net.bio.net> wrote:

>We tested the system previously and it worked fine.  I have just
>posted another two test messages.


Both of the two tests just posted showed up in both the news and mail
system here.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!glaxo.com!brown~pj
From: brown~pj@glaxo.com ("Peter J. Brown")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 05 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU!mlevine
From: mlevine@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU (MICHAEL A LEVINE)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: membrane spanning domains
Date: 6 Feb 1995 13:56:13 -0800
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the receptor for calcitonin gene related protein (CGRP) activates 
adenylyl cyclase, most likely via Gs, but the receptor is not 7-tms; 
also, IGF-2 receptor can activate g proteins.

On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, AJ. Collier wrote:

> 
> Does anyone know of a G-protein linked receptor which doesnt possess 7 membrane spanning domains.
> Thanks 
> 	Adam Collier
> :quit
>  
> 
> 
> 

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 06 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!CS.Arizona.EDU!biosci!NET.BIO.NET!biosci-help
From: biosci-help@NET.BIO.NET (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: 7TMS_R "Newsnet" and "Mailing List"
Date: 6 Feb 1995 17:08:37 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
Lines: 57
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> 
> Dear Dr.Dave Kristofferson,
> 
> I am interested in G-protein Coupled Receptor, so I join 7tms_r Mailing
> list, and also read bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r. But it is strange.
> Suppose that I post some comments to 7tms_r@net.bio.net, and it is
> distributed to the "Mailing List" people, but not appeared in the
> "Bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r" Newsgroup.

We tested the system previously and it worked fine.  I have just
posted another two test messages.  Unless you tell me precisely what
messages were involved, it is very time-consuming to track this down.
However, before you do this read the rest of this message.  There are
a number of items like, e.g., crossposting to multiple
newsgroups, which can sometimes give rise to unexpected behavior
between the mailing lists and newsgroups.  If the messages in question
were *only* sent to the 7tms_r mail address or *only* sent to
bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r and did not show up in both media, then
I would be concerned.  There can also be substantial differences in
delivery time between news and mail to the same site (more below).

> In January, many "Mailing List" people asked the reader of the
> "Newsgroup" to stop any discussion about "NutraSweet", but only
> "Mailing List" people can read it, "Newsnet" people cannot.

I saw discussions about Nutrasweet in both our newsreader and mail
archives here.  I have not attempted to match them all up one-to-one
and instead am simply posting two test messages via news and mail to
test the group.

> Recently I have more than 10 mails from "Mailing List" people, but
> they are totally not appeared in the "NewsNet". What happens?
> Dr.Cornelius Krasel and so many people recognized it.

It could be that your news feed is convoluted and that it might take
several days for the news articles to get to you via other sites while
the mail distribution goes from here to you directly.  It is very
important to look at distribution headers carefully and determine a
typical delivery time from our site to yours before assuming that the
system is broken.  news distribution and mail distribution proceed by
entirely different routes.


> Do you kindly check it and correct the system?

I just posted a test via mail and also via news.  If I find out that
anything is really broken, I will fix it, but, as noted above, there
are other possible sources which might account for your observations.
I am ccing the newsgroup on this in case others have the same
question.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 06 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!CS.Arizona.EDU!biosci!bionet.ig.com!not-for-mail
From: kristoff@bionet.ig.com (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: test of bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:58:09 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology
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Test of the bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r USENET newsgroup and the
news-to-mail gateway.


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 06 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!CS.Arizona.EDU!biosci!BIONET.IG.COM!kristoff
From: kristoff@BIONET.IG.COM (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: test of 7tms_r@net.bio.net
Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:56:32 -0800
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test of 7tms_r@net.bio.net distribution, please ignore.


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 06 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!CS.Arizona.EDU!biosci!biosci!not-for-mail
From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: 7TMS_R "Newsnet" and "Mailing List"
Date: 6 Feb 1995 17:12:26 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology
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NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net

In article <CMM-RU.1.4.792119302.biohelp@net.bio.net>,
BIOSCI Administrator <biosci-help@net.bio.net> wrote:

>We tested the system previously and it worked fine.  I have just
>posted another two test messages.


