From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu May 01 23:00:00 1997
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From: sbsdjl@leonis.nus.sg (ding jeak ling)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Protein modelling job vacancies
Date: 3 May 1997 02:03:42 GMT
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.........................................................................
 "Positions available -  for a period of 2 years"

(1) Research Fellow with PhD.
        Prerequisites include experience in computer aided molecular
modelling of macroproteins, ligand-binding and conformational studies.
Creative flair and ability to solve problems, as exemplified by a strong
publication track record are helpful.
        Salary: commensurate with experience, up to a maximum of US$47,000
per annum (inclusive of 13th month payment and variable bonuses).

(2) Research Assistant with BSc Hons. in Cell and Molecular Biology.  To
carry out genetic engineering experiments and research and development in
gene expression.  Knowledge in computational molecular biology will be an
advantage.
        Salary: commensurate with qualification and experience, up to
US25,000 per annum.
                (Current Exchange rate is US$1 = S$1.41)

Interested applicants should write/enquire and send CV to:
        JL Ding (PhD)
        Marine Biotechnology Laboratory
        School of Biological Sciences
        National University of Singapore
        Kent Ridge,
        Singapore 119260
Tel: 65-7722776         Fax: 65-7792486
E.mail:sbsdjl@leonis.nus.sg
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 04 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!nunet.neu.edu!r.deth
From: r.deth@nunet.neu.edu ("Richard Deth")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Solubilization and HPLC
Date: 5 May 1997 12:07:17 -0700
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1. Does anyone know of the successful application of HPLC for the separation 
and isolation of a G protein-coupled receptor? e.g. a paper in the literature 
or a personal knowledge?

2. Awhile ago there was a discussion about the selection of detergents for 
solubilization of GPCRs, however, I don't recall the consensus recommendation 
if there was one. Is there something better than NP-40??

Thanks in advance for the help!


r.deth@nunet.neu.edu

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 06 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!BIO.VU.NL!hind
From: hind@BIO.VU.NL (Hind van Tol-Steye)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Arachidonic acid
Date: 7 May 1997 01:06:20 -0700
Organization: Vrije Universiteit
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Is there anybody who has experience with handling arachidonic acid
(AA)for functional studies?
I want to add AA to cells and measure the electrophysiological response,
but I have difficulties to prepare proper solutions of AA. Some
solutions give raise to a response, whereas other solutions (prepared in
the same way, under nitrogen), tested on the same cell do not. Perhaps
there are problems with solubility, oxidation and/or sticking to glass
ware?

Any tips to make solutions of AA in a reproducible way?
Is there any difference in quality between AA from different companies?

-- 
Hind van Tol-Steye
Vrije Universiteit
De Boelelaan 1083
1081 HV Amsterdam

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sat May 10 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!CHEMPATH.UCT.AC.ZA!DAVID
From: DAVID@CHEMPATH.UCT.AC.ZA ("Dave")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Moderation
Date: 11 May 1997 22:24:12 -0700
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I agree that this group should be moderated.  I think that spam mail 
is just going to get more and more common, as there are now web sites 
that offer "Advertising that reaches tens of thousands of people"!  I 
recently discovered a way to stop spammer from getting your email 
address.  They normally get it from web sites where people must fill 
in some form or other and leave their email.  One trick is to add a 
tilde (~) character to the start of your email address.  The spammers 
use an automatic system to get emails, so they probably won't notice 
the tilde.  When they try and email that address, it won't work.
   If you own a web page, do the same kind of thing, but leave a 
message saying "remove tilde for actual address".  Unfortunately, 
somebody somewhere may already have your email address, but this 
trick might help a bit.

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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sat May 10 23:00:00 1997
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From: Frank Kolakowski <kolakowski@uthscsa.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Moderation Vote
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I am willing to moderate the contents of this news group.

We have a relatively small volume of messages overall. I believe 
that this makes the number of SPAM messages seem very large.

The effect is very noticable however. After every spam posting,
there is a marked increase of misdirected unsubscribe messages.

Please comment to this group. I will tally the responses in one week.

