I'm not surprised at the dog letting out a howl initially, nor about
his eventually relaxing with the restoration of an important
relationship. I suppose Janov would say the dog relaxed BECAUSE he let
out a howl. Surely you do not believe this.
re Lorenz in general: fascinating observations, but not always the best
interpretations; see T.C. Scheirla et al. (Danny Lehrman, Jay
Rosenblatt, Ethel Tobach)) for a somewhat different approach.
For every old lady who was relieved of a physical ailment after Primal
Screaming, there is no doubt at least one other who was not; and yet
another who was releived of a physical ailment WITHOUT Primal
Screaming. Snake oil salesman exploit favorable coincidences, ignore
A clock that has stopped completely will be EXACTLY right twice a day.
In <Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.990403214419.9579B-100000 at vtn1> Geneva Hagen
<ws222 at victoria.tc.ca> writes:
>>>On 19 Mar 1999, F. Frank LeFever wrote:
>>> Janov? After all these years?
>> Oh, for crying out loud!
>> Surely human neurology hasn't changed *that* much
> over the last 30 years?!
>> One of Primal's cutrate cousin therapies did little
> for me except allow me to access some childhood memories
> and learn to cry at the drop of a hat.
> I do know one woman who experienced remission of physical
> ailments after Primal therapy, and she remains a very
> vigorous senior citizen. But I saw other people
> training themselves to respond to real-time events
> by reliving old hurts and going into a grief state.
>> During one weekend retreat, our therapist was horrified
> to find that we had a real live psychotic in our midst.
> At loss as to how to deal with the situation, he asked
> the other participants to recall who, from their own past,
> this psychotic most reminded them of!
>> Janov did cite objectively measurable changes in his
> own post-Primal patients. But most convincing to me
> there is a grain of truth to Primal theory is
> an account by Konrad Lorenz in his book about dogs
> (Man's Best Friend, I think it was called). When
> Lorenz had to go away for a time, a dog left behind
> became a terrible behaviour problem. On his return,
> the dog acted very confused and suddenly dropped to
> its haunches and let out a great howl -- after which
> its behaviour returned to normal.