Both of the two tests just posted showed up in both the news and mail
system here.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 06 22:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Path: biosci!galaxy.ucr.edu!ratatosk.yggdrasil.com!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.bluesky.net!udel!news.sprintlink.net!pipex!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!warwick!bsmail!zeus!dhajc
From: dhajc@zeus.bris.ac.uk (AJ. Collier)
Subject: membrane spanning domains
Message-ID: <D3L4t2.9wE@info.bris.ac.uk>
Sender: usenet@info.bris.ac.uk (Usenet news owner)
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Organization: University of Bristol, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 15:39:02 GMT
Lines: 7


Does anyone know of a G-protein linked receptor which doesnt possess 7 membrane spanning domains.
Thanks 
	Adam Collier
:quit
 


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 06 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!AMYLIN.COM!keith_albrandt
From: keith_albrandt@AMYLIN.COM ("Keith Albrandt")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: FWD>RE>membrane spanning do
Date: 7 Feb 1995 10:14:28 -0800
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Mail*Link(r) SMTP               FWD>RE>membrane spanning dom

What's the evidence that the receptor for CGRP is not a 7tm?  Has it been
cloned?
Thanks.

Keith Albrandt


------------------------------
Date: 2/5/95 10:21 PM
From: MICHAEL A LEVINE

the receptor for calcitonin gene related protein (CGRP) activates 
adenylyl cyclase, most likely via Gs, but the receptor is not 7-tms; 
also, IGF-2 receptor can activate g proteins.

On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, AJ. Collier wrote:

> 
> Does anyone know of a G-protein linked receptor which doesnt possess 7
membrane spanning domains.
> Thanks 
> 	Adam Collier
> :quit
>  
> 
> 
> 


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue Feb 07 22:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!graul
From: graul@netcom.com (Rick Graul)
Subject: Re: membrane spanning domains
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dhajc@zeus.bris.ac.uk (AJ. Collier) writes:

>Does anyone know of a G-protein linked receptor which doesnt possess 7 membrane spanning domains.

The GPCR homolog vc03_sfvka, from the shope fibroma virus, appears to be 
missing all of transmembrane domain 1 and the beginning of 2.

Rick
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue Feb 07 22:00:00 1995
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Path: biosci!adam.cc.sunysb.edu!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!news-server.ncren.net!concert!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!murdoch!usenet
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Subject: Re: FWD>RE>membrane spanning do
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keith_albrandt@AMYLIN.COM ("Keith Albrandt") wrote:
>
> Mail*Link(r) SMTP               FWD>RE>membrane spanning dom
> 
> What's the evidence that the receptor for CGRP is not a 7tm?  Has it been
> cloned?
> Thanks.
> 
> Keith Albrandt
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> Date: 2/5/95 10:21 PM
> From: MICHAEL A LEVINE
> 
> the receptor for calcitonin gene related protein (CGRP) activates 
> adenylyl cyclase, most likely via Gs, but the receptor is not 7-tms; 
> also, IGF-2 receptor can activate g proteins.
> 
	I too am surprised at the suggestion that the CGRP receptor is
not a 7-tmr.  1).CGRP has strong sequence similarity to calcitonin 
which does have a 7tmr.  2). CGRP is coupled to cAMP and GTP shifts 
the high affinity site to a lower affinity state.  3). CGRP cross-
linking suggests a receptor with size and glycosylation typical of a 
7tmr.
	Am I miss-reading the literature, is there a new surprising
clone, or is this some sort of missunderstanding?

					From; Bruce Gaylinn
					      bg2g@virginia.edu

 

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue Feb 07 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!NET.BIO.NET!biosci-help
From: biosci-help@NET.BIO.NET (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: 7TMS_R "Newsnet" and "Mailing List"
Date: 8 Feb 1995 10:56:10 -0800
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology
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> Dr. Kristofferson,
> 
> I think that there is some propagation problem between net.bio.net and
> for example this site, thereby I cannot read 7tms via news. I am
> not familiar enough with news to explain or resolve this problem.
> I asked the local news admin about it and he said during the creation
> of the newsgroup there was a problem with the email address of the
> "responsible person". Maybe this has caused troubles further upstream
> (i.e. between net.bio.net and news.biochem.mpg.de).
> 
> Maybe it would be helpful if people mailed replies to your test message
> (only if read by news, of course) to track the culprit down. If it is of
> help, I can email you a header of an established group, such as
> bionet.announce.
> 
> This problem occurs here not only with bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms, but
> with any lately created bionet group.
> 
> Hope that clears things up a bit,
> --Cornelius Krasel