Frank Kolakowski

Postal Address
Dr. Lee F. (Frank) Kolakowski, Jr.
Department of Pharmacology
University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio
7703 Floyd Curl Drive
San Antonio, Texas 78284-7764

Telephone
210-567-4233
210-567-4303 (Fax)
210-567-4178 (Lab)

Email
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lfk@receptor.mgh.harvard.edu

World Wide Web
http://kolakowski.uthscsa.edu/
http://receptor.mgh.harvard.edu/GCRDBHOME.html

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sat May 10 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!UH.EDU!RABond
From: RABond@UH.EDU
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Date: 11 May 1997 16:03:15 -0700
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unsubscribe


Richard A. Bond, Ph.D.: Department of Pharmacological and Pharmaceutical
Sciences, University of Houston, 4800 Calhoun, Houston, Texas 77204-5515. 
E-mail: RABond@UH.edu  telephones: office: (713) 743-1210, lab: (713)
743-1219 fax: (713) 743-1229.  


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
Date: 12 May 1997 02:00:39 -0700
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(LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95)

This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
	--------
	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
archives.  You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as
described in item #1 below.  Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you
contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term.

Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass
this message on to your marketing or marketing communications
department or other appropriate group.  Please ask them to help
support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and
benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are
interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed.
This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!BLUE.INCM.U-NANCY.FR!maigret
From: maigret@BLUE.INCM.U-NANCY.FR
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation vote
Date: 12 May 1997 09:35:57 -0700
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OK for moderation

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 MAIGRET Bernard          
 Directeur de Recherche au CNRS
 Directeur de l'UA CNRS 510 "Interactions Moleculaires"
 Lab.Chimie Theorique      Universite Henri Poincare
 B.P. 239                  54506 Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy FRANCE
 tel: 33-3-83.91.25.28      fax: 33-3-83.91.25.30 
 e-mail: maigret@incm.u-nancy.fr
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!198.82.160.249!solaris.cc.vt.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!kwatra2.mc.duke.edu!user
From: edroush@acpub.duke.edu (Eric Roush)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: Moderation Vote
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:21:29 -0400
Organization: Glow-n-the-Dark Radiochemicals, Inc.
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In article <5l5kvn$7t2$1@cosmos.uthscsa.edu>, Frank Kolakowski
<kolakowski@uthscsa.edu> wrote:

> I am willing to moderate the contents of this news group.

More power to you; you've got my vote.

-- 
Eric Roush               When an eel
edroush@acpub.duke.edu   bites your heel,
also coache@aol.com      makes you squeal,
                         pain you feel,
                         that's a moray.

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU!pms
From: pms@RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation
Date: 12 May 1997 15:52:38 -0700
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I support moderation of the news group.
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.apfel.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!wpxx02!not-for-mail
From: krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: moderation
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 19:29:16 +0200
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Stanley Krystek (krystek@ALCOR.BMS.COM) wrote:
> I vote for a moderated group and Frank can have
> my support.

Me too. (BTW, is there an open news server which carries a decent
7tms feed? I seem to miss at least 50% of the postings -- I hope
this also includes 50% of the "make money fast" stuff :-).)

--Cornelius.

-- 
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/* "Science is the game we play with God to find out what His rules are."  */

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU!bjmarg
From: bjmarg@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU (Vinnie Terranova)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Moderation
Date: 12 May 1997 10:22:54 -0700
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Please, yes, let's moderate.  Thanks for the offer, Frank!

-Barry Margulies, Ph.D. (bjmarg@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu)
URL:  http://www.welch.jhu.edu/~bjmarg/homepage.html
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!SPINE.MED.UTORONTO.CA!milton
From: milton@SPINE.MED.UTORONTO.CA (Milton Charlton)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: Moderation Vote
Date: 12 May 1997 07:47:57 -0700
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Please moderate.
M. Charlton


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!BIOCELL.IRMKANT.RM.CNR.IT!7tm
From: 7tm@BIOCELL.IRMKANT.RM.CNR.IT (Transmembrane receptors)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: Moderation Vote
Date: 12 May 1997 08:05:19 -0700
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OK for moderation

