Evolution or Creation? You Decide :)

Richard M Kliman rkliman at runet.edu
Tue Apr 15 15:08:56 EST 1997

In article <01bc459e$082011c0$b64792cf at mycomputer>,
Joe Potter <joe.potter at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>	I took the words of Mr. Moran to be on the original topic that started all
>of this --- that Dr. Eldgrede has pointed out in his 1995 book that sex is
>a paradox from the "ultra-Darwinist" point of view. Your words seems to
>support that.
>	What is your position on Eldredge's claim that sex represents a problem
>for those like Dawkins who see game as simply the contest to leave as many
>copies of one's own genes?

I realize this is addressed to Joe, but may I butt in?  Is it *really* 
Dawkins' view that the "game" is to leave as many copies of ones genes?  
I find it difficult to believe that Dawkins, of all people, would resort 
to such a goal-oriented model of evolution.  Except in rare cases, the 
future of a gene depends on it's carrier - i.e., on the ability of 
individuals carrying it to survive and reproduce relative to those not 
carrying it.  I don't think Dawkins would say otherwise (though I 
obviously don't speak for Dawkins), and it seems to me that you are 
presenting a strawman argument.

And I still don't understand the fixation on Eldredge's opinions.  Do you 
want to discuss evolution of sex or a particular individual's views on 
what he perceives to be someone else's model of gene evolution?

Rich Kliman
Dept. of Biology
Radford University

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