This problem is something that we have had to contend with
increasingly as USENET gets flooded with trash in the alt domain and
sites turn off automatic newsgroup creation.  This means that at each
site the newsgroup administrator has to act *manually* on newsgroup
creation messages.  Valuable ones can get lost in the general flow of
garbage on the net.  You should talk to your administrator about ways
of ensuring that all bionet newgroup messages get acted upon at your
site, but your administrator can also use our "checkgroups" message to
get caught up.  I enclose the relevant portion of our BIOSCI FAQ
below.  Please be aware that your news administrator is probably
harried by other tasks and will not do these things unless you call
them to his/her attention.

I am ccing the 7tms_r group on this too.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net


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  I HEAR THAT A NEW BIONET NEWSGROUP WAS CREATED BUT WHY ISN'T IT AT MY SITE
  YET?

This could happen for a variety of reasons. When we create a new
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news administrators at Usenet sites around the world. Many sites are
configured so that such newgroup messages are acted upon automatically
and the group is established without human intervention. However, due
to the growing volume of Usenet newsgroups, many sites have turned off
automatic newgroup creation and require human intervention to create a
new Usenet group in response to a newgroup message. If you know from
reading BIONEWS/bionet.announce or from contacting the BIOSCI staff at
biosci-help@net.bio.net that a new bionet newsgroup should be in
existance, please contact your local news administrator and ask them
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be simply overlooked by the news administrator and sometimes they may
not be received if a Usenet site upstream on the net from you had a
problem and did not pass on the message. Please let your news
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first of each month to bionet.announce. Your news administrator can
use the contents of that message to update your local list of bionet
Usenet newsgroups.

Please note that all new BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups are announced on
BIONEWS/bionet.announce as soon as they are ready for use. If you see
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If you experience the problem above, please contact your local news
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which is sent out to all Usenet news administrators. It is possible
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed Feb 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: biobone@aol.com (Bio Bone)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: Receptor density and transfection
Date: 9 Feb 1995 18:44:57 -0500
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We have a number of CHO clones that have been transfected with the
thrombin receptor.  We have determined that these clones generally are
expressing between 100,000 and 150,000 receptors/cell.  Over time, we have
noticed that the expression level has generally gone down only slightly
although there is one clone that is will lose expression after many
passages.

Bradley Bone
COR Therapeutics, Inc.

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed Feb 08 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!NET.BIO.NET!biosci-help
From: biosci-help@NET.BIO.NET (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: 7TMS_R "Newsnet" and "Mailing List"
Date: 9 Feb 1995 10:22:34 -0800
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> 
> It might be something else as well. I get the newsgroup but also continue
> to read as email. It seems to me that only some of the stuff that I see
> in email makes it to the newsgroup. I can't be sure of this since I
> haven't been paying particularly close attention but that is my impression.
> 
> Max
> 

I am absolutely confident that messages posted to the two BIOSCI sites
get distributed both by mail and news.  A number of issues can develop
downstream at other news sites and can cause the kind of discrepancy
mentioned above.  I'll comment on the most likely cause:

If your site rapidly expires the 7tms_r newsgroup (perhaps they set
your news software to delete all messages older than one day - this is
a locally settable parameter), you may miss messages in the news
system if you do not read it religiously.  News users should ask there
local systems administrators to set the expiration date on the bionet
newsgroups to a period which corresponds with the frequency of their
access.  The bionet groups are not high volume so this should not
create disk space problems on your machine.

I'm sure after reading these various posts many of you are starting to
think that you should only participate by e-mail.  Personally, I think
that e-mail is the worst possible option and a horrendous waste of
your time **IF** you have a properly configured and working
newsreader.  If you do not, then you are stuck with having to get all
of the messages to the newsgroup dumped in your mail file.

I don't know about the rest of you, but if I had to read a part of
each article in a journal before I could decide whether or not it was
of interest, I would quickly conclude that the journals were full of
junk that wasted my time.  Everyone reads journals by first skimmimg
the table of contents and selecting the small number of articles of
interest in each issue.  A newsreader sorts the messages by discussion
topic, thus automatically creating a table of contents for you, and
lets you quickly skim what is being discussed.  You don't have to
delete anything out of your mail file that is not of interest.  You
can quickly skip SUBSCRIBE messages and other off-the-topic or
inappropriate postings without having to delete them.  It's usually
e-mail users that get bent out of shape about chain letters, etc. on
the net.  News users rarely even look at them.