7TM Group
Istituto Biologia Cellulare
Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche
I-00137 Roma Italy
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!ALCOR.BMS.COM!krystek
From: krystek@ALCOR.BMS.COM (Stanley Krystek)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation
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I vote for a moderated group and Frank can have
my support.

stan

 Stanley R. Krystek, Jr., Ph.D.      
 Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute 
 Department of Macromolecular Modeling
 P.O. Box 4000, Room H.3812, Princeton, N.J.  08543-4000
 (609) 252-4100  FAX: (609) 252-6030 
 INTERNET:  krystek@bms.com 




From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Sun May 11 23:00:00 1997
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From: j.a.t.dow@bio.gla.ac.uk (Julian Dow)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: moderation
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>I vote for a moderated group and Frank can have
>my support.
>

Me too. By the way, did I tell you about this great opportunity to earn
$1000's for no effort..?


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: nevek@teleport.com (Kim Neve)
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Subject: Re: moderation
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krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de (Cornelius Krasel) wrote:

>Stanley Krystek (krystek@ALCOR.BMS.COM) wrote:
>> I vote for a moderated group and Frank can have
>> my support.
>
>Me too. (BTW, is there an open news server which carries a decent
>7tms feed? I seem to miss at least 50% of the postings -- I hope
>this also includes 50% of the "make money fast" stuff :-).)
>

I also vote yes, and also would like to know abou an open news server,
since I also miss many of the postings.  For example, I never saw
Frank's original offer to moderate the group.

Kim Neve

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: chahrzad@VAX.GRC.NIA.NIH.GOV
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Subject: moderate
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vote for moderate
Thank you
Chahrzad Montrose

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: Frank Kolakowski <kolakowski@uthscsa.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Re: Moderation Vote (Moderation will be happening)
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7TMS_R Readers/Posters:

I have been swamped by email (>50 messages) regarding the moderation
issue. There has not been a single posting or email which does not 
want the news group to be moderated. I have begun to take the steps 
necessary to make 7tms_r a moderated newsgroup.

Dave Kristofferson has emailed me about the changes to the newsgroup's
charter necessary for moderation.

Specifically we must have a policy about what kinds of messages are 
acceptable. The following text is the policy from the plant signal 
transduction newsgroup:

Moderation Policy:  Mass-posted commercial messages, chain letters, and
similar postings not germane to plants or signal transduction will be
deleted without comment. Inappropriate messages posted in good faith will
be returned to the sender.  Messages not strictly within the charter but
likely to be of interest to many subscribers (e.g., messages dealing with
certain aspects of signal transduction in animal systems) will be
accepted.
Use of the newsgroup for commercial purposes is prohibited.

This looks good to me with a little bit of editing.
As soon as this is finished, it will take about 2-4 days to change the 
status of the group to a moderated group.

No more SPAM, subscribe, or unsubscribe messages.

Frank Kolakowski

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: obrien@pharm.med.upenn.edu (:-Peter)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation schmoderation
Date: 13 May 1997 19:04:46 GMT
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I vote for extremism.  Barring that, let's keep out the spam.

:-Peter  






From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: Fabien Campagne <campagne@incm.u-nancy.fr>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Change of Viseur prog. distribution policy
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:59:26 +0100
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I mailed several month ago a message to this newsgroup to describe
the Viseur program. At that time, this program was available only 
to non profit laboratories.
The Viseur program is now available to the indutrial world 
(at no or a few exceptions). The new distribution policy 
for the program is described at: 
http://www.lctn.u-nancy.fr/viseur/DistributionPolicy.html

For more information on the program itself, you may want to visit
the Viseur Home page:
http://www.lctn.u-nancy.fr/viseur/viseur.html

PS: I'm reading this newsgroup via the newsgroup interface
but would welcome its moderation.

Fabien Campagne -- campagne@incm.u-nancy.fr | Lab. de Chimie Theorique
phone: +33 (0)3 83 91 20 00  extension 3236 | Nancy, France.
           http://www.lctn.u-nancy.fr/viseur/FC.html

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: poda@VIOLET.INCM.U-NANCY.FR (Gennady PODA)
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Subject: A voice for moderation
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full support for the moderation of the newsgroup.



