"Near Proof for Near-Death?"

Ian Goddard igoddard at erols.mom
Tue Dec 18 12:12:41 EST 2001

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, "John H." <John at faraway.com.au> wrote:

>One possible explanation might be the finding earlier this year that human
>brains have some sort of in built oxygen storage, perhaps this is what
>allows function at a very low level, not sufficient to show up on scans but
>enough to keep just enough cellular activity going to create memories???

  IAN: Interesting. Indeed, that's virtually indicated because
  it is the existence of oxygen that prevents sudden and massive
  damage resulting from hypoxia. Therefore, if the brains survived
  intact, it tends to follow that they weren't oxygen deprived, and
  moreover that they therefore were never brain dead. What's really
  amazing is that the media reports state that there was "no brain
  activity" in patients. However, I cannot find any such statements
  in the actual study. In fact, the criteria for "clinical death"
  is stated as such: "We defined clinical death as a period of
  unconsciousness caused by insufficient blood supply to the brain
  because of inadequate blood circulation, breathing, or both." 
  See the sections "procedures" and "patients" for this and more.

  Media reports lead us to believe that brain-activity measures
  were recorded by some means, but that is not the case. All that 
  the study did was determine that a patient had cardiac arrest,
  ie, their heart stopped, for some time during which they were 
  unconscious, or "clinically dead." So the media claims of "no 
  brain activity" are an extrapolation without direct evidence.

  And even if we assume the patients were brain dead for some 
  period, there is the problem of proving that the NDEs occurred
  at the same time that there was no brain activity. Yet all the 
  study did was ask people after they were resuscitated if they 
  remember any NDE-like events, which could have occurred at any
  time during their cardiac event. The study is seriously flawed
  relative to the extraordinary conclusions being derived from it.



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