Hopefully the above will convince you that, although it may take some
effort to talk to your news administrator now and get them to
configure the newsgroups properly for you, it will over the long run
save you a tremendous ammount of time and effort.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed Feb 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: TMWERGE%IRMISS.BITNET@VM.CNUCE.CNR.IT (Thomas)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Receptor density and transfection
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Good morning out-there|

I have only recently joint this list and realize that I may be asking a FAQ.
Nevertheless, how do one equalize the receptor density per cell in a transient
system like COS cells of two differently expressed receptors (generally a high
wildtype and a low mutant)? I immagine that one may vary the DNA conc of the be
st expressed receptor (adding up empthy vector DNA so that the conc of DNA rema
ins the unaltered). Would such an approach, given it yeilds equal receptor conc
 per well, insure that also the receptor density per cell is comparable.
And talking about receptor density, has anybody examined the distribution of re
ceptor densities in transfected COS cells; i.e. is it accually true that

COS cells, independently of number of introduced plasmids, amplify the plasmid
DNA as to reach a common identical (or very similar) copy number per cell, whic
h would imply an "all or nothing" type of expression?

A second issue: how stable are stable CHO clones. Has anybody experience which
how (or if) receptor expression varies in such clones, either with passage of t
he clone (which I guess is expected) or with its actual state of growth?

Have a nice day|

Cheers   Thomas


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: Carlson_Kenneth_E.PRILVMS3@MSMAIL.BMS.COM (Carlson Kenneth E)
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sat Feb 11 22:00:00 1995
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From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Newsgroups: bionet.xtallography,bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: Integral Membrane Proteins?
Date: 11 Feb 1995 12:42:37 GMT
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[This has been crossposted to bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r]

T. J. Murphy (medtjm@bimcore.emory.edu) wrote:
> My interests include "7TM" receptors coupled to GTP-binding proteins.
> Since "7TM" receptors are integral membrane proteins, they have proven
> refractory to known approaches for crystallization and structural solution
> (as I understand it).

1) It is possible to crystallize integral membrane proteins (see for
   example the photosynthetic reaction center or the porins). It is,
   however, much more difficult than crystallizing soluble proteins.

2) It is very difficult (yet) to express G-protein coupled receptors in
   quantities needed for expression. E. coli are rather reluctant to
   produce these proteins (you get about five to ten molecules per cell).
   Baculovirus expression is better, but still not comparable to
   soluble proteins in baculovirus. In mammalian cells, expression can
   be forced to rather high levels but here arise the problems of
   culturing large amounts of cells.

3) There is a projection structure of bovine rhodopsin available by
   G. Schertler. Bovine rhodopsin can be purified rather easily in
   large amounts from eyes (thereby circumventing the problems pointed
   out in #2 above).

> if one produces segments of a 7TM receptor protein, each containing a single 
> predicted membrane spanning region, what is the likelihood that these
> segments could be crystallized, and solved individually?

I am not sure if this approach has been tried with membrane segments of
G-protein coupled receptors, but the PDB contains some NMR structures
of membrane-spanning peptides derived from bacteriorhodopsin whose
structure has been solved by NMR.

It is very likely that indeed the transmembrane structures of G-protein
coupled receptors are more or less amphipathic helices, with the
more hydrophilic part pointing towards the center of the receptor.
Based on this assumption and on mutational data, a model has been
constructed by Joyce Baldwin (Baldwin, Curr. Op. Struct. Biol. 6,
180-190, 1994 and references therein) which attempts to fit all the
experimental data.

Now let the modellers stand up :-)

--Cornelius.

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sat Feb 11 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!MSMAIL.BMS.COM!Seiler_Steven_M.PRILVMS3
From: Seiler_Steven_M.PRILVMS3@MSMAIL.BMS.COM (Seiler Steven M)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Partial agonists
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subscribe (again).