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Dr. Gennady PODA

Laboratoire de Chimie theorique (UA 510 du C.N.R.S.)
Universite Henri Poincare, Nancy-I
Faculte des Sciences - Domaine scientifique Victor Grignard
B.P. 239 - 54500 Vandoeuvre-les-Nancy Cedex France

Fax : + 33 (0)3.83.91.25.30   E-mail : poda@incm.u-nancy.fr
************************************************************


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!FERRE.SACLAY.CEA.FR!nicolas
From: nicolas@FERRE.SACLAY.CEA.FR (Nicolas Ancellin)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation
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OK for moderation


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU!khouamed
From: khouamed@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Khaled Houamed)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: MOLECULAR NEUROBIOLOGY POSTDOCS U. CHICAGO
Date: 13 May 1997 09:19:18 -0700
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<smaller>Postdoctoral Positions in Molecular Neurobiology

University of Chicago


Postdoctoral positions are available to: 

1) Perform structure / function studies on recombinant small
conductance calcium activated  potassium channels (SK channels) and,

2) Perform structure / function studies on recombinant G-protein
coupled receptors members of family C (metabotropic glutamate
receptors, calcium sensor, and GABA subB receptor).

Recent Ph.D. graduates in Physiology, Pharmacology, Biochemistry,
Neuroscience, or allied fields, with experience in cell physiology
(patch clamp, oocyte voltage clamp, or fura measurements), or molecular
biology techniques are invited to apply for these positions.  Please
send a current CV including a summary of relevant research experience
and names and addresses of three referees to Dr. K. Houamed at the
address below.


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Committees on Neurobiology and Cell Physiology

The University of Chicago Medical Center

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The University of Chicago is an Affirmative Action, Equal Opportunity
Employer.


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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
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From: ACMPAIVA@BIOFIS.EPM.BR ("Antonio C. M. Paiva")
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Subject: moderate
Date: 13 May 1997 07:56:27 -0700
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Vote for moderate

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 12 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!yorvic.york.ac.uk!pavel
From: pavel@yorvic.york.ac.uk (Pawel Herzyk)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderate
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full suport for moderation of this newsgroup


-- 
Dr Pawel Herzyk                                 pavel@yorvic.york.ac.uk
Department of Chemistry                         tel. (+44) 01904 432593
University of York                              fax. (+44) 01904 410519
Heslington, YORK, YO1 5DD, UK.      http://www.yorvic.york.ac.uk/~pavel

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!CHAGALL.GALAXY.IBPC.FR!cathy
From: cathy@CHAGALL.GALAXY.IBPC.FR (cathy ETCHEBEST)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Moderation
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OK for Moderation 
Thank you


Catherine ETCHEBEST
Laboratoire de Biochimie Theorique
I.B.P.C UPR9080
13 rue Pierre et Marie Curie
75005 Paris
Tel 01-43-25-26-09 poste 397
Fax 01-43-29-56-45
EMail:cathy@ibpc.fr


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!mail.nrgn.com!rbrodbeck
From: rbrodbeck@mail.nrgn.com ("Robbin Brodbeck")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation policy
Date: 14 May 1997 05:36:11 -0700
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With respect to the moderation policy suggested by Frank:

Moderation Policy:  Mass-posted commercial messages, chain letters, and
similar postings not germane to plants or signal transduction will be
deleted without comment. Inappropriate messages posted in good faith will
be returned to the sender.  Messages not strictly within the charter but
likely to be of interest to many subscribers (e.g., messages dealing with
certain aspects of signal transduction in animal systems) will be
accepted.
Use of the newsgroup for commercial purposes is prohibited.

Many people might agree that certain "commercial" postings with regard to
reagents/ software / kits, etc which are novel &/or upgraded, and are of
interest to much of the group, might be considered valuble, therefore even
though commercial in nature, should be freely transmitted.

