"Jd" <JDay123 at BellSouth.com> wrote in message
news:3da5b741.13062400 at news1.lig.bellsouth.net...
> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab at lojban.org> wrote:
>> >>JDay123 at BellSouth.com (Jd) wrote:
> >>Men are sinners according to the LAW of God and need God's help in
> >>solving the equation, not the help of maddened wizards.
> >If I am worried about some equation involving sin, I turn to God. If
> >on the other hand it is a differential equation, the Bible won't help
> >in the least, and I haven't a prayer to solve it without knowing some
> >Science doesn't claim to deal with anything regarding "sin" which is
> >not subject to scientific analysis.
>> Right, with pure science. Law is supposed to protect you from the
> sins of others to a great degree. If you "sin" against your
> neighbor by stealing from him, by law you can be fined and/or
> imprisoned or both as a result of your behavior.
>> Your spiritual behavior makes me want to puke because like in the
> above "differential equation" example, you make a mockery out of
> things concerning the LAW of God.
The following timely post is a great example of why social stability
requires a complete understanding of law, religion, mathematics, and
You're pretty much in agreement with the concensus of more than 3 million
Signatories to the Fathers' Manifesto, Tracee. So permit us to point out to
you that your disagreement is with yourself rather than with the concensus.
Compare your one statement: "She had all the affairs but we have to pay off
her cars , day care and all medical exspenses. I think it is total bullshit"
to your other statement: "I also don't think that men should be allowed to
get women pregnant leave them with the baby and dodge support".
You must realize that you simply can't have it both ways. Either you
support a corrupted system that destroys families like yours with 100%
certainty, or you fully support Christianity. Trying to have both means
that you will get neither and the problem will be there forever.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracee" <weinzerl at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'kms'" <kms at kensingtonmicro.com>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: your web site
> although I must admitt I agree with a lot of what you are saying, some of
> seems a little one sided. The part about the woman having an affair,
> pregnant, and not telling her husband and having him raise it is totally
> wrong. That should not happen. My husband is not sure his first born or
> second is his due to all the affairs his ex had(besides they don't look
> anything like him and an awful lot like her "friend" at the time) and the
> law now reads even if you do a dna test and it comes back that they are
> his children, he still has to pay the 1315.00 a month in child support.
> had all the affairs but we have to pay off her cars , day care and all
> medical exspenses. I think it is total bullshit. But I also don't think
> men should be allowed to get women pregnant leave them with the baby and
> dodge support. I think the phrase "we don't need anymore feminism" that
> about most men pay more taxes, things like that are offensive to me. I
> really don't think you meant to come across that way. I do 100% agree that
> adultery should be punished to the fullest extent. Besides the fact we are
> teaching our kids that it is ok to tear apart someone we so called "love
> want to spend the rest of our lives with" before GOD as well, we are
> the chance of infecting our innocent, trusting spouse with aids or some
> other disease. That is not right. People knowingly take that chance and
> decide they are to ashamed or scared to tell their spouse that they
> so lets keep it quite and take a chance of infecting them. That is just as
> bad in my book as having sexual contact knowing you have aids or any other
> disease and that should be punished.
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: kms [mailto:kms at kensingtonmicro.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 7:35 PM
> To: weinzerl at sbcglobal.net; manifesto at christianparty.net> Subject: Re: your web site
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracee" <weinzerl at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <manifesto at christianparty.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 2:47 PM
> Subject: your web site
> > Is supposed to encourage boys with children to step up and be a "Man" or
> > slam woman? I vote slam women.
> > Keith & Tracee Weinzerl
>>> Which part exactly do you believe "slams women"?