For those who are interested my new address is:
Seiler_Steven_M.PRILVMS3@msmail.bms.com

While I've got your attention, I was wondering what's the best current
description of the molecular basis for partial agonists? (Literature as well
as personal opinions welcome.)  Also, what does every one think of using
GTPase activity to measure the degree of agonist activity?
/Steve Seiler

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 12 22:00:00 1995
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From: germana@CHET.MEDC.UMN.EDU
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I am looking for the program KITSCH by Felsenstein to calculate dendograms.
May thanks to pointers.

Germana Paterlini
Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry
Universit of Minnesota
Germana@quinn.medc.umn.edu
.\]




From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 12 22:00:00 1995
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From: TMWERGE%IRMISS.BITNET@VM.CNUCE.CNR.IT ("Thomas M. Werge")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Rec. density in COS
Date: 13 Feb 1995 07:14:19 -0800
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Good afternoon|

Last week I asked a few questions regarding transfections in COS and CHO cells
and the resulting receptor expression and density. Thanks for the answers| (som
e of which I received both directly and through the list: Generally the mailing
list took 20 to 40 hr more than direct mailing; is that normal?).

I would like to follow up on the COS transfection. From what I understood and n
ow understand even better from the answers, the expression of receptors in COS
has not been address experimentally; i.e. it is not known in which way expresse
d receptors are distributed on COS cells, normal distributed or in an 'all or
non' fasion. Less seems to be known about which parameters differ, 'receptor  n
umber per cell' or 'number of expressing cells' (or both), when two receptors a
re compared, such as a good expressing wildtype and a bad expressing mutant.
When DNA conc. in transfections are adjusted as to give comparable receptor exp
ression per well (or just comparable binding per well) it is not known whether
this 'equal' expression is obtained by matching both receptor density and numbe
r of positive cells (as one would like to), or by changing one of the parameter
s only.
Given that G-protein coupling in COS is also a bit difficult to control (e.g. p
eptide receptors show high affinity binding whereas cationic amines exhibit low
 affinity) I cannot help asking how one can trust comparative studies of diffen
tially expressed receptors (wt vs mut's), in particular when these experiments
address the issue of signal transduction?
Just one example: I have heard the following type of reasoning: The IC50's (or
Kd's) were ..... and the EC50's ...... The Bmax was between 25% and 85% of the
wildtype Bmax. Correcting for this diffent expression we see that this or that
mutation affects ....
However, in my mind, if the expression profiles differ then also the coupling d
iffers, and if that is true is becomes hard to compare such receptors. Then onl
y stable clones allow this comparison to be done.

Needless to say that I do not want to discredit anybodies work, least of all my
 own) but the more I try to get into this branch of pharmacology the more diffi
culties appears.

All the best

Thomas


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 12 22:00:00 1995
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Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 12 22:00:00 1995
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 13 22:00:00 1995
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From: PARKER_E@bms.com
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Subject: Postdoctoral Position
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I am looking for a postdoctoral fellow to work in my laboratory here at 
Bristol-Myers Squibb Company.  The postdoctoral research will focus on one or 
more of the following areas:

1.  Identification, characterization and cloning of peptides and peptide 
receptors involved in the central regulation of feeding behavior and energy 
metabolism.

2.  Molecular characterization of nutrient sensing mechanisms in the brain.

3.  Identification of proteins that are differentially expressed in the brains 
of lean vs. obese animals.

Ideally, I would like to find someone with experience in all common molecular 
biology techniques.  Experience in cDNA library construction 
and screening, expression cloning, site-directed mutagenesis, in situ 
hybridization, immunocytochemistry, radioligand binding and/or signal 
transduction assays would be particularly helpful.  If you know of any 
interested persons, please have them forward their CVs to

Eric M. Parker
Dept. of CNS Biology, Dept. 404
Bristol-Myers Squibb Co.
5 Research Parkway
Wallingford, CT  06492
Phone:  (203)284-6720
Fax:  (203)284-7569

Thanks alot for your help!

Eric

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 13 22:00:00 1995
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From: Rick Neubig <RNeubig@umich.edu>
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Subject: Re: Rec. density in COS
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TMWERGE%IRMISS.BITNET@VM.CNUCE.CNR.IT ("Thomas M. Werge") wrote:

> However, in my mind, if the expression profiles differ then also the coupling d
> iffers, and if that is true is becomes hard to compare such receptors. Then onl
> y stable clones allow this comparison to be done.
> 
> Needless to say that I do not want to discredit anybodies work, least of all my
>  own) but the more I try to get into this branch of pharmacology the more diffi
> culties appears.