We've only seen a minimal amount of this type of posting in the past, but I
think it would be an added bonus

sincerly,

a scientist who doesn't have much time to go out shopping for new science
toys.


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!LILLY.COM!SHARP_JOHN_D
From: SHARP_JOHN_D@LILLY.COM ("J.D.SHARP 317-276-4268 DROP 04")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: No Brainer
Date: 14 May 1997 11:22:01 -0700
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People,

I hate "modern" terms like "no brainer" however in this case it is
imminently applicable:  MODERATE THIS GROUP AND KICK AWAY THE FLUFF!

	More power to people like Frank who volunteers and Gert who
frequently pitches in! 

______________________________________________________________________
FOOT FOOT FOOT FOOT]                            John D. Sharp
O    O  F O  F   F                              Lilly Research 0434
OOT  O  O O  O   O                              Indianapolis, IN 46285
T    T  O T  O   O                              sharp_john_d@lilly.com
|    FOOT FOOT   T                              317-276-4268
______________________________________________________________________



From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
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From: Frank Kolakowski <kolakowski@uthscsa.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: Revised Charter for 7TMS_R Newsgroup/Mailing List
Date: 14 May 1997 16:11:45 GMT
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7TMS_R Readers/Posters:

I have revised the charter to add the moderation rules.
Several people have suggested that a complete ban on commercial postings
might be limiting the free exchange of information relevant to
the newsgroup. I have added language that will allow commercial
postings provided they are informational in content and relevant to our 
newsgroup's topic.

Please feel free to comment on the charter for a short while.
I will add/revise and send to BIONET on Friday.

Frank

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Status:                 Moderated

One line Description:   Research on G-protein coupled receptor systems

E-mail addresses: 7tms_r@net.bio.net
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Discussion leader:
                 
Lee F. Kolakowski, Jr., Ph.D.         Email: kolakowski@uthscsa.edu
Department of Pharmacology
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Charter:

The purpose of G-PROTEIN-COUPLED-RECEPTOR/bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
is to function as a forum for discussion for researchers involved in
the cloning, characterization and analysis of members of the
super-family of heptahelical signal transducing receptors which
interact with heterotrimeric G-proteins. Associated topics of
molecular pharmacology, protein structure/function, characterization
of orphan receptors, and other questions or discussions revolving
around these proteins are also germane.  The newsgroup will facilitate
exchange of information, protocols, ideas and function as a forum for
discussion.

Subscribers are welcome from universities or any academic institutions,
government agencies, medical institutions, and industrial or commercial
organizations.  Contributions within the functions outlined above are
encouraged.

Moderation Policy:  Mass-posted commercial messages, chain letters, and
similar postings not germane to G-protein coupled receptors or signal 
transduction will be deleted without comment. Inappropriate messages 
posted in good faith will be returned to the sender. Unprofessional 
messages of any kind will be deleted without comment. Messages not 
strictly within the charter but likely to be of interest to many 
subscribers (e.g., messages describing non G-protein mediated signaling) 
will be accepted. Messages of commercial content relevant to G-protein
coupled receptor systems will be allowed providing the details of the 
system and the relevance to the newsgroup are the focus of the messages.
Use of the newsgroup for commercial purposes is prohibited (except as
outlined above at the discretion of the moderator).

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!EMBL-HEIDELBERG.DE!Gert.Vriend
From: Gert.Vriend@EMBL-HEIDELBERG.DE
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation and commerce
Date: 14 May 1997 06:37:44 -0700
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The GPCRDB has space reserved for commercial messages. We made this
known to about 30 chemical firms who had the word GPCR somewhere in
their WWW pages. They all got offered free space on this server.
We got zero answers. I therefore suggest that we strickly ban all
commercial messages, and if the moderator considers them generally useful
he can tell them to hand it to us to be put on the GPCRDB.

Look at http://swift.embl-heidelberg.de/7tm/other/industry_adds.html
to see the still informationless industry page....