Thomas,
You have pointed out many of the difficulties with transient
transfections. They are particularly difficult for any quantitative
comparison of responses which is why many people take the extra
effort to create stable lines. It is probably more appropriate to
draw qualitative conclusions from transients - this works and this
doesn't. Also if there is a huge difference between two receptors
then it is likely to be telling you something. The better you do
with transfection efficiency the less problem you are likely to
have from transients. If the transfection efficiency varies from
5-25% it is much more of a problem than if it varies from 70-90%.

Rick Neubig
http://www.umich.edu/~rneubig

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 13 22:00:00 1995
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TMWERGE%IRMISS.BITNET@VM.CNUCE.CNR.IT ("Thomas M. Werge") wrote:

> However, in my mind, if the expression profiles differ then also the coupling d
> iffers, and if that is true is becomes hard to compare such receptors. Then onl
> y stable clones allow this comparison to be done.
> 
> Needless to say that I do not want to discredit anybodies work, least of all my
>  own) but the more I try to get into this branch of pharmacology the more diffi
> culties appears.

Thomas,
You have pointed out many of the difficulties with transient
transfections. They are particularly difficult for any quantitative
comparison of responses which is why many people take the extra
effort to create stable lines. It is probably more appropriate to
draw qualitative conclusions from transients - this works and this
doesn't. Also if there is a huge difference between two receptors
then it is likely to be telling you something. The better you do
with transfection efficiency the less problem you are likely to
have from transients. If the transfection efficiency varies from
5-25% it is much more of a problem than if it varies from 70-90%.

Rick Neubig
http://www.umich.edu/~rneubig

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed Feb 15 22:00:00 1995
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From: TMWERGE%IRMISS.BITNET@VM.CNUCE.CNR.IT ("Thomas M. Werge")
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I send the list a mail on Mon. Feb. 13 which has not yet made it back here. Sin
ce I did get a reply to the mail from Neubig (thanks a lot|) my message most be
 out there somewhere. Other 7tm'ers in Italy didn't received my mail either.
Is some link down or is the served overworked?

All the best

Thomas


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 16 22:00:00 1995
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From: Rick Neubig <RNeubig@umich.edu>
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Subject: Re: G-proteins
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hammer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Paul Eugene Hammerstrom) wrote:
>
> I'm working on a paper and I need to find 10 active/interactive sites
> of G-protein subunits, the properties of each site, and the result of
> that interaction.  Anyone's help would be much appreciated.

Paul,
There have been 4 papers in the last year on xtal structure of G protein
alpha subunits that will have much useful information:

1. Noel, J. P., H. E. Hamm, and P. B. Sigler. 1993. The 2.2 Å crystal 
structure of transducin-a complexed with GTP-gamma-S. 
Nature 366:654-663.

2. Lambright, D. G., J. P. Noel, H. E. Hamm, and P. B. Sigler. 1994. 
Structural determinants for activation of the a-subunit of a  
heterotrimeric G protein. Nature 369:621-628.

3. Another in Nature from this same group more recently on GDP-AlF bound
transducin.

4. Sprang/Gilman lab collaboratin also in Nature on several mutant G
alpha-i's.

You might also want to look at a review by Conklin and Bourne in 
Cell last year:

1. Conklin, B. R. and H. R. Bourne. 1993. Structural elements of 
Ga subunits that interact with Gbt, receptors, and effectors. 
Cell 73:631-641.

We also had a paper in JBC recently on a receptor-peptide interaction site.
One of the interesting results was that there was a significant
interaction with beta subunit which we are trying hard to map.

1. Taylor, J. M., G. Jacob-Mosier, R. G. Lawton, 
A. E. Remmers, and R. R. Neubig. 1994. 
Binding of an a2-adrenergic receptor peptide to 
Gb and the N-terminus of Ga. J Biol. Chem. 269:27618-27624.

There is also a newsgroup specifically devoted to G protein coupled
receptors that you might want to look into. bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r

Good luck.
Rick Neubig
http://www.umich.edu/~rneubig

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 16 22:00:00 1995
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From: hlatim@HLSUN.RED-CROSS.ORG ("timothy hla")
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Subject: G-protein / receptor interaction
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Dear g-ologists:

I have perhaps a niave question.  What does the affinity of the 3rd loop of the 
G-protein-coupled receptors (determined by physical association of recombinant 
third loop fusion protein to native Galphas ) to a specific G protein alpha 
subunit mean in terms of productive signalling ?  

Thanks

Tim Hla

Timothy Hla, Ph.D.
Scientist II 
Department of Molecular Biology
Holland Laboratory, American Red Cross
15601 Crabbs Branch Way
Rockville, MD 20855, USA
ph: 301-738-0567
fx: 301-738-0465
e-mail: hlatim@hlsun.red-cross.org


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 16 22:00:00 1995
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From: Gert.Vriend@EMBL-HEIDELBERG.DE
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Subject: TM7 server update
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Dear seven helix bundle friends,

The TM7 server at EMBL got updated. The multiple sequence alignments
now contain many more than 700 sequences. Several sub-classes of GPCRs
have been aligned separately. All alignments got one numbering scheme.

The sequences of about 450 GPCRs were extracted from SWISS-PROT, and
are available from the TM7 server.

The sequence profiles used to search the databases and to make the 
alignments are only available from the FTP site.

A tentative alignment of a couple hundred easy to find G-alpha proteins
was added, as well as an alignment of 12 bacteriorhodopsin like
sequences.

If you want a special class of GPCRs to be added, feel free to ask me, it
is only a couple hours work to make one....

It would be nice if some of the experts out there would look at the
alignments, and tell me where our programs went wrong. Please send
comments to "VRIEND@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE", rather than to the server,
because the server is just a mail reading program that can only read the
syntax as described below. I will later send a summary of the corrections
around.

About 200 models of the seven helix area of GPCRs remained unaltered. These
models are of poor quality, but they are administratively correct, and
could serve well as start of your own modeling, or are nice for
quickly looking at a model. One of these days I will make 'better' models.

In the first year of this service we got 8109 request, and we managed to
send the requested file back in almost 90% of all cases. We have
problems with mail that comes in via fire-walls, so if your site is
fire-wall protected, you better use FTP instead of the mail server.
Also, about 15% of all requests does not have the correct format, and
can not be dealt with (dont put escape character at the end of server
request lines; try not to send your signature because we dont know
what to do with those; the requests for tuna fish, fat angus drives,
and a few more in this category also were not taken care of adequately
by the server...).

Please do not send more than 10 requests per day. Please do not request
more than one model per request. If you want them all, use FTP. Please
be patient, and complain to me only after you did not get a reply within
48 hours.

The rest of this mail consists of a legal blurr that unfortunately is 
required with services like these and some notes about how to get the 
data.

I suggest that those of you who are new users of this mail service send
the command:

GET HELP:GENERAL.HELP

to

"TM7@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE"



Copyright (C) 1993, 1994, 1995 G. Vriend

The TM7 program and data suit is a free data distribution 
system.  It is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, 
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY without even the implied warranty of 
merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose. The 
copyright holders and/or other parties provide the program 
"AS IS", without warranty of any kind, either expressed or 
implied. The entire risk as to the quality and performance 
of the service is with you. Should any program or data prove 
defective, you assume the cost of all necessary servicing, 
repair or correction.

The file server holds data related to G-protein coupled receptors 
that possess the seven helix transmembrane bundle motif. One can 
freely extract the data. It is allowed to modify and redistribute 
the data at a limited scale, provided the copyright notices are 
not removed. (All modifications must be documented and the 
modifier must be identified and take scientific responsibility 
for the modification). The data can freely be used, but it is 
neither allowed to sell the data, nor is it allowed to 
redistribute them directly or indirectly for commercial purposes.
Data and other files that are not produced by G.Vriend (as can
be recognized from the "Copyright (C) 1993, 1994, 1995 G. Vriend"
notice) can only be extracted for personal use. If you forget to
acknowledge me, fine, I dont care, but please give proper 
acknowledgments to the people that help me maintain this server.


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu Feb 16 22:00:00 1995
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From: Jonathan_A_Lee%notes@sb.com (Jonathan A Lee)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: CALCITONIN RECEPTORS
Date: 17 Feb 1995 10:26:50 -0800
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I would like to identify individuals that can help me obtain cDNAs encoding 
human calcitonin receptor (either or both splice variants) and stable cell 
lines expressing the same.