Gert Vriend

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!YALE.EDU!henrik.dohlman
From: henrik.dohlman@YALE.EDU (Henrik Dohlman)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation policy
Date: 14 May 1997 06:34:43 -0700
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I agree with Robbin that commercial postings can be useful, but they are
often disguised as some bench scientist passing along a tip about some new
product to his webmates.  Commercial postings should be clearly labeled as
such.  Another issue to consider is whether we should permit messages meant
only to publicly berate a colleague, such as that suffered by the hapless
Dr. Rao not long ago.  I'm all for free speech but I thought the postings
were hardly "germane".

Henrik


Robbin Brodbeck wrote:
>
>With respect to the moderation policy suggested by Frank:
>
>Moderation Policy:  Mass-posted commercial messages, chain letters, and
>similar postings not germane to plants or signal transduction will be
>deleted without comment. Inappropriate messages posted in good faith will
>be returned to the sender.  Messages not strictly within the charter but
>likely to be of interest to many subscribers (e.g., messages dealing with
>certain aspects of signal transduction in animal systems) will be
>accepted.
>Use of the newsgroup for commercial purposes is prohibited.
>
>Many people might agree that certain "commercial" postings with regard to
>reagents/ software / kits, etc which are novel &/or upgraded, and are of
>interest to much of the group, might be considered valuble, therefore even
>though commercial in nature, should be freely transmitted.
>
>We've only seen a minimal amount of this type of posting in the past, but I
>think it would be an added bonus
>
>sincerly,
>
>a scientist who doesn't have much time to go out shopping for new science
>toys.
>

Henrik G. Dohlman, PhD
Yale University School of Medicine
henrik.dohlman@yale.edu



From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 13 23:00:00 1997
Path: biosci!merck.de!Friedrich.Rippmann
From: Friedrich.Rippmann@merck.de (Friedrich Rippmann)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins.7tms_r
Subject: moderation
Date: 14 May 1997 06:04:00 -0700
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I vote for moderation. However, my feeling is that the guidelines should
not be too strict. Relevant commercial postings (innovations) should be
allowed. Job postings should be allowed as well, both from academic and
commercial institutions.

Just my opinion,
- Friedrich -
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From: ERIC <rmadrid1@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Research on wearable air purifier
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My name is Eric and I am doing research at UCLA on this
portable air purifier.  It is called the Air Supply.  My
studies have shown it is capable of reducing bacteria directed
towards a target plate by 90% or more.  When worn, this device
is useful in protecting people from viruses, bacteria and other
allergens. This can be very useful to those who  are immunocompromised It
relies on Corona Discharge Technology, which is similar to the effect a
lightning bolt has on it's environment when it strikes. We are in
the process of publishing our data. Also, can someone give me information on
the effects of negative ions as opposed to positive ions?

Thanks
For more information on the Air Supply, 

goto http://www.breathefree.com




From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Mon May 19 23:00:00 1997
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From: DAVID@CHEMPATH.UCT.AC.ZA ("Dave")
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Subject: Moderation & Agonist binding
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I was just interested as to when moderation was supposed to start, as 
all I have seen for the past week in this group is SPAM mail.  As a 
service to others, I have reported several of the spammers to their 
relevant postmasters.  However, its kind of like the "kill one, 1000 
more appear" scenario.

And now for some work:  Does anyone know what differences exist 
between agonist binding done at 4 C and 37 C?  As far as I know, most 
people do agonist binding at 4 C to avoid receptor activation and the 
associated structural/affinity changes.  Do you all agree/disagree 
with this reasoning?

Thanks

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I want to do immunocytochemistry of an integral membrane protein on
whole Drosophila embryos.  I am concerning about epitope masking with
aldehyde fixation and antigen extraction during the procedure.  Does
anyone have any experience?  What are the fixatives?  What about
fixative osmolarity?  Detergent or no detergent?