In addition, is there any new information concerning the splice variants of 
calcitonin receptors from any species?

Thanks.

Jonathan A. Lee, Ph.D.

Department of Macromolecular Science
Mail Code: UE0447d
SmithKline Phamaceuticals
709 Swedeland Road
King of Prussia, PA  19406
USA

phone:  610-270-7588
FAX:  610-270-4091
E Mail:  LEEJA%PHVAX.DNET@SB.COM


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sat Feb 18 22:00:00 1995
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From: fidlera@waltec.warc.cri.nz (Andrew Fidler)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Stem Cell Factor Antibodies
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Summary: Antibody search
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Does anyone out there know of a source of antibodies against a mammalian 
stem cell factor (SCF) (i.e. murine "steel")
Regards,
Andrew Fidler

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun Feb 19 22:00:00 1995
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From: mlevine@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU (MICHAEL A LEVINE)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
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Does anyone out there know of decent antibodies that can detect different 
forms of mammalian adenylyl cyclases that are normally expressed in 
plasma membranes?

Michael Levine, M.D.
Johns Hopkins/ Endocrine

mlevine@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu

410-955-7233 (voice)
410-955-0841 (fax)

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!GSBS.GS.UTH.TMC.EDU!dclark
From: dclark@GSBS.GS.UTH.TMC.EDU (Dick Clark)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: partial agonists
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RE Steven Seiler's questions:        

        Our group (Whaley et al Mol Pharm 45:481-489) has developed a model
that quite nicely describes beta receptor activation of AC over a 1000 fold
range of R levels. In this model the rate of activation of AC is equal to
kon x R* (where kon is the rate constant for activation of AC and R* is the
active conformer of R). In the context of this model the definition of a
partial agonist is the ratio of its kon x R* to that of a full agonist. It
should be noted that some pharmacologists still attempt to define partial
agonism by efficacy (Vmax) alone. This is incorrect, since we and others
have shown that a partial agonist looks like a full agonist if R levels are
sufficiently high.
        There is not yet resolution of whether partial agonists are simply
not as good at stabilizing the R* activated state of the receptor (the Monod
model), or whether they actually induce different, less efficient
conformations of R (the Koshland model). We favor the Monod  model as do
others in the field (eg. see Samama et al JBC 268:4625).
        For a more theoretical treatment of the differences between partial
and full agonists with regard to the important concept of "encounter time"
see Stickle and Barber Mol Pharm 40:276-288.
        With regard to the use of GTPase activity for the measurement of
partial agonism: this is of course a measure of koff, not kon, and there are
the notorious difficulties in measuring hormone/receptor activated GTPase in
membranes. The GTPase assays almost invariably requires pure components.


                                                                        Dick
Clark


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon Feb 20 22:00:00 1995
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From: gonyege@lldmpc.dnet.dupont.com (Gregory E. Gonye PhD)
Subject: A endocytosis poison for use in "live" binding assay
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Hello everyone,
I am attempting to develop a radioligand binding assay on "live" tissue. 
One major hurdle is endocytosis.  If the assay is done at 0C the binding
kinetics will be too slow, not to mention the state change in the membranes,
but if I run the assay at higher temps endocytosis will make the data
difficult to interpret.  Therefore I am searching for an endocytosis poison
with good penetrance in order to block endocytosis at RT.  Please help. 
Thanks.  G.

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue Feb 21 22:00:00 1995
Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re; endocytosis poison
Date: 22 Feb 1995 22:29:12 -0000
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Gregory E. Gonye (gonyege@llcmpc.dnet.dupont.com) asked for inhibitors of
endocytosis.

Several chemicals have been reported to block endocytosis of G-protein-coupled
receptors. Among those are concanavalin A, high sucrose in the medium and
agents that deplete the cells of endogenous ATP (like phenylarsinoxide).
A really specific poison is not available, however; endocytosis of
GPCRs is quite an unresolved issue nowadays.

Hope that helps,
--Cornelius.

--
/* Cornelius Krasel, Abt. Lohse, Genzentrum, D-82152 Martinsried, Germany  */
/* email: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de                 fax: +49 89 8578 3795  */
/* "Science is the game you play with God to find out what His rules are." */

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