Please e-mail me at mjcann@med.cornell.edu

Martin Cann

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From: edroush@acpub.duke.edu (Eric Roush)
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In article <m0wU3mX-0005OmC@uctmail2.uct.ac.za>, DAVID@CHEMPATH.UCT.AC.ZA
("Dave") wrote:

> I was just interested as to when moderation was supposed to start, as 
> all I have seen for the past week in this group is SPAM mail.  As a 
> service to others, I have reported several of the spammers to their 
> relevant postmasters.  However, its kind of like the "kill one, 1000 
> more appear" scenario.
> 
> And now for some work:  Does anyone know what differences exist 
> between agonist binding done at 4 C and 37 C?  As far as I know, most 
> people do agonist binding at 4 C to avoid receptor activation and the 
> associated structural/affinity changes.  Do you all agree/disagree 
> with this reasoning?

Well, if you are examining binding in vivo, then 4 °C 
(or better yet, on ice at 0 °C) shuts down endocytosis,
ensuring that the surface receptor population remains constant
during the experiment.

-- 
Eric Roush               When an eel
edroush@acpub.duke.edu   bites your heel,
also coache@aol.com      makes you squeal,
                         pain you feel,
                         that's a moray.

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 20 23:00:00 1997
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Subject: Re: Moderation & Agonist binding
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At 10:16 PM 5/20/97 -0700, Dave wrote:
>
>And now for some work:  Does anyone know what differences exist 
>between agonist binding done at 4 C and 37 C?  As far as I know, most 
>people do agonist binding at 4 C to avoid receptor activation and the 
>associated structural/affinity changes.  Do you all agree/disagree 
>with this reasoning?
>
Because membrane lipids are essentially solid at 4oC, you have a very
different situation.  Temperature can affect density, affinity and rank
order of potency in ways that are not always predictable.  Lipophilic
ligands will often give you high nonspecific at 4oC.
Paul Ernsberger, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Medicine, Pharmacology and
Neuroscience
Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, OH 44106-4982 USA
E-mail: pre@po.cwru.edu
FAX: (216)368-4752


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From: pre@PO.CWRU.EDU ("Paul Ernsberger, Ph.D.")
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At 12:18 PM 5/21/97 -0700, Martin Cann wrote:
>I want to do immunocytochemistry of an integral membrane protein on
>whole Drosophila embryos.  I am concerning about epitope masking with
>aldehyde fixation and antigen extraction during the procedure.  Does
>anyone have any experience?  What are the fixatives?  What about
>fixative osmolarity?  Detergent or no detergent?
>
I am surprised to see this question from Cornell!  Ask Ginny Pickel or Terry
Milner in the Kips Bay building--they have a cookbook of fixation recipes
for integral membrane proteins.
Paul Ernsberger, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Medicine, Pharmacology and
Neuroscience
Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine, Cleveland, OH 44106-4982 USA
E-mail: pre@po.cwru.edu
FAX: (216)368-4752


From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Thu May 22 23:00:00 1997
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From: Rick Neubig <RNeubig@umich.edu>
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Subject: Re: Moderation & Agonist binding
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Dave,
I'd say that most studies are done at low temperatures to avoid receptor
or ligand degradation (esp for peptide ligands).

There are numerous studies of ligand binding to GPCR's at different
temperatures. Perry Molinoff started work on this type of study to
examine thermodynamics of agonist vs antagonist binding back in the
early 80's or so.  We published one study looking at alpha2AR-G protein
coupling at different temperatures:

Gantzos, R.D. and Neubig, R.R. Temperature effects on a2-adrenergic
receptor-Gi interactions. Biochem.Pharmacol. 37:2815-2821, 1988.

What you see will depend a lot on whether you are studying binding in
whole cells or membranes. In the former the low temperatures will
disrupt a lot of processes that don't occur in membranes such as
internalization and receptor downregulation. Did you have something
specific that you were wondering about in terms of effects?

Hope this helps.
Rick

Dave wrote:

> (snip)
>
> And now for some work:  Does anyone know what differences exist
> between agonist binding done at 4 C and 37 C?  As far as I know, most
> people do agonist binding at 4 C to avoid receptor activation and the
> associated structural/affinity changes.  Do you all agree/disagree
> with this reasoning?
>
> Thanks
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dave Myburgh
> Lab 227 Falmouth Bldg             E-mail:   david@chempath.uct.ac.za
> Dept. Chemical Pathology                   mybdav02@uctvms.uct.ac.za
> UCT Medical School                 Phone:  406-6359
> Observatory                          FAX:  448-8150
> 7925
> South Africa
> --------------------------------------------------------------------



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Department of Pharmacology         University of Michigan
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From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Tue May 27 23:00:00 1997
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Subject: ISIS and other database programs
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I am looking for information concerning large database management programs 
that can handle millions of chemical structures coupled with EC50 / efficacy 
data and high-throughput screening data for a number of different 
receptors. We are considering going with MDL's ISIS software package.

Are there any ISIS users out there who have strong views about this 
program or any competing products from other companies? 

As always, I will summarize any responses that I get and post them back 
to the newsgroup.

Yours

Tracy Spalding


tspaldin@moose.uvm.edu

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed May 28 23:00:00 1997
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On Wed, May 28, 1997 8:10 PM, Tracy A. Spalding (tspaldin@moose.uvm.edu)
wrote:

>I am looking for information concerning large database management programs
>that can handle millions of chemical structures coupled with EC50 / efficacy
>data and high-throughput screening data for a number of different
>receptors. We are considering going with MDL's ISIS software package.

>Are there any ISIS users out there who have strong views about this
>program or any competing products from other companies? 

My experience with MDL's ISIS software to query Oracle databases has been
quite favorable.  Their training was excellent and the program has drawing and
retreiving modules which allow for sub-structure searching and the rapid
generation of structure-activity relationship tables.  I find that its a fine
tool to retrieve chemical and biological data.  Of course you will also need
to select or develop a software package capable of rapidly estimating EC50 and
efficacy values for such a large number of compounds in the high-throughput
screening environment that also transfers these data into an Oracle database.
This should be an equally important consideration for a receptor
pharmacologist.  

Harvey L. Wiener, Ph.D.
Department of Neurochemistry
Neuroscience Drug Discovery
Bristol-Myers Squibb Co.
Wallingford, CT
Wiener#m#_Harvey_L#d#@msmail.bms.com

From owner-7tms_r@net.bio.net Wed May 28 23:00:00 1997
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From: ygzhou@PUBLIC.CQ.SC.CN (YuanGuo Zhou)
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Subject: looking for a protocol for steroid  receptor binding analysis
Date: 29 May 1997 17:06:52 -0700
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Hi,
I have some problems with the steroid receptors binding analysis with 
3H-dexamethasone. Does anybody have the protocol? I like to get  one.
Thanks
Response via e-mail please.

Rick Zhou 


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The Biomaterials Science Group
Department of Oral and Dental Science 
in co-operation with the Physics Department
University of Bristol
Lower Maudlin Street, Bristol, BS1 2LY, England

 

For the project

"Protein-Biomaterials-Interfaces Investigated with Atomic 
Force Microscopy"

we are looking for

a PhD Student

with a background in Physics or Materials Science or Chemistry or Biology
or Engineering

or a student of related areas.

We expect:
· EU citizenship (non-EU citizens can be considered if they
  provide funding which covers the difference between the 
  oversees fee and the home fee)
· Upper Second Class degree or better
· Enthusiasm for the work in the area of biomaterials interfaces
· Eagerness to explore new areas, initiative and result oriented work
· Starting date 1st October 1997
· Open, cooperative character for the work in an international team

We offer:
· Research at one of the leading British research universities in 
attractive surroundings
· Top departments
· PhD fees are paid
· Maintenance and travel grant (co-operation with a university in 
California possible)
· Applied scientific research on a high level
· Intensive supervision
· Work in international teams with an excellent working atmosphere
· Future oriented research area
· Premium (£ 2000) from industrial sponsor paid upon successful 
completion of PhD research programme

Closing date for applications 15th June 1997

Applications should be submitted to:

Dr. Klaus D. Jandt					
Senior Lecturer
Dental Materials Science and Biomaterials
University of Bristol					
Department of Oral and Dental Science			
Lower Maudlin Street					
Bristol, BS1 2LY, UK					
Phone:	++ 44 (0)117 9 28 44 18
Internet: K.Jandt@bris.ac.uk

